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Which mobile network is best price/performance with the new tarrifs in 2013?

There's been lots of tariff changes lately, with Swiss operators at least trying to provide what can at least loosely be described as competitive tariff deals for medium to heavy users. I'm looking to change my current contract (Orange) which is due to expire, so through I'd create a thread comparing the new tarrifs at the usage/price-point I'm looking at:

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-Swisscom have pre-defined data speeds (7.2MB down 1MB up, fine for most people)
-They allow tethering
-Have the best coverage and signal.
-Include EU/Western Europe 30 mins, 30 SMS and 30 MB/Call 30 min. from Switzerland to the EU/USA/Canada
-Great customer service

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-Sunrise are a little cheaper
-Not sure if their coverage and signal are comparable, especially when you get out of the cities?
-Question mark over whether they allow tethering?

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-Orange are certainly improved over the last couple of years
-Allow tethering
-Have a fast 4G network without data speed limits
-Offer 100mb roaming data on the 3GB data plan
-However, they do have a data cap that the others lack at this pricepoint.
-They DO have a "no commitment" option if you keep your current handset, which doesn't tie you into any contract.
-Good customer service in general

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So, can anyone else add their thoughts on to the above and comment on any alternative price plans that represent 'good' (cough) value for money for medium to heavy users? Also on any pluses and minuses I missed out on, or incorrectly stated?

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Old 04.06.2013, 20:05
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Re: Which mobile network is best price/performance with the new tarrifs in 2013?

I personally have Orange and must say that I am not impressed by their coverage in Switzerland. Although can't compare with the others as don't have experience with, let's say Swisscom, when I travel in train between Lausanne and Basel, I can't get signal in certian areas while I see other people talking normally (I don't have a reason to believe that my blackberry is the culprit as its telephone capabilities are very good but could also be the case).

Another thing I would add to the comparison is the cost to call to other countries and while in other countries. And the data when abroad (don't know how the pricing model works for this though).
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Re: Which mobile network is best price/performance with the new tarrifs in 2013?

One advantage one should add to Orange is their English speaking and in my experience flexible phone costumer service.

One disadvantage to Sunrise is their heavy handed ways of making sure your contract auto renews (plenty of threads about that in EF).

But agreed Both Orange and Sunrise have a problem with coverage in Switzerlnd, see below map of all three and compare (look for the white space for NO-Coverage, I know it is mainly high mountains):

Orange (worse but has 4GLTE):
http://www1.orange.ch/en/residential...wiss-coverage/

Sunrise (better, 4G/LTE coming soon):
http://maps.sunrise.ch/coverage.php?language=en


Swisscome (best, 4G/LTE at extra cost-still plenty of white even with 2G/GSM ie voice)
http://gis2.begasoft.ch/gis/pages/ch...ng.jsf?lang=en
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Re: Which mobile network is best price/performance with the new tarrifs in 2013?

Cool thanks guys, Ive added some info above. Think I may well go for the Orange "no commitment" contract until I make my mind up about what phone I want to get, as both the Galaxy S4 and the HTC One don't float my boat at the moment.
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Re: Which mobile network is best price/performance with the new tarrifs in 2013?

A quick FYI. just did an Orange speed test and the download/upload on their 4G/LTE is really good.

Was able to get 20/20MB (up/down) and I only had 1/2bar on 4G/LTE.

Normally, I am only able to get 5-8MB on HSPA+, I will try to get full bars on 4G and do another test. if you guys are interested? I would post the results here.
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Re: Which mobile network is best price/performance with the new tarrifs in 2013?

I would run away from Orange as at least for those close to the border, their reception is shite (sorry but can't put it any other way)
Swisscom has better coverage, so I would be between them and sunrise
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Re: Which mobile network is best price/performance with the new tarrifs in 2013?

Swisscom allows tethering.
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Re: Which mobile network is best price/performance with the new tarrifs in 2013?

Sunrise too...not officially but I have been able to do it without any restrictions...


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Re: Which mobile network is best price/performance with the new tarrifs in 2013?

Natel Infinity M is 99 CHF...

http://www.swisscom.ch/en/residentia...nfinity-m.html

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Re: Which mobile network is best price/performance with the new tarrifs in 2013?

What is tethering? Other then what I had on in the 12th grade. JK. Also to add to this discussion as I was wondering something similar, a friend of mine suggested Orange as they have a plan for unlimited calls to Europe, the US, and Canada. Is there any decent plans that allow for roaming between Switzerland and France, perhaps Italy as well?

I cross between CH and France a lot, and have resorted to buying two phones, for each country. I rather stop doing that, and instead take on one "affordable" plan that allows unlimited calling. I can call Dad in Detroit back on the fixed line.
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Re: Which mobile network is best price/performance with the new tarrifs in 2013?

Tethering is the use of your cell phone – or other Internet-enabled mobile device – as a modem for another device, usually a tablet or notebook. The connection is made either with a cable or wirelessly through bluetooth or Wi-Fi.

http://www.nevermindthebuspass.com/h...-is-tethering/



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What is tethering? Other then what I had on in the 12th grade. JK. Also to add to this discussion as I was wondering something similar, a friend of mine suggested Orange as they have a plan for unlimited calls to Europe, the US, and Canada. Is there any decent plans that allow for roaming between Switzerland and France, perhaps Italy as well?

I cross between CH and France a lot, and have resorted to buying two phones, for each country. I rather stop doing that, and instead take on one "affordable" plan that allows unlimited calling. I can call Dad in Detroit back on the fixed line.
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I would run away from Orange as at least for those close to the border, their reception is shite (sorry but can't put it any other way)
Swisscom has better coverage, so I would be between them and sunrise
Sunrise reception is pretty shite around here too.

I'm moving away from them when my contract expires and I think I'll probably go with Swisscom.
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Re: Which mobile network is best price/performance with the new tarrifs in 2013?

Swisscom without a shadow of a doubt for me. I've got the Infinity M plan and can honestly say when I've had a 3G signal, I've not thought that it needed to be any faster. The quality of the infrastructure and signal strength makes it far better than at least Orange and I haven't heard great things about Sunrise. It always brings a smile to my face having a full 3G+ signal on top of a mountain.

The Infinity M packages also have 30 minutes calls to Western European (and North American?) numbers and 30 minutes roaming, 30 roaming texts and 30 meg roaming data in Western Europe. I've found this really helpful for keeping a lid on my phone bill when I've been away in Europe for the weekend and needed to make a few calls or look something up on Google maps.
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I have had problems with flaky Swisscom 3g connections in both in Geneva & Zurich, for most of this year. Yesterday they agreed to give me 2 months of charges as a refund. Today I was told that it will be 12-24 months before it will work as it should. Off peak it works, however 8.00 am , lunch time or 18.00 almost impossible to hold a connection. I tried an upgrade to the fastest option & downgraded within 24 hours as it was no better. The other downside of the new packages is roaming texts have doubled to 40rp over the included no.
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If you need/want coverage in rural areas, Swisscom is your best choice.
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Re: Which mobile network is best price/performance with the new tarrifs in 2013?

I've been on Orange, Swisscom and now on Sunrise.

Incredible to say but all three do not have good coverage. Here we are in the middle of Europe but there's spotty coverage at best.

Specific problems, based on my experience:

Swisscom: Pricing and receiving texts from North America.

Orange: Coverage, reliability, pricing.

Sunrise: Coverage, especially locking into 3G or Internet, receiving texts from North America.

Pick your choice out of three bad choices, IMHO.
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Re: Which mobile network is best price/performance with the new tarrifs in 2013?

Swisscom has, without the slightest doubt, the best network here in Switzerland. I had Orange in 2006, Orange pre-paid in 2007 and Swisscom ever since, but I've spent a lot of time in trains, on mountains or even in the Niederdorfli (!!!) with customers of Orange and Sunrise who wanted to use my phone because I had signal.

Ask your boss, he's got the XL (or whatever the highest-end one is) package. ;-)

As a consultant, I travel a bit, and the data roaming that's included with the M and up is useful too - it's very nice to be able to turn on Google Maps when you realize you've unexpectedly gotten lost in Munich.

I just can't convince myself to upgrade to one of their Infinity plans, though, because even when I go over my data limit each month, I still rarely exceed 45 CHF. I make a smaller quantity of longer-duration calls to local Swisscom numbers (teleconferencing systems and such), and calls to the office are free, so.... I'll stay on the corporate plan for now.
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The Infinity M packages also have 30 minutes calls to Western European (and North American?) numbers and 30 minutes roaming, 30 roaming texts and 30 meg roaming data in Western Europe. I've found this really helpful for keeping a lid on my phone bill when I've been away in Europe for the weekend and needed to make a few calls or look something up on Google maps.
That's true and a very good point, I will add the roaming data to the stats above as I don't think any of the others have that.

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I have had problems with flaky Swisscom 3g connections in both in Geneva & Zurich, for most of this year. Yesterday they agreed to give me 2 months of charges as a refund. Today I was told that it will be 12-24 months before it will work as it should. Off peak it works, however 8.00 am , lunch time or 18.00 almost impossible to hold a connection. I tried an upgrade to the fastest option & downgraded within 24 hours as it was no better. The other downside of the new packages is roaming texts have doubled to 40rp over the included no.
Yeah, I don't think any of them are perfect in that respect... i my office on the floor where I sit Swisscom has an almost non-existent signal, whereas Orange is full bar.

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Swisscom has, without the slightest doubt, the best network here in Switzerland. I had Orange in 2006, Orange pre-paid in 2007 and Swisscom ever since, but I've spent a lot of time in trains, on mountains or even in the Niederdorfli (!!!) with customers of Orange and Sunrise who wanted to use my phone because I had signal.

Ask your boss, he's got the XL (or whatever the highest-end one is) package. ;-)

As a consultant, I travel a bit, and the data roaming that's included with the M and up is useful too - it's very nice to be able to turn on Google Maps when you realize you've unexpectedly gotten lost in Munich.

I just can't convince myself to upgrade to one of their Infinity plans, though, because even when I go over my data limit each month, I still rarely exceed 45 CHF. I make a smaller quantity of longer-duration calls to local Swisscom numbers (teleconferencing systems and such), and calls to the office are free, so.... I'll stay on the corporate plan for now.
I hear you, but I don't want to carry two phones around, and im thinking if I get an infinity plan with unlimited calls and data, then I can use it for work and private without worrying about how much I use, and then just charge a reasonable set amount per month, maybe 30chf or so, to work.
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Re: Which mobile network is best price/performance with the new tarrifs in 2013?

Just as an aside. I signed a year contract with Orange in March and got a 15chf rebate per month as I wasn't taking a new phone.

Don't know if they have changed this policy since or if the OP has some wrong information.
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Just as an aside. I signed a year contract with Orange in March and got a 15chf rebate per month as I wasn't taking a new phone.

Don't know if they have changed this policy since or if the OP has some wrong information.
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