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Old 03.02.2011, 22:02
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From the Swiss border, you're looking at a minimum of 3 hours unless you travel during the night.
90 minutes from Chiasso to Genova.

Are you riding a bicycle?

Tom

P.S. This assumes no traffic, or you are riding a motorcycle. It's only 400 km from ZH to Genova (if you take the correct route).
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Old 03.02.2011, 22:07
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Very nice. But if you are keen on sea quality Liguria should be your best option, been going there myself for ages.
I friend of mine lives in Calice Ligure (near Finale Ligure), so three hours from Lugano.

Nice area.

Five hours from here, I'm in Antibes! (which I like a LOT)

But, if you want the BEST beaches, drive to Genova and take the ferry to Corsica. Best beaches I have ever seen, and you will be glad to return to inexpensive CH after your holiday!

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Old 03.02.2011, 22:18
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(if you take the correct route).
Please, what is the exact route that's best? What about traffic? There are so many theories about this!
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Old 03.02.2011, 22:30
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Please, what is the exact route that's best? What about traffic? There are so many theories about this!
Best time to leave Lugano is lunch time, almost no traffic 12-15h.

Fastest to take the western tangenziale if you're goint to Genova and south, but the Varese/Gravelona route if heading west of Genova (or just want a nicer, less travelled road).

Tomorrow we're going to Soave for the weekend (wine, food, and motorcycles), so I'll leave early from work, figure at 16h (want to avoid Milan rush hour traffic)

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Old 04.02.2011, 09:00
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Best time to leave Lugano is lunch time, almost no traffic 12-15h.

Fastest to take the western tangenziale if you're goint to Genova and south, but the Varese/Gravelona route if heading west of Genova (or just want a nicer, less travelled road).

Tomorrow we're going to Soave for the weekend (wine, food, and motorcycles), so I'll leave early from work, figure at 16h (want to avoid Milan rush hour traffic)

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Thanks, and what about from Zurich to Genoa? Through Lugano and then on, as per your route, or a different route?
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Thanks, and what about from Zurich to Genoa? Through Lugano and then on, as per your route, or a different route?
Take the highway from Zurich to Lugano, under two hours with the new tunnel!

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90 minutes from Chiasso to Genova.

Are you riding a bicycle?

Tom

P.S. This assumes no traffic, or you are riding a motorcycle. It's only 400 km from ZH to Genova (if you take the correct route).
lol, you're right. And there's nothing like a dip in cruise ship poop

And I like to factor in the mandatory delay at Chiasso and around Milan plus the old "going around in circles following Italian signs" Plus if we sell it right, we have less friends from the north passing though
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Old 04.02.2011, 09:16
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lol, you're right. And there's nothing like a dip in cruise ship poop

And I like to factor in the mandatory delay at Chiasso and around Milan plus the old "going around in circles following Italian signs" Plus if we sell it right, we have less friends from the north passing though
What delay at Chiasso?

You just need to time it right, or go by motorcycle.

Same with around Milano, which is why we will leave for Soave at 14 and get there in 2 1/2 hours rather than at 17 and get there in 4 1/2 hours!

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You just need to time it right, or go by motorcycle.
Exactly. And many people can't or don't know this or by the time they get down to the land of the palms, they have no choice.
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And I like to factor in the mandatory delay at Chiasso
When there is traffic in Chiasso, its better to leave the motorway, go downtown Chiasso and from there pass the border.
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When there is traffic in Chiasso, its better to leave the motorway, go downtown Chiasso and from there pass the border.
Also, passing the border at Gaggiolo is better, especially if heading west of Genova.

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Take the highway from Zurich to Lugano, under two hours with the new tunnel!

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? new tunnel ? which new tunnel ?
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Old 04.02.2011, 11:26
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And I like to factor in the mandatory delay at Chiasso and around Milan plus the old "going around in circles following Italian signs" Plus if we sell it right, we have less friends from the north passing though
educational video about driving in Italy:

http://www.lifeinitaly.com/flash
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Old 04.02.2011, 11:33
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? new tunnel ? which new tunnel ?
Uetliberg tunnel.

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Uetliberg tunnel.

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I was hoping for an additional gotthard tunnel I hadn't heard about
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I envy your your trip!

the Saint Tropez of the Italian Riviera and the beautiful Cinque Terre - The Five Lands.

http://en.agriturismo.it/ - As it's name suggests, it's an agricultural tourism site, in other words, lovely old farms that have been converted into B&Bs.

Where ever you go there, you are bound to enjoy yourself.

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Ï wonder why anyone mention "St Tropez" in a "nice beach topic".

St Tropez is a big crap only famous because it used to be the "place to be" for french celebrities in the 70's-80's. Basically when people where travelling less.

Probably a bit like some UK places before Easyjet, Ryanair, jet2, etc... lead mass people to Spain.

It's little place, crowded in summer, crappy in winter.
it's ultra expensive for nothing.
Beach are all but "nice", and it's mainly a "port" anyway where rich people park their boats.

Anyway even the region arround St tropez is relatively crap and certainly crowded and unpleasing in late spring/summer time.

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Ï wonder why anyone mention "St Tropez" in a "nice beach topic".

St Tropez is a big crap only famous because it used to be the "place to be" for french celebrities in the 70's-80's.
I suppose it's just a matter of giving people options, you never know what they're looking for. I also read in this thread that Adriatic beaches are an option, personally I wouldn't go there even for free, that's not sea, just muddy water, at least within the 5 hour trip, it gets better down South of course. But then again, if you are looking for lively nightlife Adriatic is indeed an option, as it is Saint Tropez, in its own way (except the 5 hours constriction).
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