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Hi

We are from Australia and we'll be travelling to Geneva in July 2010.

The plan is to hire a car and drive around Switzerland and then down to Italy and Greece for 6 weeks.

Any suggestions as to what to see and do in Geneva and around Switzerland and where to stay on a budget (considering that we are 5 and I wouldn't want to pay 100CHF per person per night)

Our kids are 21yo, 19yo and 16yo
Suggestions for Italy and Greece are welcome as well

Many thanks
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Re: travel tips & accommodation around Geneva in July 2010

I always go for Etaps. Not great but do the job. You can also get 3 to a room. At 100 chf a night it's usually as cheap as I can find.
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Thanks,
Anything else?
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Be around Geneva 01 August for the Fête Nationale. Great fireworks show.

Great little beaches (les plages) all up the lake edge to make a BBQ too. Great resto in Gland to try and savour for me the best filet de perche, with sauce maison- Hotel de La Plage http://www.hoteldelaplage.info/

Visit the village of Cully (a must) and Lavaux region- great vineyards on south facing steep-terraced slopes http://www.lavaux.ch/ The region is part of UNESCO patrimony since Fall 2008. Try some Fechy white while in the Lavaux....
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Lake parade on the 10th july, if you like to dance in the street... I'm sure the kids would love it....

Some pics from 2009 : http://www.lakeparade.ch/review_2009_photos.php


See you there !!!
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Re: travel tips & accommodation around Geneva in July 2010

Hello Bill
there are a few B&B in Switzerland, see here for example
http://www.bnb.ch/index.php?m=1
You can start contacting the tourist offices in the towns you want to visit, they have lsits of accomodation, staff is kind helpful and professional
http://www.geneve-tourisme.ch/?rubrique=0000000259

Place to see:
http://www.castle-gruyeres.ch/e/index.html

Ahh, almost forgot this:
http://www.glacierexpress.ch/theglacierexpress.php
and this
http://www.goldenpass.ch/goldenpass_...x_zweisimmen_d
(English) http://www.goldenpass.ch/default.asp?Language=EN
Trains are a good way to see CH

Enjoy CH, it is a beautiful place
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Re: travel tips & accommodation around Geneva in July 2010

Don't forget that the Montreux Jazz Festival is from the 2nd - 17th July. This will make accomodation in the area hard to find and prices leap up.

Geneva should be OK but if you are travelling along the lake it will probably be a factor.

http://www.montreuxjazz.com/

Try these for accomodation.

http://www.rooms.ch/

Hotel Information

http://www.youthhostel.ch/home.html?&L=1
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Re: travel tips & accommodation around Geneva in July 2010

Thanks everyone
Some great links and suggestions there,
I'll check them all out

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Re: travel tips & accommodation around Geneva in July 2010

IMHO Montreux Jazz Festival is about the mean green. Having been here many years it has gone from having a soul, back when it was in the old Casino, to being the big overgrown monster since the move to the Auditorium Stravinski. Too many tat food stalls, tat souvenirs stalls, and a music programme that is so overpriced as to be obscene.

Cully Jazz Festival is another story. Although in late March early April it is the best kept secret in Switzerland. http://www.cullyjazz.ch/
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Hi

We are from Australia and we'll be travelling to Geneva in July 2010.

The plan is to hire a car and drive around Switzerland and then down to Italy and Greece for 6 weeks.

Any suggestions as to what to see and do in Geneva and around Switzerland and where to stay on a budget (considering that we are 5 and I wouldn't want to pay 100CHF per person per night)

Our kids are 21yo, 19yo and 16yo
Suggestions for Italy and Greece are welcome as well

Many thanks
Bill
On this website, you'll find useful tips about Switzerland: http://www.myswitzerland.com/en/home.html

In Geneva, I'd recommend you to visit the UN building:
http://www.geneve-tourisme.ch/?rubri...0153&lang=_eng

And stop by the Reformation Wall: http://www.geneve-tourisme.ch/?rubrique=0000000175

As for Switzerland, I'd recommend you to visit Geneva, Lausanne, Sion, Locarno, Lugano. You will cover the main cities and make the most to your trip on your way to Italy.

Then in Italy, Stresa (for the Borromeo Islands): http://www.stresa.org/eng/index.html

I don't know Italy that much. I've only been to Stresa and Milan. Milan was just OK. I am thinking about visiting Roma in June. I can give you more tips later on.
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Re: travel tips & accommodation around Geneva in July 2010

Hi everyone,

Well, in Geneva you have a lot to see, but generally people are visiting the old town (very nice), the UN edifice (which is out of the town by taking the Tram No 10 from the main station); next to the UN you have also the Jardin Botanique, very nice and interessant. It is a park where you can find all kind of trees, plants, birds, flowers, etc...

Then if you drive for Italy, you have two possibilities:

1) to drive direction Chamonix (motorway France and around 100km from Geneva) to take the Tunnel du Mont-Blanc and arrive directly in Italy (Val d'Aoste, famous for the skiing resorts like, Sestrières, Soulz and Cervinia, Torino). You can stop both in Chamonix and Torino.
From Torino you can drive direction Milan, which is a wonderfull city and where you should do a stop for 2 days minimum.
From Milan you go direction Bologna/Ravenna/Rimini, which are all on the Adriatic cost or direction Parma/Pisa/Livourne, which is on the Mediterrannean cost and in the Toscane region, one of the beautiful part of the Italy (personnal opinion) because of her History. You can also continue until Rome, wonderfull city. It depends of where you want to take the boat for Greece.

2) From Geneva you can drive through Switzerland direction Lausanne/Grand St-Bernard/Simplon (motorway), which is the Valais canton, famous for his skiiing resorts and go in Tessin (south of Switzerland) though the Nufenen Pass (Vallée de Conches), national road, which is absolutely nice with his special Landscapes. You go up until 2493m! Then you will go down until Airolo (Tessin) and take again the motorway direction Lugano/Milan. You can stop in Locarno (exit Bellinzona South) and visit Locarno (famous for her Film Festival) and Ascona, on the lake, old town without car. Then you can go back to go in Lugano (motorway from Bellinzona), do a stop too because it is very nice.
Then drive, with the motorway, direction Milano. Then you can also do like the first road I indicated you above.

For the hotels, maybe you can check with the accor.com hotels. It is a hotel company with different hotel which includes Ibis, Mercure, Sofitel. The cheapest are the Ibis and quite good for one or two nights.

I hope you will enjoy your trip in Switzerland, Italy and Greece. Have fun and take care of your family,
Best Regards, Elizabeth
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Re: travel tips & accommodation around Geneva in July 2010

Many thanks for the tips

We've now booked the flights and the car and are looking for accommodation.

We've got a car so we don't need to stay in city centres and expensive hotels. So far I've got a few good tips but I haven't booked anything yet so if you know any apartments around Geneva, Nice, Milan, Venice, Rome and Athens or anywhere on the way please let me know

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Re: travel tips & accommodation around Geneva in July 2010

Elizabeth

Thanks for the detailed post.

Initially we were thinking of travelling east through Lausanne but now we're thinking of going to Nice & Monaco for a few days
so we'll do the trip you've suggested on the way back.

Here is a the plan.
After we've explored Geneva and it's surrounds we'll drive to Lyon and then continue south to Nice where we'll stay for 2or 3 nights and then continue to Genova and take the A12 and drive down to Pisa.
Stay around Pisa and perhaps drive to Florence and then stay in Rome for a week.
Spend 3 days looking around Rome and then do day trips North and South.
I was told to be careful and to avoid southern Italy because there is a lot of stealing going on but we are going because we want to see the ancient sites.

Once we're done we'll take the boat from Ancona or Bari to Greece and we'll probably go to Patras and then drive south to olympia etc and then go to Athens and from there take boats to the various Greek islands.

There are lots of places we want to see in Greece.
I also wanted to drive North through Yugoslavia but my wife doesn't feel comfortable with this idea so we'll probably take the boat from Greece to Italy.
On the way back we can explore the eastern side of Italy, and then Venice, will stay in Milan and continue North to Lugano, Tessin, Lausanne and Geneva where we return the car.

We are flying KLM so we plan to stop in Amsterdam for a day before we fly home to Sydney

It's the first time we take such a trip and I don't know how long we should stay at each location.
I think we'll book rooms for a few days at some key locations and if we like a spot we'll try to extend our accomodation. If we can't extend our accom we have the option to camp and as a last resort we could sleep in the car for a night if we had to. I'm sure it will be an adventure

What do you think of the above plan?
Anything we should change or add?

Cheers
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Re: travel tips & accommodation around Geneva in July 2010

Hi

Also, another person informed me that the roads to Italy will be packed in July.

Will it be better to drive straight to Italy as soon as we arrive 3rd of July to avoid all the other cars and then return to explore Switzerland, Monaco and southern France in late July/August?
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Southern France is just so packed in the summer. It is just not much fun IMO.
A few years ago we did a cruise that did Italy, Greece, Croatia, France, and Spain.
I am not a cruise sort of guy but I have to admit that it was a fabulous way to see all those places without having to deal with packing/unpacking, hotel reservations etc...

In Switzerland, I usually rent a chalet for a week. It is pretty cost effective and you can do day trips to almost anywhere in Switzerland.
I think it would be a shame to not see the Matterhorn or the Jungfrau region while in Switzerland. Geneva is not that interesting.
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I think it would be a shame to not see the Matterhorn or the Jungfrau region while in Switzerland. Geneva is not that interesting.
Thanks, I'll check it out
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Regarding the lake Geneva area, you should go visit the Chillon castle that sits on an islet on the lake close to Montreux. It is one of the best [if not the best] preserved gothic middle age castle in Europe.

Also Gruyere is a touristic town but it is also a perfectly preserved middle age town on a hill with a castle on top. You can also visit the Gruyere cheese factory near by.

Stop by the Lavaux vineyards that offer a wonderful view over the lake and the French alps. The area is protected and has several well preserved villages.
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Regarding the lake Geneva area, you should go visit the Chillon castle that sits on an islet on the lake close to Montreux. It is one of the best [if not the best] preserved gothic middle age castle in Europe.

Also Gruyere is a touristic town but it is also a perfectly preserved middle age town on a hill with a castle on top. You can also visit the Gruyere cheese factory near by.

Stop by the Lavaux vineyards that offer a wonderful view over the lake and the French alps. The area is protected and has several well preserved villages.
Thanks for the tips, I was planning to visit the area and the castle but tips such as where to stop for views are very useful
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Thanks for the tips, I was planning to visit the area and the castle but tips such as where to stop for views are very useful
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Here is a blog . It is a nice area to have a meal and try local wines while enjoying the view.

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Re: travel tips & accommodation around Geneva in July 2010

Gosshh I love this forum.
So many places I want to visit myself now!
I dont know how anybody managed without EF, sbb.com and Navigation in their car!

I personally would be interested in people's advice on the traffic. Are there certain times and roads that are particularly bad? Is there a way to avoid the traffic - leaving at 3am or anything!?
We got stuck in traffic in Italy for SO LONG last summer, and even though it was completely worth it once we got there I always wonder if it would have been different if we had left sometime before sunrise or on a different date..

Have a great time Bill and family
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