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jot 26.09.2006 11:37

TV repair / disposal help
 
I have a TV languishing in my cellar that I want rid of. It's a big CRT TV with stereo, remote control etc.

It went 'pop' quite a while ago, and me being the miss fix it (i.e. meddle) that I am found a circuit diagram and read up a bit online and took the back off it to have a look. In my very unprofessional capacity, my verdict was that a couple of fuses and a resistor need replacing. However, after a long time intending to get it fixed, in a moment of there's-something-on-I-want-to-watch-frustration I opted for the easier 'go out and buy a cheap new one' solution.

My question is this: does anyone know of a TV repair / second hand TV shop in Zurich that would take it off my hands to repair and sell on themselves? Do these kind of places even exist in Switzerland?

If that's not the case (I guess there's a dwindling market for CRT TVs these days anyway, new or second hand), my only option is to dispose of it myself...

I know that in Switzerland electrical goods have a fee included in the purchase price to cover disposal/recycling costs at the end of its life, which means that you can return it to the store when it's broken.

I know from experience that Eschenmoser, for example, take goods for disposal even if not purchased there, at least small ones... is this generally the case? Could I take it to anywhere that sells TVs, for disposal? The reason I ask is that the TV was given to me by someone leaving CH, so I haven't a clue where it was originally puchased from.

In case it's not obvious, I don't expect anything for it!! I'll just be glad to get it off my hands and clear up the cellar space whilst costing me as little as possible in the process. As it's rather big, it would involve considerable effort (and possibly some expense) for me to move it, so of course it would be even better and be doing me a HUGE favour (and probably extreme wishful thinking) if anywhere does pick-up too! :D

Thanks heaps for any tips or suggestions.

mark 26.09.2006 11:46

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Originally Posted by jot
In my very unprofessional capacity, my verdict was that a couple of fuses and a resistor need replacing.

Sorry jot, you just made my day. Of all the components the resistors are probably the least likely to fail. But you impressed me by even getting the diagram out poking about:)

Anyway, onto disposal. You can now take your old electrical items to any store and hand them over, whether they were bought there or not. The recycling charge you pay for new stuff now applies to all old stuff (I think this is new since one or two years).

Not sure if you own a car or not, but if not this could be interesting. There is also a special rubbish tram that drives around and takes stuff like that, but they have a rule that if you drive up to the tram you aren't allowed to leave your rubbish. So you'll have to carry it through the streets to the tram stop :)

Lob 26.09.2006 11:47

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you can take this item to your local recycling place or Eschenmoser will take it.

Wertstoff-Sammelstelle or Sammelstelle is the word you seek. Have a look at your address and check the box here:
http://www.stadt-zuerich.ch/internet...gkalender.html

Diem 26.09.2006 14:19

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Psst! Jot! When you get a vehicle to take your TV away, would you mind popping around the corner to my place? I also have some electrical stuff to get rid of.

Of course, I'll be happy to help you carry the stuff.

=DM=

mark 26.09.2006 14:28

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For those who don't like carrying large items on public transport (i.e. car owners) a good tip is to take your stuff to media markt in Dietlikon. On the level where you drive in you'll see some big red doors with parking spaces. Drive in, ring the bell and then unload all your electrical items into their huge bins. Couldn't be easier. Well it could be easier, the parking could be free, but it will cost you minimum 1 franc to drive in here. ;)

jot 26.09.2006 14:41

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Originally Posted by mark
Sorry jot, you just made my day

don't apologise, glad to be of service ;)

Incidentally, I replaced the 2 fuses but they just blew again straight away... and my vague recollections of high school physics (v=ir right??) and a bad translation of a service manual led me to blame the resistor. Just as well I didn't bother to attempt fixing that myself! :o :D


Thanks Mark and Lob for the info. Will let you know Diem if/when I get around to shifting it!

Lob 26.09.2006 14:45

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do note that not ALL electric gizmo shops take stuff back. If they are, for example, in a shopping centre or have no easy access to store the stuff, it does not happen.

Eschenmoser near Stauffacher in Zurich has huge crates outside.

My Wertstoff-sammelstelle actually has people pillaging the containers. That's Lachen for you :spit: (will we have that smiley? ;))

mark 26.09.2006 14:47

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Sorry jot, meant to add an earlier point. Yes, you are right to ditch it. Unfortunately the cost of repairing it in CH would probably be higher than the value of the unit. Strange world we live in these days. I remember back when I were a lad and used to trudge 20 miles through snow to school etc, that my father used to repair everything that broke. Ok, he had a degree in electronics engineering, so was able to do component level repairs, but some of the repairs he did would take quite some time. Stuff used to break more often, and nobody could afford to simply replace things - household appliances were often viewed as luxury items. How times have changed...

There is one exception to the above - when I was in South Africa I found people repairing things like TVs - the fact that their electronics cost twice as much as ours and the value of their time is a fraction of ours means that the repair business is alive and well.

We may be throwing away our electronics, but at least it doesn't end up in landfill like it does there! Correct recycling of electronics is a costly and necessary business - hence the fact that we pay that recycling tax up front.

Lob 26.09.2006 14:55

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for a reference point, I recently had a TFT screen fixed for 185 francs. The problem was simply that the power socket on the PCB had come away and needed repairing.

To actually get them to open a TV would be 100+ francs. This was done by dropping off at Eschenmoser repair office which cunningly uses Fust Dipl.Ing. AG (http://www.fust.ch/fust/repair_servi...atur%2DService, German page also available in French and Italian).

SWICO charges mean that all electrical goods, whether bought with SWICO payment or not, can be freely-recycled: www.swico.ch/en/recycling.asp

DAT 14.11.2006 09:56

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Hi I am a guest from the developing country Ethiopia
I have an AFTRON TV model-AFCTV1411BF that is locked from the remote control. The blue screen shows only locked key on the lower left corner. Nothing is replied from the remote but the power on/off key.
Changed the EEPROM Chip (FM24c08-8pins) the tv unlocked but no color and sound is constant in volume.
Is there any one to help me what to do? Or How to get the unlock code in the original chip. 10q.

Lob 14.11.2006 10:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAT
Hi I am a guest from the developing country Ethiopia
I have an AFTRON TV model-AFCTV1411BF that is locked from the remote control. The blue screen shows only locked key on the lower left corner. Nothing is replied from the remote but the power on/off key.
Changed the EEPROM Chip (FM24c08-8pins) the tv unlocked but no color and sound is constant in volume.
Is there any one to help me what to do? Or How to get the unlock code in the original chip. 10q.

You are completely misunderstanding what this forum is about. We can't help you....try www.tvrepair.com?

rasb 07.09.2007 16:30

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I have a large fridge which is not cooling anymore. I figured that even though it is possible to repair it, it is very expensive to do that. Does anyone know where in Basel can I dispose it off? I understand, reading the thread above, that there would be no charge on disposing it. I am right? :confused:

Hopefully we can squeez it in our car (keeping my fingers crossed) and drive to its disposal place.

Otherwise, is it possible that it can collected directly from our home?

Nathu 07.09.2007 19:25

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According to the city of Basel website you can dispose of the fridge at the city's recycling station ("Recyclingpark"), the trash combustor facility (Hagenaustrasse 40) or at shops that sell kitchen appliances (and computers). This is free. For a fee the city will pick up the fridge at your home, just call the phone number mentioned on the linked website.

rasb 08.09.2007 11:07

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Thanks Nathu. I will call them on Monday and ask about the charges for the pick up from them. :)

AbFab 08.09.2007 11:28

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If you are buying a new replacement fridge, you can ask the store tio take back the old one when they deliver the new one. They'll do this free of charge...

08.09.2007 11:52

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In addition to the Media Markt at Dietlikon, the one at Dietikon you can drive straight up to, and there is usually someone to help you get heavy stuff out of the car. It's at the front of the building, just off the road, so no hassle (or cost) getting in and out of a car park.

They only accept stuff at certain times, so best to call them and find out what these are.

Bell 11.05.2008 23:02

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I'm glad to have found this thread! I have a couple of small broken appliances to dispose of and it's good to know I can take it to any appliance store and they will take it off my hands :) So as I understand it, any Eschenmoser, Mediamarkt, Fust, Interdiscount etc etc will do?

Now on to my REAL question... How do I tell them I want to get rid of the stuff after I present it to them? What do I say... auf deutsch?

Thanks in advance :)

11.05.2008 23:11

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Originally Posted by Bell (Post 224003)
I'm glad to have found this thread! I have a couple of small broken appliances to dispose of and it's good to know I can take it to any appliance store and they will take it off my hands :) So as I understand it, any Eschenmoser, Mediamarkt, Fust, Interdiscount etc etc will do?

Now on to my REAL question... How do I tell them I want to get rid of the stuff after I present it to them? What do I say... auf deutsch?

Just tell them that you have Elektrogeräte zum Entsorgung. If they sell electronics then they have to accept all electric devices for recycling. Last week I took back (in one haul) to Migros a large TV, 3 monitors, a computer and a large flatbed scanner. Doesn't matter if you bought the articles there or not.

FriendlyKiwi 13.05.2008 14:11

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Originally Posted by vwild1 (Post 224007)
Elektrogeräte zum Entsorgung

Isn't that supposed to be:

Elektrogeräte zum entsorgen

:D

13.05.2008 15:29

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Originally Posted by FriendlyKiwi (Post 224712)
Isn't that supposed to be:

That's why I don't teach German for a living.. ;)
(either way, they'll get the idea and take back the equipment free of charge)


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