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Old 15.12.2005, 22:28
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Cable? Pay per view? Satellite?

Another evening in front of the tv, flipping through useless channels ...

Considering how much money I pay per month for crappy public tv and radio access, you'd think there would be something to watch?

Does anyone have pay tv? I would like to have some more movie channels, and more english stuff. But I can't decide what I should go for...

Anyone paying even more money to get more channels with nothing on?
What are you with? Are you happy? Are the movies in english? (or dual like swiss tv, at least they got that right)
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Re: Cable? Pay per view? Satellite?

you are legally obliged to pay Billag for having a TV and /or radio - if you have a device to receive signals, there's no way out.

I think Cablecom digital with a few English channels is a rip off and would advise anyone to consider getting el cheapo digital satellite box + dish and getting BBC 1-4 and ITV 1-4 free for a one-off payment.

I have Sky and another box which gets feeds from three satellites. I want-not for TV choice in my house
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Re: Cable? Pay per view? Satellite?

Cablecom and Premiere are a rip off. A free to air satellite is your best choice with a dual LNB setup for Astra and Hotbird - you will need a min 80cm dish for this. If you want to pay money then get sky and be done with it...

Personally I have no problem with the free to air satellite options. This combined with Cablecoms standard offerings, if you understand German gives you quite a broad mix. Of course if you are a German non-starter Sky is the answer.

One thing. Until recently Sky was not available to anyone outside the UK unless you were commercial ie a bar or pub. That has changed and now anyone can have sky in the northern hemisphere. But you will pay... Best is still to know someone in the UK who will let you have it installed and then take it off the wall and bring it over here...

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Re: Cable? Pay per view? Satellite?

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Another evening in front of the tv, flipping through useless channels ...

Considering how much money I pay per month for crappy public tv and radio access, you'd think there would be something to watch?

Does anyone have pay tv? I would like to have some more movie channels, and more english stuff. But I can't decide what I should go for...

Anyone paying even more money to get more channels with nothing on?
What are you with? Are you happy? Are the movies in english? (or dual like swiss tv, at least they got that right)
I can help you with info about satellite options:

As others have said you can get a standard digital box and 80cm dish. Point it at Astra 2D and get BBC1,2,3,4,News24 plus ALL the ITV channels (for all the different UK regions). I think you'll get ITV3 as well, but maybe not ITV2. You should also be able to get Sky News, ITV News and a handful of other channels.

Cost: Not a lot. I think you could get a setup for about 300CHF or less

Option 2: Get an official Sky box (search the internet for UK retailers selling them) and then get a 'Freesat' card, using the address of the friend/relative in the UK. This will get you all the previous BBC and ITV channels etc. as well as Channel4 and Five plus a few further channels.

Cost: New Sky digibox would be about 100 quid ordered from UK. Card is 20 quid. Dish/LNB can be bought over here for about 100-200 CHF.

Option 3: Get the Sky box with a Sky subscription using the UK friend/relative address. Sky subs are costly though so only you can say what it worth it for you.

Cost. As before plus a minimum of 15 quid p.m. for the cheapest Sky subscription, up to 44 quid per month for the full one.

Option 4: Get a fancy multi-sat box with motorised dish. Plus a special CAM and hacked cards for decoding. Then you can get dozens of channels from the scandanavian satellites plus god knows where else.

Cost: No idea, but I know others who have done it (bear in mind that I think this might not be 100% legal but then neither is the Sky subscription option, I suppose).


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Re: Cable? Pay per view? Satellite?

BBC1-4 and ITV1-4 are FTA; ANY digital satellite system with a dish of around 80cm will get you these channels for the mere outlay of the system, cable and installation (many many people have their dish on a stand on the balcony and perform a self-install).

With a little adventure, you can get some kit that'll give you channels from 3-4 satellites through one box and you can "open" some channels that are reasonable with some little bits of kit (Dreambox, Dragon CAM, etc).

For Sky, the most efficient approach is to (ab)use a UK address, if you have one, for the subscription. If you don't, there are companies out there charging ~10 per month to "front" your subscription with Sky.

The best Sky box is the Sky+ v2 Pace box right now - good sensitive tuner for us over here and also Sky+ is absolutely fabulous. Worthwhile, I believe, for the subscription - I finally feel that I get value for money from the 42.50 I pay Sky.

There is alot up there to watch; if you have a south-facing balcony (my balcony was my main criteria when I selected my apartment) then you're laughing....as long as nobody (like the missus) remarks on the huge dish on the balcony....
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Old 24.12.2005, 16:09
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Re: Cable? Pay per view? Satellite?

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BBC1-4 and ITV1-4 are FTA; ANY digital satellite system with a dish of around 80cm will get you these channels for the mere outlay of the system, cable and installation (many many people have their dish on a stand on the balcony and perform a self-install).

With a little adventure, you can get some kit that'll give you channels from 3-4 satellites through one box and you can "open" some channels that are reasonable with some little bits of kit (Dreambox, Dragon CAM, etc).

For Sky, the most efficient approach is to (ab)use a UK address, if you have one, for the subscription. If you don't, there are companies out there charging ~10 per month to "front" your subscription with Sky.

The best Sky box is the Sky+ v2 Pace box right now - good sensitive tuner for us over here and also Sky+ is absolutely fabulous. Worthwhile, I believe, for the subscription - I finally feel that I get value for money from the 42.50 I pay Sky.

There is alot up there to watch; if you have a south-facing balcony (my balcony was my main criteria when I selected my apartment) then you're laughing....as long as nobody (like the missus) remarks on the huge dish on the balcony....
Yep - the Sky+ box worked a lot better for me at receiving the weaker stations than my old Pace digibox. I now get all channels with no breakup in bad weather (excepting thunderstorms and blizzards).

And as you say, Sky+ is great and actually makes the Sky service more value for money. I still think it's a bit of a ripoff though. If I was in the UK I'd ditch Sky and go Freeview with a suitable PVR.

To the OP: Putting a dish on a balcony, assuming it faces the right way, is surprisingly easy. Just get a vertical mounting pole and screw/drill it into a paving slab. Then run the leads under your balcony door using a short, flat cable specially designed for the job. No changes to your doors or building required, which should keep the owners of the building happy.


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Re: Cable? Pay per view? Satellite?

here's something I knocked up some time back in case someone searches for SkyTV Sky+ SkyDigital Sky satellite tv telly BBC1 ITV Brit telly


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Re: Cable? Pay per view? Satellite?

Teleclub is decent. Movies generally in English (they show pretty much the same as on Sky) and a sh*tload of sport too (2-3 Premiership games per weekend, including the pay-per-view Sky games and the all important Old Firm clashes!)

CHf 50 a month for the Sports package.......easy to get too...no dish required...just plugs into the wall....
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Re: Cable? Pay per view? Satellite?

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BBC1-4 and ITV1-4 are FTA; ANY digital satellite system with a dish of around 80cm will get you these channels for the mere outlay of the system, cable and installation (many many people have their dish on a stand on the balcony and perform a self-install).

With a little adventure, you can get some kit that'll give you channels from 3-4 satellites through one box and you can "open" some channels that are reasonable with some little bits of kit (Dreambox, Dragon CAM, etc).

For Sky, the most efficient approach is to (ab)use a UK address, if you have one, for the subscription. If you don't, there are companies out there charging ~10 per month to "front" your subscription with Sky.

The best Sky box is the Sky+ v2 Pace box right now - good sensitive tuner for us over here and also Sky+ is absolutely fabulous. Worthwhile, I believe, for the subscription - I finally feel that I get value for money from the 42.50 I pay Sky.

There is alot up there to watch; if you have a south-facing balcony (my balcony was my main criteria when I selected my apartment) then you're laughing....as long as nobody (like the missus) remarks on the huge dish on the balcony....
Hi,

I have a satellite but do not receive ITV at all!! Do I need a sky digi box to get the sky free to air satellite channels? My local satellite guy says yes....for chf 798.- I can get one that doesn't record and for 1249.- I can get one that can. Do you need one box per t.v? And what do we get here in Switzerland anyway?? The more I search the more confused I become. The sky shop in ZH says we get ALL the ITV channels and a english web site says only ITV(not 2,3 or 4). HELP!!! PLEASE!!!! p.s glad I found you guys googling for sky boxes in switzerland!!!!
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Re: Cable? Pay per view? Satellite?

Shannan
what channels do you get with satellite? Are you sure it's satellite? Where is the dish?
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Re: Cable? Pay per view? Satellite?

Hi Rob,

Thanks for your reply. Yes, its a satellite facing our mountain Pilatus (south). I get a whole bunch of channels I can't use. Today I took a look at the alle sender and found ITV but it came in another language. I get mtv and fashion t.tv....wow. So, you think I don't need the sky box? Interesting conversations going on about smoking huh? My fiirst day on here. Do conversations always get so fun?
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Re: Cable? Pay per view? Satellite?

ITV in another language hints you're not pointing at the satellite with BBC and ITV on.

What about my other questions? Is this satellite dish yours? Did you install it? Or is it shared?
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Re: Cable? Pay per view? Satellite?

Hi,

Lovely day isn't it. The satellite is ours, we had it installed by a retired neighbour who sells them and knows more about it than I do. When we bought it it was in the hopes of getting english t.v. we were told possible but, sky was not free to air.(that detail we found out later). The satellite is set at 19.2e and 13.0e- I do get BBC world , Bloomberg, CNN, Euro sports and Sky news. My ITV is set at 13.2 and comes in an arabic language. My receiver has two slots for cards...one of which we use to get Swiss channels. What is the difference between a sky digi box and a normal receiver? Do I need the sky box, could I get a card and use my exsisting receivers or am I on the wrong frequencies???
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Re: Cable? Pay per view? Satellite?

Sky Digital (UK) - Astra 2A/2B/2D (28,2E).
Sky Italia (Italy) - Hotbird 2/6/7A/8 (13E)

For more info I suggest you check http://en.kingofsat.net/ or http://www.lyngsat.com/

I think (but not sure) you can use you receiver.
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Re: Cable? Pay per view? Satellite?

get your neighbour to steer it round to 28e and maybe drop the monoblock (the double-thingy on the arm). And then get BBC1,2,3,4 ITV1,2,3,4

If you want C4, five you need a card + sky digibox. Same goes for a sky subscription.
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Re: Cable? Pay per view? Satellite?

Is it worth getting a box for C4? I'm a S.F. gal and don't know the English stations very well but, when I was vacationing in Egypt I enjoyed one of the ITV stations....can't remember which.
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I'd start easy and work my way up
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Re: Cable? Pay per view? Satellite?

Googled C4 and found they do the simpsons, eastsiders, grey's anatomy and such...Is that correct? Sounds like the same stuff on one of the ITV channels.
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One thing. Until recently Sky was not available to anyone outside the UK unless you were commercial ie a bar or pub. That has changed and now anyone can have sky in the northern hemisphere. But you will pay... Best is still to know someone in the UK who will let you have it installed and then take it off the wall and bring it over here...

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