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OBone 15.10.2020 19:52

Break quarantine to leave country
 
Hi all

Iíve looked at the guidelines but I couldnít see anything on this but does anyone know if you can break quarantine to leave the country?

Returned back from the UK Sunday and 4 days in but something pretty major has come up (family) and I need to get back ASAP.

Can I break quarantine if I leave the country? Iíd rather not sit out the next 6 days to do another 14 days in the UK racking up 20.

Papa Goose 15.10.2020 20:17

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I'm in France but may have to return to Switzerland for a few days before heading back to France. i asked the same question of the office in Kanton Zug and got this reply from them:

Good morning

Unfortunately, you will have to stay in quarantine for 10 days when you come to Switzerland.

If you only stay in Switzerland for 3 days, you must also spend the full 3 days in quarantine,
which means no shopping, no walking outside etc. Stay indoors for 3 days.

Please register using the form on the Kanton Zug website:

https://iform.zg.ch/iform/pub/AIO/st...e5ce17610b152#

Note in brackets at the address that you will only stay for 3 days in Switzerland.

If you wish to leave Switzerland, you must do so under strict hygiene conditions.
With masks and 1.5 m distance to other people. After that you are not allowed to enter Switzerland for the next 14 days.

We hope we could serve you with this information.

Kind regards,


The not being allowed back to Switzerland for 14 days won't be an issue for me, but maybe for others.

Hope thats helpful

Medea Fleecestealer 15.10.2020 20:19

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I don't see why not. I assume it's similar to the UK where so long as you go straight out of the country without stopping over it should be fine. We did a recent trip to the UK, 4 days there quarantining and then straight back out again.

Whether you'd need to quarantine again in the UK, having been in quarantine here since you got back, I don't know.

st2lemans 15.10.2020 20:20

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Very useful info, thanks!

Tom

OBone 15.10.2020 21:13

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Yes I will ask regarding the double quarantine as it makes no sense doing it twice.

I think I will call Kanton Zurich tomorrow and ask if I can leave. The UK is clear as long as you go direct then itís ok. I would get driven to the airport CH side so minimal contact.

fatmanfilms 15.10.2020 21:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OBone (Post 3227107)
Yes I will ask regarding the double quarantine as it makes no sense doing it twice.

I think I will call Kanton Zurich tomorrow and ask if I can leave. The UK is clear as long as you go direct then itís ok. I would get driven to the airport CH side so minimal contact.

UK are fine with public transport.

Landers 15.10.2020 21:25

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To me it would make no sense not doing it twice.

NotAllThere 15.10.2020 21:27

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Originally Posted by fatmanfilms (Post 3227112)
UK are fine with public transport.

Nah. They're terrible. Swiss are much better. :D

(Hey, I just misread the first time)

JackieH 15.10.2020 21:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Landers (Post 3227114)
To me it would make no sense not doing it twice.




Same for me and medic OH. This especially if you fly as you will be in contact with many others at airport and even more so, in plane- both ways.


I know several people with really serious family health problems who have had to accept they can't go and visit, due to quarantine both sides- and having nowhere to quarantine in UK anyhow- as you can't quarantine with family or friends.

OBone 15.10.2020 21:59

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In the UK you can quarantine with friends who can go about their daily business - which we all know makes no sense.

Landers 15.10.2020 22:22

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I really don't see how leaving your home in Switzerland while potentially infected and infectious to go to an airport to sit on a plane for two hours to transit through another airport to transit to another address complies with "Stay at home and do not leave for any reason".


I know the UK lets you cut "self-isolation" short but that also doesn't really make any sense.


Probably best to ask the Swiss health dept as you're supposed to contact them in any case.

JackieH 15.10.2020 22:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OBone (Post 3227130)
In the UK you can quarantine with friends who can go about their daily business - which we all know makes no sense.




That is news to me- link please. Thanks.

HickvonFrick 15.10.2020 22:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Landers (Post 3227148)
I really don't see how leaving your home in Switzerland while potentially infected and infectious to go to an airport to sit on a plane for two hours to transit through another airport to transit to another address complies with "Stay at home and do not leave for any reason".


I know the UK lets you cut "self-isolation" short but that also doesn't really make any sense.


Probably best to ask the Swiss health dept as you're supposed to contact them in any case.

Well if you stepped out of your front door into your car and drove to an airport in Germany for instance I'm not sure what business it is of CH. Their mandate is to control public health in Switzerland not abroad. Obviously they would be within their rights re: Swiss airports and Swiss public transport.

OBone 15.10.2020 22:44

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the airport at the weekend was totally dead and the plane only had about 20 passengers. really sad for the travel industry and economy

compare that with ikea in Spritenbach where no one is wearing masks, I would say air travel at the moment is very safe actually and low risk.

I know what you mean though, two different rules and none of the make a lot of sense.

HickvonFrick 15.10.2020 22:45

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Originally Posted by JackieH (Post 3227119)
Same for me and medic OH. This especially if you fly as you will be in contact with many others at airport and even more so, in plane- both ways.


I know several people with really serious family health problems who have had to accept they can't go and visit, due to quarantine both sides- and having nowhere to quarantine in UK anyhow- as you can't quarantine with family or friends.

Afaik you can quarantine at families house.

TonyClifton 15.10.2020 22:51

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Originally Posted by HickvonFrick (Post 3227165)
Well if you stepped out of your front door into your car and drove to an airport in Germany for instance I'm not sure what business it is of CH. Their mandate is to control public health in Switzerland not abroad. Obviously they would be within their rights re: Swiss airports and Swiss public transport.

This works however with the numbers also going up in Germany I expect this door will also be shut by next weekend.

Landers 15.10.2020 22:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HickvonFrick (Post 3227165)
Well if you stepped out of your front door into your car and drove ... I'm not sure what business it is of CH.


The rules are "stay at home for 10 days". Getting in your car and driving anywhere is contrary to that.

JackieH 15.10.2020 22:56

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Originally Posted by HickvonFrick (Post 3227167)
Afaik you can quarantine at families house.


Just checked and it seems that is indeed the case, And it is absolute and total nonsense. You can waltz in from red zone, having used public transport and plane, and 'self isolate' with family or friends - who then go on into the community to work, or school, or whatever. This is absolutely stupid in the extreme and totally irresponsible :msnsick:
https://youtu.be/CYmn76Y50Us

Landers 15.10.2020 23:34

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Originally Posted by JackieH (Post 3227174)
Just checked and it seems that is indeed the case, And it is absolute and total nonsense. You can waltz in from red zone, having used public transport and plane, and 'self isolate' with family or friends - who then go on into the community to work, or school, or whatever. This is absolutely stupid in the extreme and totally irresponsible :msnsick:
https://youtu.be/CYmn76Y50Us




Not so much "with" but within the same house. The idea being one is kept seperate from other members of the house. Maybe if your family owns a farmhouse with separate guest accommodation...


Much like the quality control in the company I used to work for, the idea is not for 100% control but overall sufficient to make things not too bad, and in terms of coronavirus transmission, it doesn't really seem to be working. Governments have to weigh up other social issues and "saving lives" is not the priority that many people think it should be.

Landers 15.10.2020 23:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyClifton (Post 3227171)
This works however with the numbers also going up in Germany I expect this door will also be shut by next weekend.


But according to the OP's thinking if he can leave Switzerland while under Swiss quarantine he surely could leave Germany while under German quarantine too


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