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neromancer 23.08.2012 02:09

Which mobile phone provider? Swisscom, Sunrise, Orange....
 
Hi,

Me and a Swiss guy have been busy beavering away, and we've developed a new mobile phone and contract comparison solution for the Swiss market.

If you've just arrived, then I think it could really help you out finding a good phone and contract.

It's called iCompare and is available online and on your iPhone or Android:
http://icompare.ch, iPhone, Android

If you've just arrived, then I think it could really help you out finding a good phone and contract. I remember when I first got here and it was so difficult to know which provider I should go with, and it's an important decision, since you'll be locked in for 1-2 years if you get a contract.

I tried Comparis, but they really concentrate on insurances (it's the place to go for health insurance) - iCompare is specialized for mobile and we aim to be fair independent.

I'd be really interested in any feedback that anyone could give, so we can improve and provider an even better service to the expats.

Thanks,
Rich

Hybrid 12.09.2012 20:48

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Great website, i signed up just to say that!

neromancer 12.09.2012 23:03

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Hey Hybrid - thanks for the feedback - really great to hear that!

We're working hard to get in support for the rest of the providers. We also want to soon have international and roaming which is important for us expats!

Castro 12.09.2012 23:05

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Nice site, although I couldn't see any data only tariffs (for dongles, iPads etc..)

neromancer 12.09.2012 23:21

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No, we don't support the tablet/internet devices (or the tariffs for these) yet.

But we have got all the phones, and we'll have the iPhone 5 and it's tariffs available for comparison as soon as it's out.

There's still a lot for us to do... check back now and then and hopefully you'll see some progress!

blauburgunder 14.09.2012 16:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by neromancer (Post 1661801)
Hey Hybrid - thanks for the feedback - really great to hear that!

We're working hard to get in support for the rest of the providers. We also want to soon have international and roaming which is important for us expats!

This is what I was going to ask about as well. For me, what I really want to compare are tariffs between service providers, if I am going to be calling a particular country often.

In my case, I want to know who has the best deal/plan if I am routinely calling the US.

neromancer 14.09.2012 16:51

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Yeah, my parents live in New Zealand so I know what it's like to have to call international. We're working on it and I'll update the post when I have any news on international support.

PVDM 16.09.2012 19:13

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Hi,

Just arrived in CH too.

Here's how I'm preparing my final choice:

1. I bought a prepaid card from SwissCom, Coopmobile (using Orange network) and Lebara (using Sunrise network). With each of those SIM cards, I check the quality of each network at different locations, and I test the speeds of Internet with Speed Test (app available for Android and iPhone).

2. Once I know the best network essentially for Internet, I will choose the best offer based on Internet maximum GB available per month, average download speed and price. Why Internet as most important? Because nearly all my calls are now VOIP and I use Internet a lot for surfing and mail on my smartphone.

3. As of today, the best combination seems to be the new sunrise24.ch offer: 49 SFR flat fee per month for unlimited calls to all networks in CH and fixes lined, and unlimitied SMS and Internet. The other providers are nowhere near, mostly double price. I get 3 to 6 Mbps download and upload on Sunrise network on average.

Hope this helps!

Hybrid 16.09.2012 19:23

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pvdm, i agree that's a great plan granted your a hardcore user. however, i am not a heavy internet user and until i have a large group of friends i am not gonna come anywhere near needing unlimited calls/SMS.

there are some truly cheap prepaid companies out there (lebara, yallo), but im probably gonna settle for the orange me + young account which gives me free calls/sms to other orange #'s, 30 min to other lines, and 1 Gb data without contract for chf35 (chf25 with contract :msnnerd:)

neromancer 16.09.2012 19:53

Re: Which mobile phone provider? Swisscom, Sunrise, Orange....
 
Quote:

the best combination seems to be the new sunrise24.ch offer: 49 SFR flat fee per month
I agree, this is a great deal - just be aware that if you want/need to call the hotline it'll cost you CHF 1.50 / min. The normal Sunrise line is free, but they don't support sunrise24 on that line.

For coverage, Swisscom is the best, but you pay a premium for that. Sunrise has generally good coverage, but it is patchy in the city sometimes. For instance in the Lion pub in ZH I can't get 3G on my Sunrise account, but with Swisscom it's full 3G there. Still, Sunrise is not a bad option.

FriendlyKiwi 16.09.2012 20:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by neromancer (Post 1665025)
For coverage, Swisscom is the best, but you pay a premium for that.

SOMETIMES

I know locations with no Swisscom signal, patchy Sunrise Edge signal, and full strength Orange 3G signal. And I know others where Sunrise beat everyone else.

Everything depends on your location: the best mobile phone comparison website would be the one that showed 3G coverage in the areas that matter to YOU.

Who cares about price when you have no signal?

neromancer 16.09.2012 21:15

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Yeah, can't deny that is true - but I would still argue that overall SC have the best coverage - they have more towers and own more frequency than the others.

In the future we hope to be able to add coverage to http://icompare.ch and I agree that any comparison solution worth its salt should have this... but you have to start somewhere!

My folks live in Nelson btw ;)

dawiz 16.09.2012 22:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by neromancer (Post 1665025)
For coverage, Swisscom is the best, but you pay a premium for that.

not really - depending on what you need (e.g. a flatrate to all networks and some included calls abroad), Swisscom can be significantly cheaper than Sunrise.

dawiz 16.09.2012 23:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FriendlyKiwi (Post 1665060)

Who cares about price when you have no signal?

agreed - Sunrise has been awful for me where I live. Orange doesn't work at all (not getting any signal in the building), so Swisscom it is for me.

neromancer 16.09.2012 23:18

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Quote:

depending on what you need (e.g. a flatrate to all networks and some included calls abroad), Swisscom can be significantly cheaper than Sunrise
Too true, that is why we created iCompare. Unfortunately it's not perfect yet, but we'll get there I hope!

isashach 25.09.2012 11:56

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Looks like a great website, and it seems that the contract that I'm currently locked into is a considerably better deal than the current ones!

ToddRichmond 25.09.2012 13:26

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Just checked mine before moving over to Switzerland next month; looks like what I had seen on Swisscom before coming onto this website is going to be the right one - thanks!

MShah23 25.09.2012 16:07

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Hey--just wanted to thank you for this great website, post and the conversation that followed. All have been incredibly helpful for me as I'm moving to CH later this week and was looking for a place to start to figure out which phone to get. Best of luck moving the website from beta to a full launch!

thorthor 28.09.2012 22:21

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Very nice website indeed, congratulations!

Another feature you might look to in the future for the "Handy & Tarif" is that the user only should enter his usage needs and based on his selection a full list of posisble handy's + associated costs. This model is used a lot on comparison websites in Holland and has proven to be very succesful.

If already implemented, and I simply didn't find it, I apologize :)

Simmer 29.09.2012 19:02

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Hey, good job on the website, it seems to work pretty well and shows a lot of useful information.
Unless I am mistaken though, the calculation of one-off costs shown as a per month cost is confusing as although I am looking at a 24 month contract & tariff, the one-off cost has been divided by 12 months. (If I am locked into a 24 month contract, and paying 240chf up front for the phone then i equate that to 10chf per month for the phone, right?)


The next tweak you need is a way to extract the information on the random rebates that sunrise and orange offer online - 2x25chf with sunrise, vs 40 or 80chf with orange... all very confusing.

lewton 07.10.2012 10:49

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Anybody knows if Swisscom offers a discount on contract monthly fees if you opt not to take a subsidized phone from them?
E.g. on Orange a 70-francs contract comes at 55 francs/month if you take no phone.
It makes sense that they do this discount, but I can't find anything related on their website. :(

blauburgunder 20.01.2013 14:59

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I've looked at their plans in depth as well, and from what I can tell they do *not* give you a discount for bringing your own phone. As you point out, Orange does, which so far has tipped the scales towards my going with them.

peterrace 20.01.2013 15:15

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I also looked at this. Swisscom don't seem to offer, and Orange do. I think Sunrise also give you a subsidised rental for bringing your own phone

ptruong 20.01.2013 19:06

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This is a great resource - thanks!

Idgie 20.01.2013 19:44

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Has anyone found a site for comparing the tariffs for calls made from abroad when traveling and, more importantly, data transfers abroad?

Yes, I do know that you can buy a prepaid card at most places when going abroad, but this is just not practical when going somewhere for a weekend, plus it is not possible with a locked-in phone.

blauburgunder 20.01.2013 19:46

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I haven't seen anything like that, would be useful. Although this is precisely why I bought an unlocked phone - I'm just out of Switzerland too much.

I do know that many of the Swisscom packages now include a small amount of minutes and data to be used in the EU each month, at no additional fee.

lewton 20.01.2013 21:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Idgie (Post 1773522)
Has anyone found a site for comparing the tariffs for calls made from abroad when traveling and, more importantly, data transfers abroad?

Yes, I do know that you can buy a prepaid card at most places when going abroad, but this is just not practical when going somewhere for a weekend, plus it is not possible with a locked-in phone.

I haven't, but Swisscom includes some roaming usage in its high-tier plans. Check their website.
Also Orange will charge 4 francs/day for some small Internet usage while abroad.

You should check which of the two matches your needs better.


Quote:

Originally Posted by blauburgunder (Post 1773526)
Although this is precisely why I bought an unlocked phone - I'm just out of Switzerland too much.

Recently I got a free Sony Xperia T from Orange. It was the first time in my life I got a subsidized phone from any carrier because I got a crazy-good deal on orange.ch.
So guess my surprise when I realized my Xperia T is not SIM-locked. :eek:

Idgie 27.01.2013 19:25

Re: Which mobile phone provider? Swisscom, Sunrise, Orange....
 
Done some research.


1. Calls
I have a Migros mobile contract, and for that, one can sign up for their World Option Flex at CHF 9 per month, which gives you much better prices when calling from abroad. Not for data, though. :( The good thing is that you activate and deactivate by SMS, so that you do not pay the CHF 9 per month forever.


2. Data
Prices go from CHF 7 for 24 hours and 10MB (Europe) or 14 EUR for preferred countries, to CHF 0.20/30kB.

I have not found any good deals.


3. Surprises
Also, you can set your mobile settings to allow only a certain budget for calls from abroad, and / or to be alerted when a certain amount has been used up in any given month. At least, this avoids surprises. I would think that other providers have the same service.


The guy at mobilezone had no clue what I was talking about when I asked him about this, so I thought I should send the link:

http://www.migros.ch/de/supermarkt/m...ment/surf.html

Has anyone found a better deal for data transfers?

alohahw 13.12.2017 17:05

SUNRISE Abo QoQa Mobile for good price!
 
https://www.qoqa.ch/fr

Limited for today and wanted to share -

my friends use it and they love it

unlimited calles to US and CANADA included

Chuff 13.12.2017 17:14

Re: SUNRISE Abo QoQa Mobile for good price!
 
Already posted here https://www.englishforum.ch/2885208-post35.html :)

kristianej 13.12.2017 17:15

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It seems that they changed the offer, so I was lucky in 2016. I hope that I can keep the same conditions going forward becasue it has been the best internet/phone deal i have ever done.

alohahw 13.12.2017 20:24

Re: SUNRISE Abo QoQa Mobile for good price!
 
Ah my bad:) good to know!

Sultan of Swing 13.12.2017 20:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Las (Post 2885467)
I confirmed this.


You cannot use the 2nd SIM in a 4G LTE router as your hotspot.


This reduces the effectiveness of the offer dramatically. It's still a very good offer but not barnstorming as it would have been with the 2nd SIM hotspot usage.


Pity.

Sales Performance, go figure.

I've signed up nevertheless, reckoned I'd use the backup SIM in the smartphone and the primary in a modem.

Sultan of Swing 14.05.2018 17:36

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Sunrise will enhance the offer by doubling the free roaming limit up to 4Gb and extend the free-to-call country list:

Quote:

Dem Abo im Wert von CHF 130.- pro Monat werden Länder für kostenlose Anrufe aus der Schweiz hinzugefügt und das im Ausland angebotene Datenpaket wird verdoppelt: 4GB anstatt 2GB pro Monat! Alles beinhaltet ebenfalls Zone 1 und die Vereinigten Staaten & Kanada – unbegrenzt! Ja, du hast richtig gelesen: Keine Zusatzkosten für ein noch genialeres Knaller-Abo! Ein Leben lang!

Und wie funktioniert das Ganze? Super einfach: Sunrise migriert Dich automatisch. Du lehnst Dich zurück und bekommst bis spätestens 15. Juni eine SMS, dass Dein Vertrag umgestellt wurde. Dann einfach lossurfen und Vorteile geniessen.

Sultan of Swing 11.12.2018 01:11

Re: Which mobile phone provider? Swisscom, Sunrise, Orange....
 
Qoqa is back, jetzt zuschlagen!

Sultan of Swing 01.03.2019 15:30

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dawiz 01.03.2019 15:46

Re: Which mobile phone provider? Swisscom, Sunrise, Orange....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sultan of Swing (Post 3046747)

130 bucks - holy crap. If you routinely go to the US, fine (although Salt charges 89 for the same), but for Europe, nothing beats Swisscom’s 80 bucks (or 60, if you have the inOne thing)

Sultan of Swing 01.03.2019 15:59

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true that, however 55 is still undefeated.

dawiz 01.03.2019 16:05

Re: Which mobile phone provider? Swisscom, Sunrise, Orange....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sultan of Swing (Post 3046754)
true that, however 55 is still undefeated.

If 4gb or roaming is enough - but then there are cheaper options as well. I’m not really a fan of Swisscom but their new subscriptions are excellently priced

Sultan of Swing 01.03.2019 16:13

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If 4gb or roaming is enough

as of today it is unlimited, hence my post.


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