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Re: Life without the Beeb?

But don't hurry into any remote or cloaked VPN thing too hastily, for BBC iPlayer, as the website says it is coming to us soon - you can sign up for early warning emails as well.
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Re: Life without the Beeb?

On a British pension in Chuffs, 120.000 would be a bit far fetched, no Chance would be a fine thing, ahahah. (A British sense of humour helps though).
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Old 16.06.2011, 22:21
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It seems that "how to use the iPlayer" is the techy version of "Can I survive on 120,000 CHF?"

BBC iPlayer works!
Yes, but that was expatshield, which did not work for me. In addition to which, it was terribly invasive once I had tried to use it, in as much as it was difficult for my new provider to work over it. They had, however, encountered the problem before and were able to overcome it and provide a brilliant service.
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Old 16.06.2011, 22:37
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Re: Life without the Beeb?

VPN is the way, you effectively piggy back on to a UK connection, it'll work for anything that requires a uk ip address.

All of the countries in the world have allocated IP addresses and the easiest way to stop unwanted streaming is to check via IP address.

Therefore if you want to watch American Basketball, get a vpn to America
Mexico, get a mexican one
UK, UK one.

V easy to set up and tops it's about 10 British pounds a month.
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Re: Life without the Beeb?

Cheers all. In the meantime, our Cable works very well.
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Old 16.06.2011, 22:42
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Re: Life without the Beeb?

I pay 6Fr/month to get some UK TV channels on my analog cablecom box (plus the 24Fr or whatever the monthly charge is in my nebenkosten for the socket, plus internet).

I lived in Stuttgart for a year and didn't watch TV at all, but I do like having it here even if it's mainly to watch Simpsons and Family Guy that I could download anyway.

Oh, and I use TOR and UK "exit nodes" for iPlayer and their ilk.
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Old 16.06.2011, 23:13
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Re: Life without the Beeb?

The Beeb? Luxury!

When I arrived here in 1989, there wasn't any internet and no satellite TV in English - except from some really seedy stuff like 'Super Channel' (which wasn't) and CNN. That was your lot in English.

As for radio, it was only BBC World Service on short wave fading in and out. We had to make our own amusement - BUT we were happy...
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Re: Life without the Beeb?

Funny that - never missed Swiss TV when I went to live in UK in 1970, wonder why, lol.
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Old 17.06.2011, 00:01
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Re: Life without the Beeb?

For VPN I started using www.ukivpn.com, both U.K and U.S. unlimited service (combined) for 6.50 GBP/month. So far so good. And the customer service has been great- very detailed instructions for setting it up aimed at non-techie folks, and they respond to emails within 24 hours max.
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Re: Life without the Beeb?

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I used to love the telly - I grew up watching hours and hours of it, in between getting muddy in the brook and learning how to program a computer (fat lot of good the last one ever did me), and continued to enjoy it well into adulthood.

Then I just got bored of it. First of all, news and current affairs programmes started to irritate me (they're all so bloody biased), then documentaries got on my nerves (ooh, tramping Roman feet! Oooh, let's ask a dumb question then spend half an hour watching scientists trying to find the answer when I can read it on Wikipedia in thirty seconds!), then the persistent assault of crappy celebrity 'reality' shows ground me down, and, by the end, even Top Gear and Come Dine With Me didn't do it any more.

After failing to turn the telly on for a whole six months, I finally cancelled the contract last year, and haven't missed it once.

Now, when I'm visiting family who have the telly on, I find myself reaching for a book to read.

It's weird. If you'd told me all of this when I still lived in England, I'd have laughed in your face. But then I didn't have mountains to look at, and youtube wasn't half as good as it is now.

Funny how you adapt, isn't it?
Well, if you get muddy in the brook and then program your computer I can see why it wouldn't be very helpful. Computers can be very techy about water and muddy stuff.

I now have to use the BBCAmerica channel for my Beeb fix, although occasionally I wonder if PBS isn't better for that as BBCA has commercials and I haven't gotten used to Dr Who with commercial interruptions. Not to mention the desperately and insipid attempts to try and explain how it works to the stupids over here. I mean seriously, if one is watching Dr. Who then I think it is safe to assume that one gets it. No?
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Re: Life without the Beeb?

I actually find the British tv very very good! Maybe not the soap but definitely documentary like health shows, etc.

I never thought I would say that! But I only watch British TV since I lived in CH.

In our temporary apartment now, we just have spanish and catalan channels. I don't bother to open the TV anymore. I have the sun, the city, the beach, parks and Tapas to explore!
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The Beeb? Luxury!

When I arrived here in 1989, there wasn't any internet and no satellite TV in English - except from some really seedy stuff like 'Super Channel' (which wasn't) and CNN. That was your lot in English.

As for radio, it was only BBC World Service on short wave fading in and out. We had to make our own amusement - BUT we were happy...
World Service? Luxury. We couldn't even get that here in the mountains.

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Old 17.06.2011, 08:30
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Re: Life without the Beeb?

For those living in remote areas, I'd heard that Trevor Bayliss was in the process of introducing a TV - but I think this was a wind-up.
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Old 17.06.2011, 08:37
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Re: Life without the Beeb?

While I watch some shows on BBC, I mainly watch RSI or the Italian channels.

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Old 17.06.2011, 08:41
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Re: Life without the Beeb?

You often have to question the quality and content of some of the Beeb's programming, though - it sometimes makes me wonder why I pay my Billag in the first place.
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Old 17.06.2011, 08:48
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Re: Life without the Beeb?

Well... TV for me means holidays, since I gave up on the television 7 years ago.

Though I do agree there are many nice shows around (yes, I'm a Dr. House fan... ) I really can't stand the 15 min commercial breaks or the constant need to zap to actually get something nice. And the fashionable female moderators scare me, with their strong lipstick and gigantic nightmarish mouths that seem to want to swallow me.

I don't know why, but television has now the opposite reaction it is supposed to have: instead of relaxing me into a dead brain comsumer zombie, it makes me nervous and angry.

So I just call daddy (who is tv fan nr.1) to find what new series are out and wait till DVDs are out Or I just open the husband's computer and watch the hundred BBC documentaries he's got there He's a BBC nerd too
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Re: Life without the Beeb?

Does nobody use Zattoo - http://zattoo.com/

It's free for SD/Low res viewing (albeit with ads in the sidebar) but you do have to sign up. HD is available without ads, but there's a monthly fee involved. I think there's a recording function, but I not sure if that only comes with the paid subscription

Last time I checked all the BBC and ITV channels were there - well the free to air ones anyway.

Plus you don't need to configure any proxies/VPNs

Works for me, but I only ever watch TV on my computer, and then it's only for the news. Also it's only live TV, so you just get what's on at the time, you know, like TV 10 years ago. It's not an iPlayer substitute.
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Old 17.06.2011, 09:02
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Does nobody use Zattoo - http://zattoo.com/

It's free for SD/Low res viewing (albeit with ads in the sidebar) but you do have to sign up. HD is available without ads, but there's a monthly fee involved. I think there's a recording function, but I not sure if that only comes with the paid subscription

Last time I checked all the BBC and ITV channels were there - well the free to air ones anyway.

Plus you don't need to configure any proxies/VPNs

Works for me, but I only ever watch TV on my computer, and then it's only for the news. Also it's only live TV, so you just get what's on at the time, you know, like TV 10 years ago. It's not an iPlayer substitute.
I have and like Zattoo (free version).

Unfortunately, my old Dell-boy laptop (running XP) really struggles with live video streaming (also You Tube). Fine for the first few minutes, then the processor (Centrino Duo) max.'s out at 100% resulting in picture slowing, jumping and eventual freezing.

But in the same location, I have a 2nd TV and Cablecom Digital box - so I'll survive.
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Re: Life without the Beeb?

Good substitute for BBC though is ARTE!!!
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Old 17.06.2011, 09:58
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Re: Life without the Beeb?

i spend too much each year with cablecom and billag. plus i simply do not trust cablecom to bill me correctly. I have raised the idea with the gf a few times about maybe getting rid of it all... honestly i feel i could do without, i can download the few shows im normally interested in.

however, so far i am met with resistance to the idea.
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