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Old 04.06.2011, 09:29
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Streaming media verus media storage or both?

So, I've been collecting a lot of old US TV series by various means (buying DVDs, downloading from various sites, etc etc etc).

I was going to to just hook up my laptop to the TV and watch the stuff there, which is what I have been doing.... But I start to need another drive for storage.

But then yesterday, I was in Media Markt and saw three products -

1. A hard drive that can provide 1.0 - 2.0 TB of storage - you load it from a PC (or MAC, I guess), and you can play all your media on your TV via HDMI connection. Something like the Western DIgital Elements Play.

2. Something that streams video - like apple TV or WD TV live media player - but you also have to have the media on something - like an external drive.

3. Sort of a combination of 1 & 2, like the WD TV Live hub. It has 1.0 TB storage and streaming ability. I guess the old Apple TV's were like this too.

I've also seen similar products from Dlink and LaCie. I bought a LaCie 2TB disk in April ago and it failed within 2 weeks, so I'm not going to buy another LaCie product for a while. I took the sucker apart, but no joy - it was the physical disk.
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But anyway, my thinking is that I don't need the streaming stuff right now, and since we have a mixed household (Apple and PC), we can't decide which way to go, so I'm looking at option 1 - I have the stuff, I just want to store it in one place and hook it up to a TV.

Anyone have any experience with this sort of stuff? What do you all think?

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Re: Streaming media verus media storage or both?

I have/had this (selling now because I bought a new SAT receiver that has the same thing built in it):
http://www.englishforum.ch/1209344-post11.html

With that, you can stream media from any PC on the network (that has a UPNP media server, like Twonky Media or similar). Or you can connect directly a drive to the USB port and watch anything on the USB drive. That covers all the options.

Of course you can buy something similar that also has a built in hard drive, but I think USB external is better, because it's more flexible: easier to upgrade/swap/etc.
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I have/had this (selling now because I bought a new SAT receiver that has the same thing built in it):
http://www.englishforum.ch/1209344-post11.html

With that, you can stream media from any PC on the network (that has a UPNP media server, like Twonky Media or similar). Or you can connect directly a drive to the USB port and watch anything on the USB drive. That covers all the options.

Of course you can buy something similar that also has a built in hard drive, but I think USB external is better, because it's more flexible: easier to upgrade/swap/etc.
ok, thanks. i won't buy lacie due to previous problems, but thanks for the info.
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Old 04.06.2011, 10:06
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Re: Streaming media verus media storage or both?

Theres some interesting NAS drives out there, like this one with a UPNP media server and BitTorrent client built in it:
https://shop.digitec.ch/en/s1/buffal...age-nas-212009
You can stream over the LAN or connect directly with USB.
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Re: Streaming media verus media storage or both?

Does your TV have a lan connection?
What I have been doing is streaming video from my laptop
to my TV via my local network.
For extra storage I just use a USB external Hard Drive.This can
either be connected to the laptop or to the Netgear Router.
This netgear router has a built in Media Server and really supports
HD video streaming.

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Re: Streaming media verus media storage or both?

I have a WDTV Media player (2nd Gen) and it does not stream...I love it but streaming is never something I've considered due the lag that is inevitable...Lots of info & messageboards available re: the Live version that includes streaming, if you're interested
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I have a WDTV Media player (2nd Gen) and it does not stream...I love it but streaming is never something I've considered due the lag that is inevitable...Lots of info & messageboards available re: the Live version that includes streaming, if you're interested
Yeah Streaming lag is a pain in the rear!

For my 2 cents I find hardly any of the technology an "elegant" solution bar one, that being the Apple TV. Now even this has downfalls but with a external machine / hard drive it does allow good distribution over the network, the ability to pickup itunes libraries from other machines and sources even iphone and pad. It outputs HD TV via HDMI and just kinda works!

Oh it's cheap as chips too!
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Re: Streaming media verus media storage or both?

I have a WDTV Live and its a dream. I have it connected via LAN to the wifi router so I can watch Youtube and other streaming services on it. The best thing about it is streaming media on my laptop in the other room via wifi, so I dont have to physically transfer the files from my laptop to external memory and back to the WDTV live unit. There is no lag at all once the stream starts, I can even fast forward without lag. The only lag is starting up the file, which takes about 3-5 seconds max. There is no doubt that the WDTV Live is an awesome buy for the price. Do it.
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Re: Streaming media verus media storage or both?

The good with going Western Digital, too, is that the support by the manufacturer in updates/firmware etc. is better than many competitors...Plus, the landscape of these NMTs are changing constantly...In other words, there's always something new out there

I'd check out AVS Forum for some options to consider as well as a healthy number of reviews from members etc.

I'm in the market for something new since I've had this old one for a few years now...It just works which is great but the UI is sooo dated and I'd like to check something new out
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Agreed - the WDTV Live automatic updates are very good, that is if you have it connected to the router/internet. I think I'm up to about my fifth firmware version. The main updates are in the online media categories, as now there are more online sources than what it originally came with. For example Facebook is on there now (though its pretty useless without a wireless keyboard) and a whole bunch of radio stations, other video streaming channels.
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Re: Streaming media verus media storage or both?

I use another route - cumbersome, but it works

1. "Obtain" required shows.

2. Transfer to HDD (Freecom 500GB, formatted in FAT32).

3. Plug into PS3

4. Job done

I prefer not to stream - with all that is going on within the house, and various gadgets hungry for b/w, the signal can drop, and cause the picture to stutter - I prefer to hard wire if that is the option.

I hope that this helps
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thanks for all of your replies. we decided to go with the wd elements play and avoid the streaming issue for now. there will be a bit of time invested in putting all the dvd's and downloads on the box, but that's ok. i can hook the box up to either tv via hdmi, and that's not a prob either. i think we'll revisit streaming later.
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thanks for all of your replies. we decided to go with the wd elements play and avoid the streaming issue for now. there will be a bit of time invested in putting all the dvd's and downloads on the box, but that's ok. i can hook the box up to either tv via hdmi, and that's not a prob either. i think we'll revisit streaming later.
Well, if I were you, I'd consider going with the regular WDTV or the Live, instead...Getting one with a built in HD limits you should sectors on the drive go bad or you have HD failure
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WDTV Live is the best solution. Trust me.
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Yeah, for now that's probably the best in terms of being most consumer friendly combined with specs/pricing
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Re: Streaming media verus media storage or both?

good points... thanks... but I bought the unit a couple of days ago - just waiting for it to arrive. I will probably keep backups of all the crap I've acquired too. If I'm wrong, well, then I'll get the live later on. Thanks again though.
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