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The beauty of this is, once you define your Hard disk as a source to your apple tv, you won't need to think about formats again; you can just drop anything on that hard disk and apple tv will play it without restrictions.
Ah... the mists clear, so no need to use toast to convert WMV's etc BEFORE moving over to ATV, would that replace Filezilla or would I still need that?
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Old 16.06.2011, 16:23
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I don't have a guide, and I've never tried a Time Capsule, don't have one. I use UnRaid, a totally awesome RAID 4 system that runs off a USB drive. I have a 6 TB server that I just point PLEX at and it works perfectly!! I'm not using an ATV2 yet, I have a Mac Mini as my media server, but soon we'll have another TV in another room and have been looking at an ATV2 as the media client on that TV.
that's because it's not possible in the current form. Plex is currently only able to act as an in-between to the atv and therefore still requires a computer of sorts to actually do the grunt work.

and, that's also why this works with your mac mini - it won't with the atv2...
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Ah... the mists clear, so no need to use toast to convert WMV's etc BEFORE moving over to ATV, would that replace Filezilla or would I still need that?
exactly, it will replace anything or everything you will just need to copy the file to the hard drive.
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Plex is currently only able to act as an in-between to the atv and therefore still requires a computer of sorts to actually do the grunt work.
Thanks Fridge, you made my day, I was suspicious of myself for not being able to remove my macbook from the equation.
So still XBMC is the only system which works w/o a computer. The sole negative side is MKV format, that's it.
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I've installed PLEX on my macbook and atv2, but atv2 only sees macbook as a server, I cannot add any other address (like my TC) to the server list.
and how were you running the tc as a server? if it was smb, then that can be the issue. the tc doesn't actually use smb, it's based on a netbsd client, so the workaround kinda bogs everything down. There's a project to use afp which is apparently little smoother, though somewhat redundant.

Are you having issues with all mkv files or just 1080P/large ones? Because mine's running them fine... so far.
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Old 16.06.2011, 16:33
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and how were you running the tc as a server? if it was smb, then that can be the issue. the tc doesn't actually use smb, it's based on a netbsd client, so the workaround kinda bogs everything down. There's a project to use afp which should be a little smoother.

Are you having issues with all mkv files or just 1080P/large ones? Because mine's running them fine... so far.
I use SMB That's how I defined it to XBMC and works perfectly. The problem arose when I tried to define it to PLEX on ATV2 as a server.

Mainly my issues are with 1080p MKVs (or large files), the other ones are playing okay after the nightly build.
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Old 16.06.2011, 16:39
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I use SMB That's how I defined it to XBMC and works perfectly. The problem arose when I tried to define it to PLEX on ATV2 as a server.

Mainly my issues are with 1080p MKVs (or large files), the other ones are playing okay after the nightly build.
Yep, so I'm about to go through the same thing. I haven't had time to really get it going yet, but I'm also using smb.

unfortunately it doesn't look like there's actually a good solution yet, though a few people are saying that setting up an ftp has helped.
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Yep, so I'm about to go through the same thing. I haven't had time to really get it going yet, but I'm also using smb.

unfortunately it doesn't look like there's actually a good solution yet.
Please let me know if you find a solution. I will tell you if I have one
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That's one of the subjects in the main discussion. There are 2 options XBMC and PLEX. XBMC can be used without the computer in between, whereas I couldn't do this with PLEX. But PLEX is more fancy in the look than XBMC (shows video abstracts, pictures..etc..etc - downloads from itnernet) and plays MKV files. If I find a way to define my TC as a server to the PLEX, I will definitely quit using XBMC.
Here's the link for downloading PLEX for your MAC/Windows:
http://www.plexapp.com/
and here's the link for installing PLEX on ATV2:
http://www.appletvhacks.net/2010/11/...n-apple-tv-2g/
and of course how to JB it:
http://www.appletvhacks.net/2011/04/...ss-untethered/
Tried but got stuck to the screen 'Waiting to enter into DFU mode'. Looked into various forums for solution but couldn't make it work.. any suggessions?
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Old 20.06.2011, 08:40
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Tried but got stuck to the screen 'Waiting to enter into DFU mode'. Looked into various forums for solution but couldn't make it work.. any suggessions?
Make sure you plug in the USB before taking out the power. If you lose power it won't go into dfu.
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that's because it's not possible in the current form. Plex is currently only able to act as an in-between to the atv and therefore still requires a computer of sorts to actually do the grunt work.

and, that's also why this works with your mac mini - it won't with the atv2...
Sorry but I'm not sure what you mean by the "grunt work" do you mean the scraping of artwork and the database of the movies? I already have a server that does the database, the ATV2 will only need to stream the movies, that's all the version of plex for ATV2 will do as far as I am aware, that's all it's supposed to do right now.
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Old 20.06.2011, 09:51
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Sorry but I'm not sure what you mean by the "grunt work" do you mean the scraping of artwork and the database of the movies? I already have a server that does the database, the ATV2 will only need to stream the movies, that's all the version of plex for ATV2 will do as far as I am aware, that's all it's supposed to do right now.
as plex on apple tv is only a thin client at the moment, it means that you will either need the full version of plex running from your server, or a computer acting as an intermediary. In this case, the apple tv is only displaying the content while the computer or tv are actually decoding and playing the file.

If you have a server that can host upnp or the like, then great - but the time capsule (and most other basic nas devises) can't.
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Re: General discussion about Apple TV & Apple TV 2

i have the first and second gen apple tvs.

The first gen now sites idle. I have thought about jailbreaking it and seeing what can be done, but to be honest it would only be for fun as my playstation 3 handles all of me media needs much more effortlessly.

Mostly i use it for watching photos from my mac. In this respect it works well using apples airplay system. I am very much looking forward to the complete mirroring experience between my ipad and apple tv when iOS5 is released in the autumn.

Aside from that, what i am really waiting for is the third generation appleTV, which i am hoping will be an actual television with the appleTV capabilities built in. There are often rumours around that apple is working on this, which would certainly bring the living room fully into apples focus rather than the "hobby" which they have often called the appleTV's so far.
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Please let me know if you find a solution. I will tell you if I have one
So I've finally had a bit of free time to get this going.

I was also having problems with mkv crashes and larger avi/mp4 types stuttering along. After playing around for a bit though, it's playing all file tyopes and sizes with no problems at all. I suspect that it's not playing full 1080P and is instead down-grading to 720P, but at least it's working.

you'll need the latest nightly build, turn on hardware acceleration, switch audio output from hdmi to analogue (only the settings, it'll still go through hdmi) and switch the a/v syncing option to "video clock".
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Re: General discussion about Apple TV & Apple TV 2

Hi,

I have both gen1 (gray) and gen2 (black) Apple TVs, both 'hacked' or 'jail broken' with ATVflash from Firecore. In my case, the gen2 is actually sitting idle and I still use the gen1 much more. The main reason is a program called Sapphire (included with ATVflash), which runs on Macs and the gen1 Apple TV (which is a Mac itself). It scans all files and organizes them into a nice gui, with a text synopsis, groups them by season (for TV shows), and imports a nice image. Unfortunately the gen2 Apple TV can't support it.

I have not been able to get XMBC or Plex to work quite as well as Sapphire (on either machine). Plex doesn't work at all with my gen2. It sees my Mac on the network running the Plex server but chokes whenever I pick a file to play. Any advice would be appreciated.

I would like to know if anyone knows any decent websites for downloading subtitles (specifically German)? Unfortunately, Google turns up a lot of junk. I like to rip my English language DVDs to the Apple TV, and then play it back with a German subtitle file. It works great to host a 'movie night' for my Swiss and German colleagues.

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Re: General discussion about Apple TV & Apple TV 2

I had hoped to utilise either of my appletv's to play high quality lossless music into my amplifier but unfortunately it downsamples the data.
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I had hoped to utilise either of my appletv's to play high quality lossless music into my amplifier but unfortunately it downsamples the data.
Yeah, I read somewhere about the 48khz - 44.1khz thing or something like that, but previously, I was using the airport express (linked via optical cable, which does not downsample) and with the ATV2 I have not been able to tell the difference in sound quality. I have a reasonable hi-fi system. I could hear a very small difference between compressed (128) and lossless audio though.
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Yeah, I read somewhere about the 48khz - 44.1khz thing or something like that, but previously, I was using the airport express (linked via optical cable, which does not downsample) and with the ATV2 I have not been able to tell the difference in sound quality. I have a reasonable hi-fi system. I could hear a very small difference between compressed (128) and lossless audio though.
Im pretty sure the airport express is limited to 44.1khz as well....

https://discussions.apple.com/thread...art=0&tstart=0

hence why you might not hear a difference.

edit: the headphone out of a macbook pro is however also a digital optical out and this can handle 24/96.
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Im pretty sure the airport express is limited to 44.1khz as well....

https://discussions.apple.com/thread...art=0&tstart=0

hence why you might not hear a difference.

edit: the headphone out of a macbook pro is however also a digital optical out and this can handle 24/96.
Maybe I am confused - limited to 44.1 is still better than upsampled to 48, no? Isn't that what the poster in that thread you referred to is asking, i.e., he wants 44.1 and not 48?
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Re: General discussion about Apple TV & Apple TV 2

If you have any very hi res downloads like 24/96, the appletv will downsample these.
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