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Old 18.08.2011, 13:48
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Tracking an IP Address

Hello all,

I am sure there are some immensely tech savvy people on here, and i'd appreciate some help.

I need to find the mobile phone number / person associated with an IP address. I have used the usual tools online, and can resolve it as far as the phone company and city. Any help in narrowing this down would be appreciated.

It is a Swiss IP address / phone company, so I would like some advice on how to proceed in narrowing it down further.

In case anyone thinks I am looking to use this for nefarious purposes, I can assure you I am not, I am looking to exonerate a friend who has been put in an awful position by the individual associated with this IP Address.

Many thanks in advance for any help you can give, it would mean a lot.

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Old 18.08.2011, 13:59
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Re: Tracking an IP Address

Hard to say since you can't tell if it's a static or dynamic IP and it's very doubtful that the ISP will provide you with personal information in either case without a court order. You'd be better going through legal/police channels if there's a case in this situation.
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Thanks poptart. I would guess it is a dynamic IP, given that it comes from a mobile phone. But with a timestamp, the company in question could certainly verify who it was, was just wondering if there was a better / quicker way.

Not looking to incriminate the person that did it unless we have to, would prefer just to get proof of something.
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Re: Tracking an IP Address

Its quite hard to track. Sometimes even the location may not be right. For instance, if the user is shown to be logged from place X it need not necessarily mean the user is from town X ..X shown in the analytics can be the ISPs hub and the user may actually be in town Y.

Web Analytics are very approximate and never accurate unless a legal powerful body requires information.
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Old 18.08.2011, 14:24
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Re: Tracking an IP Address

More or less what other people have said. If the IP is registered to an ISP / phone company or such, it's unlikely in the extreme that the user of that IP would be accessible through public means. The ISP could check their DHCP logs to identify who they gave the address to at that point in time, but they won't do so without a court order.
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Unfortunately, you'll only get that data with a court order ( unless you've got police/security service connections...)
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Old 18.08.2011, 14:34
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Correct, this is protected information unless the IP address is a public one and then it only leads you to the NAT or routing setup that will hide the actual device.
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Old 18.08.2011, 14:37
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what phone company is it?
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Old 18.08.2011, 14:41
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Re: Tracking an IP Address

If you have found the ISP, you could try and contact them. They are the only ones, who will have a IP<->Name table for a given time (actually that would probably be many tables)
If you can come up with a good enough story, and be convincing enough, you might be able to scam your way to the name..
Something along the lines of calling direct to a business intelligence guy or a data analyst and say that his boss ok'ed it or something.
It is not hard to find this info for them, but it might be illegal.
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If you have found the ISP, you could try and contact them. They are the only ones, who will have a IP<->Name table for a given time (actually that would probably be many tables)
If you can come up with a good enough story, and be convincing enough, you might be able to scam your way to the name..
Something along the lines of calling direct to a business intelligence guy or a data analyst and say that his boss ok'ed it or something.
It is not hard to find this info for them, but it might be illegal.

lol no might be about it, it will be illegal
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I guess going to the police is the only way to resolve this. Not sure how interested they would be in dealing with it though - how illegal is email hacking? (I am not advocating doing it to find the person out, the person did this, that is how we have his/her IP address)
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I guess going to the police is the only way to resolve this. Not sure how interested they would be in dealing with it though - how illegal is email hacking? (I am not advocating doing it to find the person out, the person did this, that is how we have his/her IP address)
I dont know about here, but in Denmark the crime has to be quite serious before access to records is allowed. I think it has to be more than 3 years jail sentence for it.
Probably something similar here. I dont see email hacking qualify for a warrant, unless there are other factors involved as well.
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How about a change of tack...

Is there a register online that stores what websites various IPs are accessing? So say I had a date and time that the IP was accessing the email, could I also see what sites it accessed in the surrounding 20 mins say?
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I guess going to the police is the only way to resolve this.
Highly likely, but unless there's been a "real" serious crime in connection with this, I wouldn't build my hopes up
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Highly likely, but unless there's been a "real" serious crime in connection with this, I wouldn't build my hopes up
That's a real shame. It means people can ruin lives without consequence.

How serious is a crime would you say impersonating someone is, in order to frame them for doing something relatively illegal. Serious enough for deeper investigation?
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How about a change of tack...

Is there a register online that stores what websites various IPs are accessing? So say I had a date and time that the IP was accessing the email, could I also see what sites it accessed in the surrounding 20 mins say?
Got any friends that work for Google?
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Re: Tracking an IP Address

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How about a change of tack...

Is there a register online that stores what websites various IPs are accessing? So say I had a date and time that the IP was accessing the email, could I also see what sites it accessed in the surrounding 20 mins say?
The internet service provider MIGHT keep such a log, but again this information will only be released under a court order.

It's pretty much impossible for an individual to track an individual with only an IP address.
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That's a real shame. It means people can ruin lives without consequence.
Yes!
There are no law or legal texts suppose to deal with that.
No ones cares about your friend's life ruined.

Best course of action is to start depressing now, or maybe to create a topic in the complain forum.


There's no "justice" or legal system nowadays!

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Old 18.08.2011, 15:07
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Re: Tracking an IP Address

OR...

http://www.admin.ch/ch/f/rs/311_0/index2.html

Find the "text of law" to find accurately what rights your friend has.

Fill an official police report, which will have to be followed up by the "civil servents" (ie police).

PS: There's many many possible "breach of law" when MR X hacked the email, including "Titre 3 Infractions contre líhonneur et contre le domaine secret " (infraction against honor or privacy) etc...
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That's a real shame. It means people can ruin lives without consequence.
If it's been that serious, then do take it to the the police.

But go prepared - document the entire affair beforehand, get it translated into German, and then go to the police. Don't just try to explain in English over the counter...
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