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Old 21.04.2013, 09:33
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Re: Surface Pro review

When I first switched to macs, I did install a windows partition and run that in VM under Mac OS X (10.4 Tiger). That was...2006. After 2007 I've never bothered again. There is nothing I want to do I can't do far faster in OS X, and not having the windows partition gives me a lot of extra space.

I hear the "if I got a Mac, I'd install windows" a lot; and yeah I went there when I switched. But it really, really sounds silly to my ears now. And I still use windows at work (though, honestly, I could switch, I just don't so I can save my IT guy hassle) and I think MS did a great job with Win 7, but even then I get what I want done faster and with less hassle on the Mac.

Really, unless you need a key Windows-only application (SolidWorks and some Finite Element software used to be my reasons back when I was still an engineer) OS X is the superior system. (And yes - 95% of this is because apple doesn't do legacy support even a fraction of the way MS does, and yes, this is one of the reasons why everyone started developing for windows back in the day, so I get all that.)

On the other hand, people who are really used to certain idioms will HATE the new system, simply because it doesn't do "what it's supposed to." So, I'm not saying you need to switch. Just that installing windows on a Mac is really less compelling than you'd expect.
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I am not sure which will win out - Apple have good tablets, google are now selling more tablets than apple, netbooks and standard laptops are dead in a couple of years now so its an interesting time. The Surface Pro, if you remember, is meant to blur the line between an ultrabook and a tablet, it runs an i5 chip so it has plenty of grunt and it has the full OS onboard so it can run any Windows application. Although it has its standard microsoft failings, i.e. it isnt as rock solid as an apple tablet (though in fairness apple's offering is simpler technically) I think it will be a suprising fight between the ultrabook, the power-tablet and the others, along with a right slogout between apple, google and Microsoft.

Somewhat changing the question a bit, Richdog, what laptop would you buy for say 1200 chf ? I am looking for such a laptop currently and the last one I bought was 7 years ago. I want to stick to windows, need 13 inch screen, full HD and plenty of grunt with ideally staying as light as possible. any recommendations ?
Notebooks are not dead in "a couple of years", no idea where you pulled that statement from. And an SSD will wake any laptop from sleep pretty much instantly.

I just bought the following laptop for 899chf http://shop.mediamarkt.ch/de/compute...b/idpsyp2m0bup

Amazing screen (an IPS panel is rare in general, and on notebooks on this class it's unheard of), decent graphics power for a notebook, and I bought a Hybrid SSD to speed it up. It is 15" so doesn't fit your requirements though, and I don't have any other recommendation to give (and in all honesty can't be bothered to search). Just compare Digitec, Media Markt and Inter Discount and find the best spec you can for the money.
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Old 21.04.2013, 17:14
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Re: Surface Pro review

Hi dmay,
if I ever bought an Apple macbook air it would be the hardware - despite the poor keyboard. I would have no need for OSX. I have used it in the past but honestly it was poorer than virtually every version of Windows I have used and especially Windows 7 and 8. There was nothing that was quicker or simpler on the Mac than on the PC and for me things just need to work. So no Apple products for me.

Any way this is off topic. I hope Microsoft can get right and start making an impression with Windows 8. Even though it has not had a seller start it there already more users of Windows 8 than desktop Linux and it will not be too long before overtimes all Mac users.

In Basel you go into post electronics shops and compare the way which they sell and position Apple products compared to the often superior products from other companies. Where is the Nexus 10 ? Why is the Nexus 7 hidden away...is it stop people realising that it is cheaper and better than the over priced ipad mini ? This is the challenge for Microsoft and Google...getting their products promoted and pushed within the shops.

I cannot see Android as being my main operating system, even though it does work really well on smartphones. However, it does look like Android is going to be the operating system of choice for mobile devices.

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Old 21.04.2013, 19:18
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Re: Surface Pro review

I run a Mac mini for work and put Windows 7 on it. Very happy. I love Apple hardware but their software is no good. It works for people who play a lot with graphics and multimedia. But for other work Windows is much better. An Ipad is useless if you want to use it for work. No flash, no USB, et, etc.

Mac software is like a cult for people who want to seem cool and hip. It is the Prius of computing
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Old 23.04.2013, 18:44
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Hi

so Surface Pro comes to Switzerland in May...so then it will be possible to have a discussion about a product that can be purchased here.

http://blog.surface.com/b/surface/ar...ilability.aspx

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Jealousy is an ugly quality
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update: after lots of blind poking around on the modem set up page, I did something that made the Surface find my network.

still... if it does not work out of the box, it is a piece of sh*t
I bet if an Apple product needed the same changes you'd assume that your router/modem needing upgrading.
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I have a MacBook Air. I don't do full shutdowns and cold boots (since Mac OS is, really, just a UNIX wrapper) ...
That's not quite true. The Mac OS is an implementation of Apple's own Darwin (open source) OS. And Darwin itself is built around XNU which is a hybrid kernel consisting of the Mach 3 microkernel and component parts of BSD (which is why people think it's actually running UNIX).

OSX is not a UNIX wrapper.
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Re: Surface Pro review

An act of pure and utter desperation on Microsoft's part.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-24079527

I'm guessing they've got warehouses full of these things that are destined for landfill in the coming months.
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