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Old 31.05.2011, 15:47
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hope so, as I understand it its only the actual meter that blocks the signal.
Well, as the three phases are separate (except for the common N), I would expect them to work poorly or not at all if on different phases, but as I've never tried it (and do have different rooms on different phases, in fact my kitchen appliances are distributed across the three for load balancing purposes), so was wondering if anyone has?

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Old 31.05.2011, 15:53
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I have used the 75mbps and the 200mbps and they all suck. It works good one day and the next not so well. Used it also to stream iptv over and it always freezes up into pixels so I would just recommend putting cat-5 or 6e in your place and doing it the right way

not an option, otherwise I would.

I have read that they are prone to interference from things like washing machines etc (anything with a motor or that creates a lot of electrical noise) and that will reduce your bandwidth, we'll see over the weekend.
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Old 31.05.2011, 15:54
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Re: power line lan kits

my devolo wifi emitter plug is plugged in very close to the dish washer in the kitchen with all the other appliances around and its not affected but as i said it is on a different circuit to all the appliances
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Old 31.05.2011, 16:15
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hope so, as I understand it its only the actual meter that blocks the signal.
I'm using a ZyXEL PLA-400 between my Swisscom router and my Mac Pro but there's no blockage beyond the meter. I've taken one of my Powerline adaptors outside my apartment to test the connection and it worked fine from every outlet in all shared common areas of the building (outside of my apartment) plus it even connects on 3 of the 4 outlets located in an underground adjacent to my building.



The beauty of the Zyxel is that the unit itself doesn't plug directly into the outlet (tying up other receptacles), rather it comes with a short extension cord.
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Old 31.05.2011, 17:16
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Re: power line lan kits

I have the Smart+ 200Mbps Devolo ones - using the crapplet that Devolo supplies, they sustain throughput of over 100Mbps without a problem.

I stream to my TV from my server downstairs no problem.

I believe 3 phases is the limit; I had some old 14Mbps ones running in an apartment block going up two floors many years ago. At the moment, I extend my LAN down from the living room to the bomb shelter and connectivity is perfect. Wireless works everywhere else....
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Old 31.05.2011, 17:30
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I have 4 of these things spread all over the house and I cannot believe that they are on the same phase.....but I don't know for sure.

I can recommend to download the UI software from devolo.de. I had some connection problems every now and then but with the software you can reset the devices to factory settings, rename them (bed room, kitchen etc.) and you get a nice graphic overview of your grid.....cool. Makes you feel real techy and super important.
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Old 31.05.2011, 17:48
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Will they work if different rooms are on different phases?

Tom
I have one adaptor for the router, and then one for each floor of the house. The router is on a different phase to the others. The adaptors I use are also wifi hotspots, so I get good wifi coverage all over the house.
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Old 31.05.2011, 17:54
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Re: power line lan kits

I looked at their site, and there it states that it works best if all devices are on the same phase, but it will work with multiple phases (but speed and max distance will suffer).

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Old 06.06.2011, 10:35
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Re: power line lan kits

tried it over the weekend, everything worked fine, no messy setup etc they really are just plug and play, speeds where very good, way faster then the wifi we also have (can't remember off the top of my head what they where)
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Old 06.06.2011, 11:14
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Re: power line lan kits

I dont have experience with the Devolo Adapters, but years ago, I was doing level 2 Support, and we got a new customer in, who manufactured a similar product.
In the training, they said, that they had seen, that neighbors had been able to connect to each others network, if they had not activated the encryption. They also said, you could not use them behind an UPS, as the UPS filters the signal (and besides, the UPS they made had a different plug, so you could not use it anyway )

It was the cheapest of the cheapest, and they performed well enough, that you could show the PC's ping each other, but I have no experience in using them outside a test environment.

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Old 06.06.2011, 11:31
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Re: power line lan kits

they say your signal shouldn't be able to get past your electricity meter, but if you want to use encryption then its just a case of pushing the only button on the adapter

I'm as sceptical as they come, especially with IT related "plug and play" things, but these really are just that, I didn't have to do anything, no software to install, no need to read the manual etc.
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Old 06.06.2011, 14:07
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Re: power line lan kits

If you want to get your "geek on", you can read-up about IEEE1901(aka "home-plugs") and how they work here:

http://www.homeplug.org/home/

I bought a pair of Fujitsu-Siemens ones a few years ago, and they worked ok, but I never had the need for them really, and shelved them (look for them in the "for sale" section soon ).

A standard ethernet cable is the best way to go, but if you can't do that, then I'd probably take the home-plug as the next choice, as a way to reduce RF emissions in the home, and besides the wifi spectrum is getting over-crowded anyway. The only down-side of the home-plugs I saw was that they used constantly about 5W of power each, and got hot after a long time. I guess you can unplug them after use to avoid that tho.
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Old 06.06.2011, 14:46
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tried it over the weekend, everything worked fine, no messy setup etc they really are just plug and play, speeds where very good, way faster then the wifi we also have (can't remember off the top of my head what they where)
Be interesting to see what drop, if any, you are having in speed from the cable coming into your modem.

I use http://www.speedtest.net/ to test the speed.
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Old 07.06.2011, 16:50
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Re: power line lan kits

Does anyone know if you have to plug them directly into the wall socket or can you use a power strip and/or surge protector? I don't have enough outlets as it is already and this seems like it might block the other 2 outlets in my wall socket.

(I couldn't find this on the Devolo website.)
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Old 07.06.2011, 16:52
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Re: power line lan kits

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Does the devolo dLAN® adapter have to be plugged directly into the wall socket, or can it also be plugged into an extension or (switched) power strip?
Yes. In rare cases, power strips with integrated surge protectors can impair performance; therefore, devolo recommends plugging the dLAN® adapter directly into a wall outlet.
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Old 07.06.2011, 16:54
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Does anyone know if you have to plug them directly into the wall socket or can you use a power strip and/or surge protector? I don't have enough outlets as it is already and this seems like it might block the other 2 outlets in my wall socket.

(I couldn't find this on the Devolo website.)

they say you can't use a multi plug, but I tried and it worked fine, I read that they also work with surge protectors but you loose bandwidth.

you can also get the now with a pass through socket so no need to use multiplugs etc
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you can also get the now with a pass through socket so no need to use multiplugs etc
Yeah, I saw those at Interdiscount today as well, but figured I'd do a bit more research before pulling the trigger on one of these. Thanks for your help.
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Old 07.06.2011, 16:58
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you can also get the now with a pass through socket so no need to use multiplugs etc
I'd put money on them being one of those chunky buggers that block the other two sockets though.
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Old 07.06.2011, 17:01
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I'd put money on them being one of those chunky buggers that block the other two sockets though.

but you can still plug a multiplug into them the newer ones are smaller, the ones on offer are slightly bigger, but it only blocked 1 other socket on my normal wall plug (4 port plug)
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they say your signal shouldn't be able to get past your electricity meter, but if you want to use encryption then its just a case of pushing the only button on the adapter

I'm as sceptical as they come, especially with IT related "plug and play" things, but these really are just that, I didn't have to do anything, no software to install, no need to read the manual etc.

"I'm as sceptical as they come"
Me too - and I work with IT in the day job, albeit it's like brain surgery compared to "home IT".

But I'm thinking of "going Powerline" and this thread has been great info.
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