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swisskiwi 08.06.2021 16:34

USA Seattle Summer Holiday Travel with my spouse and son (non US citizens)
 
Hello all, My first post.

Still a bit confused and perhaps some families have already traveled to the US from Switzerland. My partner and I are not legally married. Her and my son both are Citizens of Switzerland. Can she accompany me into USA for a summer family trip with a negative covid test etc? End destination is Seattle, Washington. We understand end of June, many things are looking to open up, just curious if family can join. We want to book tickets asap and your thoughts are appreciated!

irish_temptation 08.06.2021 18:50

Re: USA Seattle Summer Holiday Travel with my spouse and son (non US citizens)
 
check with the embassy. I think not. No.
Tourism is not yet allowed.

Island Monkey 08.06.2021 19:41

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There is a work around if you have time. they can spend 2 weeks in a country to which travel to the USA is permitted, then travel on to the US. I know of people who have done this via Egypt and Dominican Republic. Mexico would be an option and I'm sure there are more.

hoover1 08.06.2021 19:47

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Originally Posted by Island Monkey (Post 3315218)
There is a work around if you have time. they can spend 2 weeks in a country to which travel to the USA is permitted, then travel on to the US. I know of people who have done this via Egypt and Dominican Republic. Mexico would be an option and I'm sure there are more.

but isn't that one needs 'a reason' to enter US and today turism is not the one?

I have BIL that just told me he can't come over to CH - would need to get a visa for CH (with US passport :rolleyes:) - strange ...

Island Monkey 08.06.2021 19:50

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Originally Posted by hoover1 (Post 3315224)
but isn't that one needs 'a reason' to enter US and today turism is not the one?

I have BIL that just told me he can't come over to CH - would need to get a visa for CH (with US passport :rolleyes:) - strange ...

From Europe yes.... but not everywhere. I just had a friend head over there via another country.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...countries.html
With specific exceptions, several Presidential proclamations suspend and limit entry into the United States, as immigrants or nonimmigrants, of noncitizens who were physically present within the following countries during the 14-day period preceding their entry or attempted entry into the United States. For a full list of exceptions, please refer to the relevant proclamations in the links below.

China
Iran
European Schengen area
United Kingdom
Republic of Ireland
Brazil
South Africa
India

There are family exceptions though, minor children being one. You should ask the US Embassy about your partner.

batucada 09.06.2021 11:38

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Hello,

We have recently traveled to the US, and my husband is EU (I am US/kids are US/EU). We were required to show a copy of our marriage license to establish our relationship, in order to board/enter as per the presidential proclamation from Jan 2021 (excerpted in part below). We were not asked about the purpose of our trip.

I don't know whether partners would be allowed per se, but if your child is US, then yes, your partner could enter. I assume you would then need to bring the child's birth certificate as proof.


It is important to bring proof to establish the relationships required for entry, this was not made clear when we left but luckily we had the documentation on hand. Even then, you might expect some secondary screening upon arrival.


All the best.


https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-...virus-disease/


Part of the presidential proclaimation from this year:

Sec. 2. Scope of Suspension and Limitation on Entry. (a) Section 1 of this proclamation shall not apply to:
(i) any lawful permanent resident of the United States;
(ii) any noncitizen national of the United States;
(iii) any noncitizen who is the spouse of a U.S. citizen or lawful permanent resident;
(iv) any noncitizen who is the parent or legal guardian of a U.S. citizen or lawful permanent resident, provided that the U.S. citizen or lawful permanent resident is unmarried and under the age of 21;
(v) any noncitizen who is the sibling of a U.S. citizen or lawful permanent resident, provided that both are unmarried and under the age of 21;
(vi) any noncitizen who is the child, foster child, or ward of a U.S. citizen or lawful permanent resident, or who is a prospective adoptee seeking to enter the United States pursuant to the IR-4 or IH-4 visa classifications
(vii) any noncitizen traveling at the invitation of the United States Government for a purpose related to containment or mitigation of the virus;
(viii) any noncitizen traveling as a nonimmigrant pursuant to a C-1, D, or C-1/D nonimmigrant visa as a crewmember or any noncitizen otherwise traveling to the United States as air or sea crew;

Susie-Q 09.06.2021 12:00

Re: USA Seattle Summer Holiday Travel with my spouse and son (non US citizens)
 
Despite everyone's helpful answers, I would not rely on what is said here and instead officially ask the US Embassy in Bern or Zurich.

Even if there are loopholes as suggested by others, I would not count on them for such a trip. You do not want your partner & son to be stuck at the border and have to turn back ... talk about ruining a vacation.

Good luck, I hope you can enjoy a nice Summer holiday with your family. As much as I want to go home and see mine, we decided now isn't the best time to head to the US ... too many uncertainties at the moment. I have a girlfriend who has been able to go home easily 3 times in the past several months - but she left her husband and child behind.

swisskiwi 09.06.2021 19:06

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Thank you soo much, we were looking at doing the civil marriage soon anyways, this might be just the push for her to do it!:) thanks for this, and for the others who have posted as well.

so_cal 09.06.2021 20:21

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Definitely ask the embassy, but my understanding is that parents of American citizens can enter. I'm assuming you and your son are Americans. If that assumption is wrong, sorry for the misunderstanding. Therefore your son's mother can too. I looked this up because we would be in the same boat. In the end, decided to leave the non- American behind anyway.

so_cal 09.06.2021 20:24

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Originally Posted by so_cal (Post 3315540)
Definitely ask the embassy, but my understanding is that parents of American citizens can enter. I'm assuming you and your son are Americans. If that assumption is wrong, sorry for the misunderstanding. Therefore your son's mother can too. I looked this up because we would be in the same boat. In the end, decided to leave the non- American behind anyway.

Oops I guess you do imply your son is not a citizen. Then you really do need to call the embassy.

olygirl 09.06.2021 21:41

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I've heard it's hard to find a PCR test in the Seattle vicinity. I hope they'll change the requirement to an anti-gen test.

batucada 09.06.2021 22:51

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Originally Posted by olygirl (Post 3315568)
I've heard it's hard to find a PCR test in the Seattle vicinity. I hope they'll change the requirement to an anti-gen test.


You can board the plane with an antigen test, but yes, the PCR test is required in addition at the Swiss border if they check. We were worried that we would not receive the PCR results in time as we found no one would guarantee the 72h turnaround. It worked out in the end luckily and we had those results.

olygirl 09.06.2021 22:58

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Originally Posted by batucada (Post 3315595)
You can board the plane with an antigen test, but yes, the PCR test is required in addition at the Swiss border if they check. We were worried that we would not receive the PCR results in time as we found no one would guarantee the 72h turnaround. It worked out in the end luckily and we had those results.

Did you find somebody in Seattle?

batucada 09.06.2021 23:15

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Originally Posted by olygirl (Post 3315598)
Did you find somebody in Seattle?


No, we were based out of the East coast. We got ourselves tested at Rite-Aid, which is partnered with Project Baseline in certain states. It looks like they are also active in Washington. The results come from PWNHealth, we got the results in 36h. It was free, but Project Baseline is affiliated with Verily/Google...

gumby 10.06.2021 01:32

Re: USA Seattle Summer Holiday Travel with my spouse and son (non US citizens)
 
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Originally Posted by olygirl (Post 3315568)
I've heard it's hard to find a PCR test in the Seattle vicinity. I hope they'll change the requirement to an anti-gen test.

I just got back fromt he US yesterday and I was able to use an anti-gen test to get into Switzerland. I thought I needed a PCR test but when Swiss airlines sent me an email a couple days before my flight it said:

Travelers to Switzerland must have a medical certificate with a negative COVID PCR test, taken within 72 hours before departure, or a negative COVID AntiGen Rapid test, taken within 24 hours before departure. In addition, all travelers must register online.


It was sent in connection with my outbound flight from ORD-ZRH, so I figured they must know what is required. The catch is you need a medical certificate with the results no older than 24 hours before departure. I ended up missing my Swiss air flight due to another flights delay, but I was able to get on a Lufthansa flight that left 2 hours later via Munich. I was not sure if my test would hold up with the Germans but it was no problem. I was asked for the test in both ORD and Munich. I was not asked for it in Switzerland, and didnt even have to go through a passport control upon arrival in ZRH.

If I was unable to get on the Lufthansa flight I would have been scheduled for a flight the following day and would have had to get another Covid-test.

Also when I called looking around in the US for a PCR test I was told by several places that they would not give a PCR test to people who did not have any symptoms.

so_cal 10.06.2021 06:16

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I've recently read that you don't need a test at all anymore to enter Switzerland if you are fully vaxxed.

irish_temptation 10.06.2021 10:02

Re: USA Seattle Summer Holiday Travel with my spouse and son (non US citizens)
 
Just read that the US embassy in Swittzerland thinks, that the restrictions will be eased shortly. Whatever that means :) Maybe for August that could work.

Island Monkey 10.06.2021 10:28

Re: USA Seattle Summer Holiday Travel with my spouse and son (non US citizens)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by so_cal (Post 3315621)
I've recently read that you don't need a test at all anymore to enter Switzerland if you are fully vaxxed.

Correct! Fully vaxed in the last 6 months = no test or locator form needed.

olygirl 28.06.2021 10:57

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Hi! I'll be leaving for Seattle in a few weeks. Do I need an anti-gen test? I'm having trouble finding up to date info. Thanks.

Patxi 28.06.2021 11:21

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Originally Posted by olygirl (Post 3322047)
Hi! I'll be leaving for Seattle in a few weeks. Do I need an anti-gen test? I'm having trouble finding up to date info. Thanks.

Antigen is all that is required. You could also do a PCR of course but not required.

Hope it cools down for you before your trip. It is obnoxiously warm at the moment there.


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