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Old 09.06.2021, 19:47
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Re: Holidays abroad during Covid

I want to go to by Italy soon How can I get a PCR? and how will I be able to get back home to Switzerland?
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Old 09.06.2021, 20:10
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and how will I be able to get back home to Switzerland?
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I want to go to by Italy soon How can I get a PCR? and how will I be able to get back home to Switzerland?
I went to Italy last weekend: no PCR. I went in my car and came home the same way. Not sure what you really want to know. Maybe you should read up a bit on the regulations and come back with a specific question if you don't understand the rules.
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Old 09.06.2021, 20:57
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I went to Italy last weekend: no PCR. I went in my car and came home the same way.
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Travellers are still required to produce on arrival the certificate for a negative molecular or antigen swab test, taken in the 48 hours prior to arrival in Italy.
Doesn't mean they'll ask you for it but if they do then you need to produce it at the border.

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Doesn't mean they'll ask you for it but if they do then you need to produce it at the border.

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Unless you are in transit (or the 24 hour rule for people that live near the border). Then you just need the travel certificate.
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Re: Holidays abroad during Covid

On a related note, if I am reading the current Swiss rules correctly, if an unvaccinated American tourist buys a ticket from the US to Europe that transits through CH, he/she will be denied boarding in the US by the airline (even with a Neg PCR test), as current CH rules do not allow this.

PS - In fact, I think ALL American tourists coming to Europe are required to have proof of vaccinations.

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It’s the same form. Just put your Spanish address!

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Old 10.06.2021, 14:15
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Re: Holidays abroad during Covid

On the subject of Italy again, if someone is staying more than 48 hours, they need, according to the blurb:

Travellers are still required to produce on arrival the certificate for a negative molecular or antigen swab test, taken in the 48 hours prior to arrival in Italy.

As every website seems to use different terminology, does any one knwo the other names used for these two tests and is there a massive difference in price and availability?

I'm thinking that when schools break up for the summer, demand for certificated negative tests is going to easily outstrip supply so it would be prudent to book early.
A PCR apiece test could get quite expensive for a family.
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Re: Holidays abroad during Covid

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On the subject of Italy again, if someone is staying more than 48 hours, they need, according to the blurb:

Travellers are still required to produce on arrival the certificate for a negative molecular or antigen swab test, taken in the 48 hours prior to arrival in Italy.

As every website seems to use different terminology, does any one knwo the other names used for these two tests and is there a massive difference in price and availability?

I'm thinking that when schools break up for the summer, demand for certificated negative tests is going to easily outstrip supply so it would be prudent to book early.
A PCR apiece test could get quite expensive for a family.
Have a look at this link: COVID Test Types

In basic terms: molecular is the PCR Test and antigen is the so-called Schnelltest. The Schnelltest is much cheaper than the PCR and the results are typically available sooner. The price difference can be 5X or more.
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Old 17.06.2021, 05:23
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Re: Holidays abroad during Covid

The NYT reported that 1 in 5 unvaccinated Canadians would lie in order to travel. I wonder what that means for the ridiculous paper "proof of vaccination" that US travelers have? Wait until one of these jerks infects an entire European town. Ishgl, anyone?
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Old 17.06.2021, 09:07
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On the subject of Italy again, if someone is staying more than 48 hours, they need, according to the blurb:

Travellers are still required to produce on arrival the certificate for a negative molecular or antigen swab test, taken in the 48 hours prior to arrival in Italy.

As every website seems to use different terminology, does any one knwo the other names used for these two tests and is there a massive difference in price and availability?

I'm thinking that when schools break up for the summer, demand for certificated negative tests is going to easily outstrip supply so it would be prudent to book early.
A PCR apiece test could get quite expensive for a family.
Italy is now dead simple. I assume you're going by car as we did to Venice last weekend. You are not checked and at no point over the weekend were we checked. But we had the official Swiss government-funded antigen tests done within 48 hours of arriving there and got the free certificate with that.

Venice was excellent, full mainly of vacationing Italians and Pfingstferien-loving Germans. Piazza san Marco is pretty empty, night and day; restaurants are all open as are hotels, mask obligation is still in play but not enforced. "This is Italy!"

Go! Enjoy your life.
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Old 10.07.2021, 23:15
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Re: Holidays abroad during Covid

Personal update here

I flew home to i Zürich from Alicante today with Swiss.

For some reason Swiss decided that electronic or print at home boarding passes were not valid so everybody had to queue at the check-in desk. I'm not sure how that squares with unncessary contact. Anyway it was rather a messy affair as there wasn't space for an orderly queue or social distancing as people were standing far too close.

I first thought the reason might be so the airline could check vaccination certificates or corona tests or something. But the guy at the desk asked "do you have a certificate?", "yes?", "OK, here is your boarding card".

On arrival in Zürich nobody checked any paperwork.
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Old 27.07.2021, 21:11
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Re: Holidays abroad during Covid

Another personal update.

I just came back from NL by train.

Germany has recently upgraded NL to a higher risk category and on Dutch TV there was a lot of reporting about German tourists having trouble going home. It all sounded very dire and tragic.

So I was a bit apprehensive about my return trip.

On the train too, as we approached the border there were multiple long announcements in different languages explaining all the paperwork you needed (guess it would have been a bit late at this point for those who hadn't checked beforehand) and one announcement even made veiled threats about people being turned back..

The train was virtually empty, but I don't know if that was due to the recent announcement or just a general COVID thing.

It actually turned out nobody checked at all.

Crossing from DE into CH no checks either.
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Old 04.08.2021, 08:10
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Re: Holidays abroad during Covid

BAG announced that travellers entering Switzerland without being vaccinated should be tested. „Should“ Hmmmm

https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/en/home...2-08-2021.html

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Re: Holidays abroad during Covid

Checked bags in a Zurich airport at midday (took under 10 minutes) for a flight tomorrow early to Greece.

Offered to show my Covid pass on my phone, but was told „not necessary as it will be checked in Greece“.

So if I turn up in Greece without it and Personal Locator Form will they send me back??
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Re: Holidays abroad during Covid

We drove back from PT a week ago; first night in Basque Country; onward Sunday via Bordeaux (a stau nightmare, so we took the Graves wine road--delightful!). There were no checks at the PT/ES border (but it's been that way for a while), no checks ES/FR, no checks FR/DE, no checks DE/AT. Seems like there's a lot of hand-wringing but no enforcement.
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On a related note, if I am reading the current Swiss rules correctly, if an unvaccinated American tourist buys a ticket from the US to Europe that transits through CH, he/she will be denied boarding in the US by the airline (even with a Neg PCR test), as current CH rules do not allow this.

PS - In fact, I think ALL American tourists coming to Europe are required to have proof of vaccinations.

They are supposed to have proof of vaccination. My children came to visit in August. My son was never asked to show proof of vaccination until he was checking in for his flight back home. My daughter was asked for proof of vaccination at the departing airport, and again at customs in Zurich.

They both had to fill out the online registration which asked for vaccination status.
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Old 30.08.2021, 17:23
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So if I turn up in Greece without it and Personal Locator Form will they send me back??
I guess they will make you take a test there on arrival.

Which you would probably have to pay for.

If they bother to check at all that is.

The personal locator form is something you can probably fill in on arrival, connected to the airport wifi. I don't know about Greece but I've done this in Spain.
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Checked bags in a Zurich airport at midday (took under 10 minutes) for a flight tomorrow early to Greece.

Offered to show my Covid pass on my phone, but was told „not necessary as it will be checked in Greece“.

So if I turn up in Greece without it and Personal Locator Form will they send me back??
The legal rule is:

Your final destination country is responsible to check PLF.

The fact that random check-in staff at random airports in random countries ask you to show PLF is completely illegal. They have no authority to do that.
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Checked bags in a Zurich airport at midday (took under 10 minutes) for a flight tomorrow early to Greece.
Can you please share your experience afterwards? We are going to Greece in autumn and I already got lost in all this forms, codes, tests. My daughter will turn 12 during the trip which makes it even more complicated. Thanks.
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Re: Holidays abroad during Covid

Flying from Zurich to Heraklion (Crete Greece) Edelweiss/ Swiss
August 31 - September 15


In preparation, I completed the Greece PLF (Personal Locator Form). This was online some weeks before the trip and ends up as a PDF form with QR code on my phone - 1 Greek PLF for partners and family.

Swiss sent an email asking for online confirmation of Covid Pass and PLF 5 days before departure. I completed the form and sent scans. But the form was rejected as the "flight is not with Swiss or Lufthansa". I asked them why they sent the email (I booked via Swiss to use up a voucher) - there was no reply of course.

Swiss sent the same email again 5 days before leaving Crete. I ignored it.

At check-in at Zurich, I asked about the Covid App and was told that "it would be dealt with in Greece".

At Heraklion, there were 3 policemen "checking" the PLFs on entry to the terminal. All they wanted to see was if people had one, paper or on phones, they were not checked or scanned in any way. Covid Pass was never asked for. 4 people were selected for a spot check and could be seen having long buds being shoved up their noses.

The return trip was slightly more complicated in that the Swiss PLF requires seat numbers and one for each person. The PLF was requested by Swiss by email 5 days before the return trip. Unless you have paid extra for your seat you cannot know this until you have checked-in online available only 23 hours before departure.

On-line check-in does not produce a boarding pass for the return trip but a document that states "This is not a Boarding Pass".

The Swiss PLF is only available in the body of the email and each traveller needs one.

At check-in in Heraklion everyone was asked for their Swiss PLF, which was just quickly glanced at.

There were a few who had not checked-in online or had no internet and were desperately trying to download and fill in the details on their phones at the side of the check-in counter.

On arrival back at Zurich there were no checks whatsoever. Greece is in Schengen, so there is no passport control either.

The plane was about 60% full in both directions allowing most couples to use two seats and have the third empty.

Masks are required from entering the terminal to leaving at the other end. Though they can be removed to eat and drink, which is absurd. The Greeks generally take a relaxed attitude to masks. Some places the waiters wore them on their chins and always with their noses out. Supermarkets, though take masks seriously and I saw people ejected for being without.

Hope this helps
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