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22.04.2021, 08:31
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| | Re: Holidays abroad during Covid | Quote: | |  | | | We lived in Dubai (and other parts of the UAE). I would never go there again. | | | | | Yup. Everyone who goes to Dubai for a holiday and contributes money to that soulless husk of a place sells a small part of their own soul along with it.
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22.04.2021, 08:45
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| | Re: Holidays abroad during Covid | Quote: | |  | | | If you are conforming to local customs and come with serious cash, what can go wrong? I mean as a tourist..? | | | | | Not much as a tourist. If you happen to offend an Emirati, he can denounce you. Jail first, questions later. There are plenty of stories of tourists who've gotten in trouble, but the real danger lies in doing business there. I made friends with the Frenchman who escaped and then tried to get Latifa out...he has stories to tell, as do we. One of our engineers was arrested at the airport when he flew in to work for us--their very sensitive equipment sensed an invisible amount of weed in the pocket of a jacket he had borrowed. Took us weeks to get him out of jail, and he was deported. As a tourist, most peeps get in trouble for prescription meds they don't realise are on the no-no list.
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22.04.2021, 08:51
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| | Re: Holidays abroad during Covid | Quote: | |  | | | Not much as a tourist. If you happen to offend an Emirati, he can denounce you. Jail first, questions later. There are plenty of stories of tourists who've gotten in trouble, but the real danger lies in doing business there. I made friends with the Frenchman who escaped and then tried to get Latifa out...he has stories to tell, as do we. One of our engineers was arrested at the airport when he flew in to work for us--their very sensitive equipment sensed an invisible amount of weed in the pocket of a jacket he had borrowed. Took us weeks to get him out of jail, and he was deported. As a tourist, most peeps get in trouble for prescription meds they don't realise are on the no-no list. | | | | | I once read of someone who got into trouple because they had a sandwich with a poppyseed roll!
(poppyseeds count as heroin) https://gulfnews.com/uae/crime/man-i...sion-1.1673668 https://aroundtheworldtravels.co.uk/...ed-substances/
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22.04.2021, 08:53
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| | Re: Holidays abroad during Covid
Dubai would be pretty near the bottom of my list of potential holiday destinations, I’d rather go nowhere than go there.
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22.04.2021, 08:56
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Yes, I was going to cite that one too, but I couldn't find a link. Their equipment is very, very sensitive. At the private jet company we used, the police had stationed a guard who watched your every move.
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22.04.2021, 19:51
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| | Re: Holidays abroad during Covid | Quote: | |  | | | Dubai would be pretty near the bottom of my list of potential holiday destinations, I’d rather go nowhere than go there. | | | | | Well, frankly I wasn't thinking of visiting it right now, but I know people who visited it and thought it was interesting. It's a different world. Maybe some other time, who knows.
As I'm not into waiting to see what sort of restrictions pop up again and not yet vaccinated, we'll probably spend spring holiday here. Plenty to do in CH too.
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22.04.2021, 20:32
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| | Re: Holidays abroad during Covid | Quote: | |  | | | Well, frankly I wasn't thinking of visiting it right now, but I know people who visited it and thought it was interesting. It's a different world. | | | | | Oh indeed it is...filled with slavery, corruption, cruelty, hypocrisy, and $200,000 Birkin bags.
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22.04.2021, 20:55
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| | Re: Holidays abroad during Covid | Quote: | |  | | | Well, frankly I wasn't thinking of visiting it right now, but I know people who visited it and thought it was interesting. It's a different world. Maybe some other time, who knows.
As I'm not into waiting to see what sort of restrictions pop up again and not yet vaccinated, we'll probably spend spring holiday here. Plenty to do in CH too. | | | | | It's not for everyone. We did a stopover there on New Year's a while back. It's a spectacle but we didn't fall in love with it like some people do. We don't plan to go back, Covid or no Covid.
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22.04.2021, 21:02
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| | Re: Holidays abroad during Covid | Quote: | |  | | | Oh indeed it is...filled with slavery, corruption, cruelty, hypocrisy, and $200,000 Birkin bags. | | | | | And if you watch the uncensored version of "Blowup" you can see Jane Birken naked!
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22.04.2021, 21:04
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| | Re: Holidays abroad during Covid | Quote: | |  | | | I guess the contemporary term is cancelling them. Not a boycott, cancelling them  | | | | | | Quote: | |  | | | Cancel culture?  | | | | | No. Cancel culture is when a lot of people jump on someone (often via social media), normally for making a mistake that the woke community don't like and they lose their jobs.
Not going to Dubai on holiday because you disagree with the ruler kidnapping and locking up his daughters is boycotting.
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22.04.2021, 23:38
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| | Re: Holidays abroad during Covid | Quote: | |  | | | Not going to Dubai on holiday because you disagree with the ruler kidnapping and locking up his daughters is boycotting. | | | | | And the boycotters secretly hope the crazy ruler will lose his job?
I'm kidding. You seem very upset for some reason and I'll just leave it there. My comment was just tongue in cheek, sorry if it triggered you. Now that I was educated I shall know better than joking on EF next time... 
Btw, if you lost your job over some silly comment I guess your sensitivity is understandable. | Quote: | |  | | | It's not for everyone. We did a stopover there on New Year's a while back. It's a spectacle but we didn't fall in love with it like some people do. We don't plan to go back, Covid or no Covid. | | | | | I'm sure it's not for everyone and it isn't supposed to be.....as they say, each to their own. But it's interesting how divided the impressions are. Thanks for sharing.
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23.04.2021, 06:37
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| | Re: Holidays abroad during Covid | Quote: | |  | | | And the boycotters secretly hope the crazy ruler will lose his job? 
I'm kidding. You seem very upset for some reason and I'll just leave it there. My comment was just tongue in cheek, sorry if it triggered you. Now that I was educated I shall know better than joking on EF next time... 
Btw, if you lost your job over some silly comment I guess your sensitivity is understandable. | | | | | Not upset at all. Just not a big fan of cancel culture.
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23.04.2021, 08:49
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| | Re: Holidays abroad during Covid | Quote: | |  | | | Not upset at all. Just not a big fan of cancel culture. | | | | | I would probably agree with you if I didn't notice that these two words are too often used to dismiss legitimate actions or concerns. Anyways, it's off topic on this thread, I think we have a separate one.
Many people don't care about the crazy rulers of Dubai. Ironically that too seemed sort of "woke" (whatever that means) to me. For a family with kids who have longed for a holiday for the whole year maybe Dubai Parks & Resorts (Legoland Dubai, Legoland Water Park, Motiongate etc etc) doesn't sound that bad. I don't think I can save Princess Latiffa. It's the first time I heard of her anyway, so much far away from these boycotting movements I am. I guess we'll all have to agree to disagree on this thread. Anyways, currently it's out of the question because well....covid-19. It makes everything too complicated and risky. IMO We'll spend spring holiday in CH.
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26.04.2021, 17:29
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| | Re: Holidays abroad during Covid
Dubai is booked.
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26.04.2021, 17:43
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| | Re: Holidays abroad during Covid | Quote: | |  | | | Dubai is booked.
Let the haterz hate  | | | | | Just make sure you don't smoke before you go ... I don't know about you, but I'd take covid any day over jail in Dubai. https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/trave...ng-the-country
Seriously, any cultural wasteland that wouldn't allow me to hold my husband's hand in public is not my idea of fun, but y'all enjoy now! I always heard Oman is a nice place if Arabic culture & deserts are your thing.
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27.04.2021, 12:56
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| | Re: Holidays abroad during Covid | Quote: | |  | | | Just make sure you don't smoke before you go ... I don't know about you, but I'd take covid any day over jail in Dubai. https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/trave...ng-the-country
Seriously, any cultural wasteland that wouldn't allow me to hold my husband's hand in public is not my idea of fun, but y'all enjoy now! I always heard Oman is a nice place if Arabic culture & deserts are your thing. | | | | | I personally don't know if Arabic culture is my thing, would just like to see if Dubai is my thing!  There are quite a few places I'm curious about but never got to visit (work, family, work, studies, family, things to do....there's always something!) - and another thing pandemic has taught me/us is to try not postponing things we really want to do.
Btw, Petra in Jordan is one of them. I'm sure Oman is a nice place but it didn't really get under my radar so to speak. Oh and Israel..again. As soon as possible.
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27.04.2021, 13:44
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| | Re: Holidays abroad during Covid | Quote: | |  | | | Dubai is booked.
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27.04.2021, 14:08
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| | Re: Holidays abroad during Covid | Quote: | |  | | | Ironically, since I last posted someone I know just told me that she got COVID in Dubai the week before last. It's now turned into an infection hotspot.  | | | | | Unlike Switzerland of course.
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27.04.2021, 14:14
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| | Re: Holidays abroad during Covid | Quote: | |  | | | Unlike Switzerland of course. | | | | | Of course unlike Switzerland... tourists worldwide aren't flocking here to bypass COVID restrictions. They are flocking to Dubai where rules are lax and where the government basically don't give a ****.
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27.04.2021, 14:21
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| | Re: Holidays abroad during Covid
Chuff, I manage my risk. I’ve been abroad 20+ times in the past year, had more tests than I care to think about (last one on Saturday) and am 100% negative.
Just because you’re uncomfortable with it does not make my trip wrong or anrisk.
btw the Swiss restrictions are hardly solid, compare them to our neighbours.
And yes, I went to a restaurant last Monday too.
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