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Old 26.03.2021, 09:34
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Travelling to the UK - Post 29th March

I finally found the list of acceptable reasons to travel from the UK:

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What are the 'reasonable excuses' needed to leave the UK from March 29?
The following 14 reasons you would need to leave the UK are by no means exhaustive and some ask for extra requirements to be met, so seek further guidance if you're unsure.

However, the following list does provide an overview of "reasonable excuses" you would need to travel out of the UK.
  1. To travel to any destination in the common travel area - the UK, Ireland, the Isle of Man and Channel Islands (unless that destination is not final destination).
  2. For the purposes of work if it is not reasonably possible to work from a location within the UK.
  3. To provide voluntary or charitable services where it is not reasonably possible for those services to be provided from a location within the UK.
  4. If you're enrolled on a course of study at an institution outside the UK on or after the laws come into force. Or in you're at at an education institution inside the UK but need to travel EITHER to satisfy one or more of that course's requirements, OR to return home after March 29 but before April 29 2021 (i.e. the Easter Holiday) for the purposes of a vacation.
  5. If you're an elite sportsperson or coach of an elite sportsperson, or (in the case of an elite sportsperson who is under the age of 18), a parent of the elite sportsperson and it's reasonably necessary to leave the UK for the purposes of training or competition.
  6. If it's necessary to fulfil a legal obligation or to participate in legal proceedings.
  7. To undertake the purchase, sale, letting or rental of a residential property (further rules apply).
  8. If it is reasonably necessary to seek medical assistance, to attend a clinical appointment, or to avoid illness, injury or to escape a risk of harm. Or to attend the birth of a child or to visit a person receiving treatment in a hospital or staying in a hospice or care home, or to accompany them to a medical appointment (further rules apply).
  9. To provide care and assistance to a vulnerable person, to provide emergency assistance to any person, to visit a person you reasonably believe is dying, or to attend a funeral (further rules apply).
  10. To attend a wedding or a civil partnership ceremony where you or a close family member is the person getting married AND one or both of the persons getting married or becoming civil partners live outside the United Kingdom.
  11. For arranging access and contact between parents and a child where the child does not live in the same country to either one or both parents. Or for contact arrangements between siblings who do not live in the same country (further rules apply). This also includes for those adopting children (including their household) to arrange to meet a child or children who may be placed with them.
  12. To vote in an election or a referendum being held outside the UK where it is not possible to vote in the United Kingdom.
  13. If you're only in the United Kingdom on a temporary basis and not resident in the UK.
  14. If you're a child or dependent of a person who has a reasonable excuse to travel outside the UK and it is not possible for alternative arrangements to be made for care.
The one in red seems like it may allow British citizens resident in CH to travel to the UK and back; but not sure about the 10-day UK "isolation" requirement...
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Old 26.03.2021, 10:04
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Re: Travelling to the UK - Post 29th March

Yes you can go and come back, but you have to do the U.K. quarantine and testing package.
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Old 26.03.2021, 10:21
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Yes you can go and come back, but you have to do the U.K. quarantine and testing package.
Can you stay less than 10 days though?

I.E. I fly our Saturday morning, and back Sunday night... with some careful timing, it may even be possible to get a test on Friday that covers both the flight out and the flight back...

EDIT: Looks like the BAG has removed the UK from the high risk countries:
https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/en/home...html#858610174
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Can you stay less than 10 days though?

I.E. I fly our Saturday morning, and back Sunday night... with some careful timing, it may even be possible to get a test on Friday that covers both the flight out and the flight back...

EDIT: Looks like the BAG has removed the UK from the high risk countries:
https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/en/home...html#858610174
Yes, of course, so long as you go straight to your destination, stay there and then go straight back to the airport.
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Old 26.03.2021, 10:38
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Re: Travelling to the UK - Post 29th March

Yes you can stay less than 10 days. What I haven't figured out is what they do when they don't receive your day 8 test
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Old 26.03.2021, 10:42
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Yes you can stay less than 10 days. What I haven't figured out is what they do when they don't receive your day 8 test
I think you are right!!

From here:
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavi...ational-travel
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Travelling abroad during stay at home restrictions
Whilst the stay at home restrictions are in place, you are only allowed to leave home in order to travel abroad if you have a reasonable excuse.

It is illegal to leave home without a reasonable excuse. Travel abroad for holidays is not permitted.

The stay at home restrictions end on 29 March 2021. They are due to be replaced by stay in UK restrictions. From 29 March it will remain unlawful to leave the UK unless you have a permitted reason
The second link, with permitted excuses is here:
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/national...can-leave-home
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A ‘reasonable excuse’ includes:

Work
You can only leave home for work purposes where it is unreasonable for you to do your job from home. This includes, but is not limited to, people who work within critical national infrastructure, construction or manufacturing that require in-person attendance
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The part I'm curious about is in red... does that mean you don't need to stay at home anymore? Or maybe more importantly - do you still need to book the COVID testing package?
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Yes you can stay less than 10 days. What I haven't figured out is what they do when they don't receive your day 8 test
I assume you'd show/send them a copy of your travel document if they query it.

https://assets.publishing.service.go...march-2021.pdf
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Old 26.03.2021, 10:57
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I think you are right!!

From here:
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavi...ational-travel


The second link, with permitted excuses is here:
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/national...can-leave-home


The part I'm curious about is in red... does that mean you don't need to stay at home anymore? Or maybe more importantly - do you still need to book the COVID testing package?
Thatís talking about people living in the U.K. .... the stay at home lockdown is coming to an end. Nothing to do with quarantine and testing which is unchanged.
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Re: Travelling to the UK - Post 29th March

There's no problem any more getting back to Switzerland from the UK. But getting into the UK, even as a UK citizen, is still a pain; PCR testing and quarantine in the UK are still required.

So no "just popping over for a visit" yet.
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Can you stay less than 10 days though?

I.E. I fly our Saturday morning, and back Sunday night... with some careful timing, it may even be possible to get a test on Friday that covers both the flight out and the flight back...

EDIT: Looks like the BAG has removed the UK from the high risk countries:
https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/en/home...html#858610174
Yes no problem, I have this in writing from test & trace.
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Yes no problem, I have this in writing from test & trace.
Do you have to inform them?
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Re: Travelling to the UK - Post 29th March

On tenderhooks - so perhaps we will be able to be with daughters and grandchildren at the end of May, as planned, for our 50th WA. All fingers crossed. We will be vaccinated by then (OH having second dose as we speak) and my 1st next week- SILs have had their, and daughters soon. Pheeew. But we will stay at least 3 weeks.
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On tenderhooks - so perhaps we will be able to be with daughters and grandchildren at the end of May, as planned, for our 50th WA. All fingers crossed. We will be vaccinated by then (OH having second dose as we speak) and my 1st next week- SILs have had their, and daughters soon. Pheeew. But we will stay at least 3 weeks.
I hope so... but I'm not confident that the UK will remove the quarantine and testing anytime soon
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Yes no problem, I have this in writing from test & trace.
Would you be willing to share how you got that? Even by PM...

Would love to have a printout in my back pocket if/when I travel!
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Re: Travelling to the UK - Post 29th March

See how it goes- we have a place to quarantine there, and friends who can bring stuff in, and plenty of delivery services - and the cost of tests is meh, but irrelevant. Come what may (well perhaps not may) we will be over by end of June. Not seen them for over a year- so whatever it takes.
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Yes you can stay less than 10 days. What I haven't figured out is what they do when they don't receive your day 8 test
Nothing, they possibly won't be surprised if they did not get the 2nd day test earlier
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Would you be willing to share how you got that? Even by PM...

Would love to have a printout in my back pocket if/when I travel!
I emailed info@email.enquiries.test-and-trace.nhs.uk

This is what they wrote, name changed

Dear FMF,


Thank you for your enquiry to NHS Trace Feedback.

You can enter and leave the UK from different airports on the same day.

If youíre travelling to England for less than 10 days, you will need to quarantine for the whole of your stay. You must travel directly to your place of quarantine when you arrive in England and directly from your place of quarantine to the port or airport when you leave.

You should follow safer travel guidance and avoid public transport if possible.
You will still be required to book and pay for a travel test package, which will include COVID-19 tests to be taken on or before day 2 and on or after day 8 of your quarantine, this costs £210.

You must take a COVID-19 test on or before day 2 for variant surveillance and a test on or after day 8 to check that you do not have COVID-19. As such private tests are not allowable as they are not part of the NHS Test and Trace program.

There are no exemptions if you are staying in England fewer than 10 days. However, there is no penalty for not completing the day 8 test if you have already departed from the UK.

If your test shows that you have a variant of coronavirus known as a Ďvariant of concerní you will get a further call and your contacts will be asked to be tested.

Please use the following link to access the bookings portal for your travel test package: https://quarantinehotelbookings.ctmportal.co.uk/

I hope that this gives you some clarity to your situation.



Kind regards

Aaron Watkins
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I hope so... but I'm not confident that the UK will remove the quarantine and testing anytime soon
Me neither. Especially with the way things are here at the moment.

We have no plans to go there before the summer as I really don’t think it will be feasible before then.
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Me neither. Especially with the way things are here at the moment.

We have no plans to go there before the summer as I really donít think it will be feasible before then.
A review into international travel is due to conclude and report around April 12th, this should set out the approach going forward. I'd expect a traffic light type system based on individual country risk/infection, status of vaccination etc.

Its a pain at the moment but the UK government are doing everything possible (sort of an outright ban) to dissuade travel.
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Me neither. Especially with the way things are here at the moment.

We have no plans to go there before the summer as I really don’t think it will be feasible before then.
See how it goes- we will abide by the rules and its great to know all the people we will want to see, apart from grandchildren, will have had 2 doses of vax.

If you need a comfortable pad to isolate, 2 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms with all od cons, in a lovely small town- just ask.

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