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Satellite TV question (Canal Digital)

I don't know anything about satellite TV but I'm trying to help a friend with her setup. Friend is in Küsnacht and has for years watched Dutch satellite TV via Canal Digital. In the past 3 months she is getting the following message on her TV (translated from Dutch):

"On 1st of March this program stops on the 19,2 satellite position - call for a free HD receiver / Duo LNB and stay watching."

She now has a new Canal Digital card for her TopField TF5000CI satellite receiver (purchased in Switzerland), but we're confused about the need for a Duo LNB as well as the 19,2 satellite position. As far as we can tell from Wikipedia the Canal Digital satellites are all at 1W...? Does she really need a Duo LNB? Is that the same as a Twin LNB? I thought those were for connecting to 2 satellites in different locations with one dish...?

Thanks in advance for any help :-)
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Old 02.02.2011, 18:40
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Re: Satellite TV question (Canal Digital)

sounds like you have the Canal Digitaal "freeview" card which you'll need to source again in Holland. It decodes channels like SBS6, Veronica, RTL6, etc?

I think it's about €40.

Check out the website which IIRC is www.canaldigitaal.nl
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Re: Satellite TV question (Canal Digital)

Yes, a friend brought her a new card from Holland today. But the warning message still comes up.
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I don't know anything about satellite TV but I'm trying to help a friend with her setup. Friend is in Küsnacht and has for years watched Dutch satellite TV via Canal Digital. In the past 3 months she is getting the following message on her TV (translated from Dutch):

"On 1st of March this program stops on the 19,2 satellite position - call for a free HD receiver / Duo LNB and stay watching."

She now has a new Canal Digital card for her TopField TF5000CI satellite receiver (purchased in Switzerland), but we're confused about the need for a Duo LNB as well as the 19,2 satellite position. As far as we can tell from Wikipedia the Canal Digital satellites are all at 1W...? Does she really need a Duo LNB? Is that the same as a Twin LNB? I thought those were for connecting to 2 satellites in different locations with one dish...?

Thanks in advance for any help :-)
It could be that they are moving the signal on the other ASTRA satellite 23.5, therefore you'd need a duo LNB (19.2 + 23.5)
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Old 02.02.2011, 18:44
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Re: Satellite TV question (Canal Digital)

reading the message, it seems absolutely the case. So if you want Dutch only, swing 4 degrees. If you want both sats, get their LNB as the LNBs on the market will typically have 6 degrees of separation and not 4 (and a bit)
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Re: Satellite TV question (Canal Digital)

Ah ha, from the Canaldigitaal website:

Werkt goed i.c.m een Duo-LNB: ASTRA 19,2 en ASTRA 23,5 gelijktijdig ontvangen.

Would this work?

http://www.satonline.ch/shopping/sat...um_4_3Grad.php

Her receiver only has one LNB input. Do the two satellites have different channels, or is it that one is digital and one not?
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Ah ha, from the Canaldigitaal website:

Werkt goed i.c.m een Duo-LNB: ASTRA 19,2 en ASTRA 23,5 gelijktijdig ontvangen.

Would this work?

http://www.satonline.ch/shopping/sat...um_4_3Grad.php

Her receiver only has one LNB input. Do the two satellites have different channels, or is it that one is digital and one not?
this one would work.
The dual-LNB output will carry both signals so don't worry about the input of her receiver. Some Canal channels will be on the 19.2 satellite and others on the 23.5; that's why you need a dual-LNB (only one cable from dual-LNB to your receiver).
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Yes, that 4.3 degree separated LNB will work. This will allow you to not adjust the dish and simply replace the LNB.

Now when you replace the LNB and are facing the dish, the arm should hold the left side of the LNB (remember you're facing the dish) and the part on the right should be slightly lower (not much at all).

That will allow you to pull in signals from the Astra1 satellite cluster at 19.2 degrees east as well as receiving the signals from 23.5 degrees east which is where your Dutch channels will be from March 1st.

You will also have to tell your satellite box that it's getting A from 19 and B from 23 degrees when seeking channels.

If you DON'T need the rif-raf that isn't the Dutch channels on 19.2 east, you can simply swing the dish 4.3 degrees east. If you're facing the dish (it's on a balcony, for example) then you rotate the dish about 4cm to your right (and you may have to lower the elevation just slightly).

Clear as mud, right? You should go motorised and install yourself, that's fun!!
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Re: Satellite TV question (Canal Digital)

Are you sure about both LNB signals on the output? It looks like the LNB has two separate outputs...?
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Re: Satellite TV question (Canal Digital)

it's a monoblock with two outputs.

What does that mean?

Each output can switch each LNB H and V and provide that input to your box.

If your box has only one input, no worries - keep the rubber boot on the other one.
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Re: Satellite TV question (Canal Digital)

Ok, I think I get it. Thanks very much you two!! I'll post back if I have problems after I get the LNB.
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Re: Satellite TV question (Canal Digital)

A double LNB will allow two feed and depending on the box, you can record two channels at once and watch a 3rd. This is how my Humax HD recorder Freesat box works.

You can use a single LNB, but won't get full benefit...
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Re: Satellite TV question (Canal Digital)

Fail!

I went to my friend's house with the new Twin LNB and discovered that her dish has an integral Twin LNB. Her LNB has two modules, separated a bit more than on the twin LNB I bought, and in a molded plastic module that's molded to the arm on the dish. So no way to install the LNB I bought.

Her twin LNB had two wires coming out of it, running to a box on the back of the dish, and then one wire from that box going into the house.

Can anyone recommend a satellite guy around Küsnacht who might be able to help her with this? She's willing to buy a new dish, if necessary.
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Re: Satellite TV question (Canal Digital)

I believe you'll only need a second LNB for the HD + local channels that Canal Digitaal broadcasts. The "general" channels are all on Astra 19.2.
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Yes, my friend wants the local and HD channels as well.
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