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legality of watching TV from internet

Hello.

So, I found this cool website livetv.ru which apparently is a Russian website but you can stream many TV channels like ABC, ilive, etc from it.
I wonder if it is legal or not... Plus my friend told me that he uses sopcast without any problem. So do you know what the law says about it?
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Old 09.06.2012, 01:02
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Re: legality of watching TV from internet

If you've paid your Billag - you're safe.
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Re: legality of watching TV from internet

So you have to pay even for watching TV from internet. right?
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Re: legality of watching TV from internet

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So you have to pay even for watching TV from internet. right?
Yep ........
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Re: legality of watching TV from internet

Isn't the question more about the legality of watching TV (including pay/cable channels) via a website that probably hasn't paid licence fees/royalties as a re-broadcaster?

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Re: legality of watching TV from internet

yes, exactly. does that make any difference?
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Re: legality of watching TV from internet

This is Switzerland, why would you need to worry about watching streamed TV content from a Russian site?

What do you realistically think will happen to you?

Just watch what you want.
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Re: legality of watching TV from internet

Receiving stolen content isn't a crime in Switzerland. You're probably supporting some Russian crime syndicate though.
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Re: legality of watching TV from internet

I intend to use a Raspberry with Kodi to watch some Tv streams from outside CH. I know that is legal to download even copyrighted content but sopcast streams is like torrents while you are watching the online TV you are also uploading so i'm a bit afraid to use it.

Can anyone clarify this thing to me ?
The streams are not broadcasted officialy by tv stations.

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Re: legality of watching TV from internet

Why worry when you're based in Bucharest. Welcome to the forum.
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Forget about my location
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Re: legality of watching TV from internet

If its not Russian propoganda then you are safe. Otherwise the NSA will come down on you hard and you will be put on the " watch" list
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Hello.

So, I found this cool website livetv.ru which apparently is a Russian website but you can stream many TV channels like ABC, ilive, etc from it.
I wonder if it is legal or not... Plus my friend told me that he uses sopcast without any problem. So do you know what the law says about it?
Thanks

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Re: legality of watching TV from internet

I use Kodi for last two years here and never had any problems, I use it to stream everything from Tv shows and movies to sky sports and other channels. If someone arrest me I'll let you know
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Old 11.10.2016, 21:40
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Re: legality of watching TV from internet

Like everything here it is not so simple.

If you use a computer and have registered for a program designed for watching TV like zattoo then you need to pay for a licence from Billag, even if you do not watch TV.

If you use a Media program like Real player to watch TV and are not registered with a program designed for watching TV then you do not need a licence.

I suppose they will close this loophole sooner or later
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Old 11.10.2016, 22:28
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Re: legality of watching TV from internet

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If you use a computer and have registered for a program designed for watching TV like zattoo then you need to pay for a licence from Billag, even if you do not watch TV.
IIRC this only applies if you have a for-pay subscription, simply having a zattoo account doesnt' fall under "must pay Billag for TV". I strongly suggest to verify this on billag.ch though, they (used to) make this rather clear.
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Re: legality of watching TV from internet

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IIRC this only applies if you have a for-pay subscription, simply having a zattoo account doesnt' fall under "must pay Billag for TV". I strongly suggest to verify this on billag.ch though, they (used to) make this rather clear.
I don't think that's the case now. Happy to be corrected, if anyone can find evidence for that assertion, but I think the (low) bar is to have a TV subscription — whether paid or not.

I just checked the Billag website (in English):

"What is classified as a receiving device?

Receiving devices include the following:

- radios (including car radios), mobile phones with radio reception and computers (including tablets) with internet access, television and or TV-Box with integrated radio reception
- televisions, mobile phones with television reception and computers (including tablets) with internet access, insofar as you have an account (including free accounts) with an internet television provider"

So, yep, free subscriptions get you over the Billag bar. I'm fact, you may not even need a subscription ("account" is a bit vague).
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Re: legality of watching TV from internet

You're right, memory was lacking. I would think that "account" is equivalent to subscription, so using for instance zattoo makes you liable to pay, even if you don't use it.

The important thing imho is though that having the hardware alone doesn't qualify, you alse need to have access to tv signals, so to speak.
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Re: legality of watching TV from internet

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You're right, memory was lacking. I would think that "account" is equivalent to subscription, so using for instance zattoo makes you liable to pay, even if you don't use it.

The important thing imho is though that having the hardware alone doesn't qualify, you alse need to have access to tv signals, so to speak.
Yes, agreed. This is all covered (about 1,000 times over) in the giant, long-running and extremely repetitive (but surprisingly on-topic) "Do I have to pay Billag?" thread...

Happy 10th birthday, Do I have to get a TV licence from Billag?!
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Re: legality of watching TV from internet

Feel free to call me an idiot but just wanted make sure: is streaming movies ok?
(iPhone to TV via tvassist app)
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