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I am moving to a new apartment and the telephone socket looks like this:



What the hell is this? In my current apartment I have a standard RJ. They told me the apartment had preinstallation for cable so I ordered Cablecom, how can I connect a router to this thing?

If cablecom doesn't go with this, can I get any other company router with an adaptor or something?
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Old 18.03.2011, 19:42
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Re: Swiss telephone socket

Cablecom uses Tv/Radio point ( coax ) and not your telephone point..

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Re: Swiss telephone socket

That is an old telephone socket. You contact a TV-electrical company who will change this 30 year old connection for a new one.

However I understand Cablecom work over the TV co-axial cable network.

Maybe you should ask the owner what is supplied to your apartment.
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Old 18.03.2011, 19:58
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Re: Swiss telephone socket

There are also "old to new" adapter plugs available from electrical retailers.
But unless you're confusing Cablecom with Swisscom TV/internet, then (as previously stated) you wont need this for Cablecom TV.
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Old 18.03.2011, 20:51
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Re: Swiss telephone socket

It might also be worthwhile checking with CableCom if they supply the TV/Radio co-axial fitment as part of the intial installation.

It's a long time ago now but if I recall correctly from the previous apartment on changing over to CableCom, that the installation technician fitted this part and at no additional costing.
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Re: Swiss telephone socket

Thank you very much for your replies, I didn't know the new building was THAT old They did a good job reforming it.

I had already asked the owner but he has no idea. He only knows that the building is connected to "Naxoo", and since that's cable TV I assumed they would have Cablecom connection too.

There is a coaxial socket in the wall but I didn't see anything special, is it just like a regular tv socket? Tomorrow when I come back I will take a picture of it too.

However I shouldn't worry about this, I got a reply from Cablecom saying they will not send me the router right away, a technician has to come first to check the installation. I just hope they do it fast
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Re: Swiss telephone socket

This is the tv/radio socket on the wall. Do you think it has cable installation, or is it impossible to tell? (I don't know anything about this stuff)

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This is the tv/radio socket on the wall. Do you think it has cable installation, or is it impossible to tell? (I don't know anything about this stuff) ...
Not knowledgeable either on such matters but going by the picture supplied in the post by @Joey82, the one in your piccie does look kinda dated...

The CableCom installation technician will sort all this out for you when they visit.

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This is the tv/radio socket on the wall. Do you think it has cable installation, or is it impossible to tell? (I don't know anything about this stuff)
This is a standard 2x coaxal connection is for TV and Radio. It's fitted 90 out of synch, but this wont effect its use.
In Joey's picture above, the 3rd (slightly smaller) socket is for Cablecom Digital TV/Internet.
As you don't have that, the Cablecom engineer should be able to change the 2x socket for a 3x socket - providing it is connected to Cablecom cable within your building, in the first place - impossible to tell from pic.
If it's not, then you could have problems.

For our house, 10 yrs. ago, it cost 1700 chufs (standard charge - immaterial of what was involved) for Cablecom connection.
Now and in an apartment block, to have Cablecom freshly connected/installed, I have no idea.
Sorry, don't know Naxoo - it could be a local provider.
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Re: Swiss telephone socket

Mind you if the building is setup for cablecom, plugging it in the " tv" outlet can work also.

Mine is plugged into the tv outlet, you get a small adaptor piece with your modem so it fits.

Just ring cablecom,they can tell you if your address is rigged up for cable or not.

If yes, then just plug it into the tv or radio outlet, depending on where you get signal.
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Re: Swiss telephone socket

Thank you very much again to all of you, I guess there's nothing to do but wait until the technician come
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Old 19.03.2011, 17:34
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Re: Swiss telephone socket

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There are also "old to new" adapter plugs available from electrical retailers.
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You can even get them at Migros.

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This is the tv/radio socket on the wall. Do you think it has cable installation, or is it impossible to tell? (I don't know anything about this stuff)

That's what mine looked like until the Cablecom guys came around to change them earlier this month.

Plug in a TV and see. If you have more than four channels or so, you have cable.

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Re: Swiss telephone socket

Hi again,

Today the technician came and apparently the cables are too old to connect Cablecom


Now I called Swisscom to set a fixed line connection and order Orange ADSL, but they told me I need to find out if there has been any telephone line in my apartment anytime in the past; or at least the names of the previous tenants to look for them. If not, I need to pay an electrician, or something like, that a lot of money to set up a telephone connection. ??

Is that normal? I mean, if I have a telephone socket and my building is prepared for Swisscom (some neighbours have it) why do I need to pay an electrician?

Do you know how much money would it be?
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Old 28.03.2011, 14:54
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Re: Swiss telephone socket

In your situation, this is how you get connected in Switzerland.

You choose which TV supplier you like (Swisscom, Orange, Cablecom). You choose which supplier for an Internet connection (All the above plus Sunrise)

You contact the local electrical company, who install the necessary cabling, out to the junction box in the street. Ask for an estimate! They inform the chosen supplier who switches on the connection to your home.

You try and get the landlord to pay for the cabling. You end up paying for everything else, including Billag.
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Old 28.03.2011, 15:21
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That is an old telephone socket. You contact a TV-electrical company who will change this 30 year old connection for a new one.

However I understand Cablecom work over the TV co-axial cable network.

Maybe you should ask the owner what is supplied to your apartment.
You can also go to Fust and buy an adapter.
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Old 28.03.2011, 15:25
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This is the tv/radio socket on the wall. Do you think it has cable installation, or is it impossible to tell? (I don't know anything about this stuff)

It's not the socket that's the problem, it's what's connected at the other end of the cable that disappears into your wall.

This is an older model, but some people do get Internet on such sockets and some people who have newer ones don't get anything. You cannot tell what you can get just by looking at the socket. You should ask your landlord or a service provider to find out what will and what won't work.
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Re: Swiss telephone socket

How easy is it to rewire these 4 pin sockets yourself, ie go to the diy stall get a new telephone socket and connect it yourself.
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Old 19.04.2011, 21:29
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How easy is it to rewire these 4 pin sockets yourself, ie go to the diy stall get a new telephone socket and connect it yourself.
Very easy in principle.

I would still advise you to only do that as a last resort though as you're technically tampering with something that you shouldn't be touching and if it goes wrong you are liable. Better is to go to the electronics or DIY store and buy the adapter.
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How easy is it to rewire these 4 pin sockets yourself, ie go to the diy stall get a new telephone socket and connect it yourself.
The problem is with the cabling between your old socket and the distribution box out in the street. If it was just the socket the Cablecom technician would have changed it wouldn't he?

As I said on posting #3 you have to get the local TV company to wire you up to the street box. Swisscom do not do cabling! And I am not sure that Cablecom do either.

Have I explained it well enough?
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