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Re: Which supermarket is the cheapest?

Usually there is a discussion that a person is either Coop Kind or Migros Kind.

In reality it is important to understand the business model of both of them. Migros is mostly backed by it's own brands (called private label) whereas Coop offers both own brands and commercial labels. In ideal way, Migros products should be compared to Coop private brand products.

Nonetheless, as stated above, Coop discounts are very competitive at times.
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Back when were students, a friend of mine worked summers in Denner. She told me to never ever buy meat there. It might have improved since ( 10-15 yrs ago ) but I have my doubts.
Just to back up what a previous poster said, it seems unfair to post this sort of comment made by a student 15 years ago working a summer job. Especially as the person presumably hadn't spent the same period working in a range of other supermarkets in order to compare. It seems even more unfair to say that you 'have your doubts' about whether they've improved over 15 years. You've no justification for saying that (or if you have, then say what it is). Personally I've only ever bought sausages, bacon, burgers etc from Denner rather than steaks and big joints but I've never had any issues.
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Usually there is a discussion that a person is either Coop Kind or Migros Kind.
I think that is not just about where you shop but the terms have some implication on your social status , outlook on life and even political preferences .

Probably going back to the values of the founders of the respective organizations .
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I think that is not just about where you shop but the terms have some implication on your social status , outlook on life and even political preferences .
What's the difference between them? Other than the migros kids not having a six pack of feldschlossen and a pack of smokes?
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What's the difference between them? Other than the migros kids not having a six pack of feldschlossen and a pack of smokes?
I don’t want to claim expertise but I believe the Migros shopper is assumed to be old school Protestant or have some other strict moral code and to lean slightly to the right on the political spectrum and read Blick whereas the coop shopper may have a university education or be catholic or atheist and lean somewhat to the left of the Migros shopper politically .

Anyway, there are probably thousands of other explanations . But the two dont necessarily see eye to eye on many matters . So labeling them Migros and Coop Kinder can sometimes be shorthand for some vague feeling you have about something that you can’t really put a finger on , and want to express in a very polite way .

There are old ladies who wouldn’t be seen dead in one or the other store .
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For the G&T lovers, Aldi have Fever Tree tonic @4.90, whereas Coop it’s 7.50.
Unfortunately their Gin selection is lacking, so goto Lidl while their promotion is on.
They’ve also got Heineken and SuperBock at @24 for 24 cans, not bad at all.
Self quoting, bad form.
Coop ‘aktuell’ on slab of ‘European cup’ Feldschlossen, chf42!
So same price as usual!
To be fair I hardly ever see the Swiss beer (chopfab, Feld, quell etc)with a proper discount, must be good old fashioned brand image.
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Re: Which supermarket is the cheapest?

Coop’s Anker beer, which is brewed in Reinfelden (Feldsclossen), is often at 2 for 1 or 50% off. Aprox 12fr for 24 5dl.

I can’t tell the difference with ‘normal’ Feldsclossen.
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Coop’s Anker beer, which is brewed in Reinfelden (Feldsclossen), is often at 2 for 1 or 50% off. Aprox 12fr for 24 5dl.

I can’t tell the difference with ‘normal’ Feldsclossen.
Good to know. I’m currently a fan of Aldi’s ‘St Gotthard’ at 63 Rappen a can.

I think somewhere on the forum is a ‘good cheap beer’ thread that needs resurrecting.
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Self quoting, bad form.
Coop ‘aktuell’ on slab of ‘European cup’ Feldschlossen, chf42!
So same price as usual!
To be fair I hardly ever see the Swiss beer (chopfab, Feld, quell etc)with a proper discount, must be good old fashioned brand image.
Last year Coop had two or three 20% off all beers offers. I cleared 4 or 5 local stores out of Chopfab Hell each time. I don’t think I‘ve seen such a deal this year though.
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Good to know. I’m currently a fan of Aldi’s ‘St Gotthard’ at 63 Rappen a can.

I think somewhere on the forum is a ‘good cheap beer’ thread that needs resurrecting.
The Anker is normally around fr25-26 for 24. On special that drops to 13-14 or so.
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I think somewhere on the forum is a ‘good cheap beer’ thread that needs resurrecting.
I posted about Anker there some years ago, but some beer snob dissed me saying it was crap beer. Didn’t see the point of wasting time there.
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Re: Which supermarket is the cheapest?

In terms of absolute cheapness, personally I find:
  • Lidl to be the cheapest,
  • Aldi comes at the close second,
  • next go Denner/Migros/Alnatura/Voi pushing back and forth with Coop,
  • Volg and Landi (they have groceries, so it technically counts as a supermarket),
  • Globus, Jelmoli

There are also Outlet Migros and other similar stores, which may have some bargains with bulk packages, if you are willing to spend time commuting and fishing for deals there (which may be a solution for big families with single provider). Also, don't expect nicely marketed or fresh produce there.

However, when optimizing my shopping cart and in-store experience, I discovered, that my best personal choice is a small check shopping in Aldi, Alnatura and Lidl, and a big check shopping in Coop (not Pronto, those are only for a Sunday icecream or an early morning quick grab).

The latter is largely thanks to their Supercard gamified experience and only really functional loyalty program in Switzerland. When counting in all the perks [especially the miles conversion rate], Supercard leaves me much more satisfied after the shopping. Coop prices are usually 10-30% higher for the similar items, than in Aldi or Lidl, but with some smart optimizations I have >20% returns in points, which in its turn brings even more in MnM miles for better travel experience. This is a specific case for someone playful and flying a lot, but still may be relevant. Without a gamification I can't spend more than 10 minutes in a store, it gets dull quickly and brings much meh.

Globus is good, if you need to get excited with some interesting product or to buy cheap mid-market booze, but for regular or bulk shopping it is sub-optimal.

Also, an alternative to supermarkets worth a mention is HelloFresh [and similar services]. I personally tried HelloFresh to save time, but it ended up a complete nonsense. It is not advertised to be cheap, but it gradually became more expensive than getting groceries from the local market or Globus. The quality of produce and its freshness had also noticeably degraded over past 12 months and are in general inconsistent. And even when the the price is not an issue, my experience is that you still have to go and get some products from retail, so delivering just a random part of your cart saves virtually no time. So I unsubscribed this spring.

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I don’t want to claim expertise but I believe the Migros shopper is assumed to be old school Protestant or have some other strict moral code and to lean slightly to the right on the political spectrum
That is an interesting idea. Although I can't get rid of the strong association between Migros brand and Turkey (it is big and well established there, and have more customers, than the whole Switzerland), this fact is still somewhat relevant to leaning towards right views on the political spectrum (not that I thought that of Turkish people or businesses, but rather it feels as a leitmotif of the state's external politics dropping a shade on its name).

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When you are fully integrated you will stop looking for value & go to Jelmoli, where you get very much less for very much more
Globus actually. Much nicer re food.

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I think that is not just about where you shop but the terms have some implication on your social status , outlook on life and even political preferences .

Probably going back to the values of the founders of the respective organizations .
Nope, it's a what was closest when you grew up thing.
If you lived in the sticks, there would be a "Migros-Wagge" (a sales truck) coming by on Wednesdays. Okay the Wednesdays was in my town.

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What's the difference between them? Other than the migros kids not having a six pack of feldschlossen and a pack of smokes?
I was told yesterday, that Migros is pondering to sell tobacco and alcohol and will decide on that next year!
The main of Gottlieb Duttweiler, founder of Migros, was not to sell either.
While I smoke and like a drink once in a while, such a decision would not only be against the basic idea but actually not really going with the times, would it.

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I don’t want to claim expertise but I believe the Migros shopper is assumed to be old school Protestant or have some other strict moral code and to lean slightly to the right on the political spectrum and read Blick whereas the coop shopper may have a university education or be catholic or atheist and lean somewhat to the left of the Migros shopper politically .

Anyway, there are probably thousands of other explanations . But the two dont necessarily see eye to eye on many matters . So labeling them Migros and Coop Kinder can sometimes be shorthand for some vague feeling you have about something that you can’t really put a finger on , and want to express in a very polite way .

There are old ladies who wouldn’t be seen dead in one or the other store .

Did it take you long to invent all this??
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I was told yesterday, that Migros is pondering to sell tobacco and alcohol and will decide on that next year!
The main of Gottlieb Duttweiler, founder of Migros, was not to sell either.
While I smoke and like a drink once in a while, such a decision would not only be against the basic idea but actually not really going with the times, would it.

I find it silly that Migrolino sells tobacco and alcohol, and so does Denner which is owned by Migros anyway. It's a little hypocritical.
Yesterday I went to a BBQ and went to the nearest Coop, because at least then I could buy beer at the same time. Migros was closer and I would have gone there if there was beer, so maybe they might do better with alcohol sales?
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In terms of absolute cheapness, personally I find:
  • Lidl to be the cheapest,
  • Aldi comes at the close second,
  • next go Denner/Migros/Alnatura/Voi pushing back and forth with Coop,
  • Volg and Landi (they have groceries, so it technically counts as a supermarket),
  • Globus, Jelmoli
Denner is definitely cheaper than Migros / Coop in my experience.
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I find it silly that Migrolino sells tobacco and alcohol, and so does Denner which is owned by Migros anyway. It's a little hypocritical.
Yesterday I went to a BBQ and went to the nearest Coop, because at least then I could buy beer at the same time. Migros was closer and I would have gone there if there was beer, so maybe they might do better with alcohol sales?
Why Migros doesn't sell alcohol? Is it some kind of religious thing ?
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Why Migros doesn't sell alcohol? Is it some kind of religious thing ?
I don't think it's religous, I think it was a health thing, no tobacco or alcohol. Loads of MSG though.
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I find it silly that Migrolino sells tobacco and alcohol, and so does Denner which is owned by Migros anyway. It's a little hypocritical.
Yesterday I went to a BBQ and went to the nearest Coop, because at least then I could buy beer at the same time. Migros was closer and I would have gone there if there was beer, so maybe they might do better with alcohol sales?
Denner did not always belong to Migros.
Denner has a history, fighting for low tobacco prices. They invented all kinds of systems to fight this fight, google it, if you're interested.

Something else: I'm a Migros-Chind (I just felt amogles applying that funny stamp on my bum, labelling all aspects of my life/thinking/background/attitude/political orientation to me It felt like ink, so at least he didn't use a searing iron) so I wouldn't know if the following applies to the other shops as well:

Today I bought a water melon. It was frozen!! Last week there were Zucchini on offer, also frozen (those I decided not to buy). Both in the fresh vegetable department.

Now this is "Vortäuschung falscher Tatsachen" (a type of fraud) in my opinion.
I do not mind buying frozen food but a) I want it to be declared as such, b) that food gets frozen right after harvesting and they have to grant a continuous cooling chain.
I know fruit and veggies are often picked before totally ripe (bananas, avocados, mangos come to mind) and they ripen on the way here. Which is fine.
To freeze food, then sell it as fresh, people buy it and freeze it (because they bought it fresh, right? ) should in my opinion be illegal, in fact I'm quiet sure it is? Anybody visiting Migros later in the afternoon will no longer feel/know that those melons were frozen.
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I don't think it's religous, I think it was a health thing, no tobacco or alcohol. Loads of MSG though.
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