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Is there a "safe" e-mail service provider?

There is probably not an easy answer to my question, but my hotmail account has now been hacked for the umpteenth time. I am wondering if this could be because it is a worldwide program. Could bluewin or sunrise for example be safer because it is local? Or does their smaller size mean they have less security features? What is the general experience of other members?
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Old 02.10.2013, 12:18
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Re: Is there a "safe" e-mail service provider?

I've never had any problems with GMX - but nothing is hacker proof.
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Re: Is there a "safe" e-mail service provider?

but my hotmail account has now been hacked for the umpteenth time

It probably has absolutely nothing to do with the email service provider, but all do to with you...

Your setup, your connections in public places, where you input your passwords, the quality of your password, the likeliness that you are a target, etc...

So changing "email service provider" won't help at all.
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There is probably not an easy answer to my question, but my hotmail account has now been hacked for the umpteenth time.
Either your password is too weak, or you've got malware on one or more of the devices you use to access it. Or you used the password on a public terminal you don't control.
Whatever the reason - it is not Hotmail's fault.

When was the last time you did a clean install of the OS?
Or a sweep from a boot-CD?
http://www.heise.de/download/desinfect.html
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Re: Is there a "safe" e-mail service provider?

let me guess: your password is.... bobbie1978
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Re: Is there a "safe" e-mail service provider?

Haha Phil, no it is not. And thanks Timow for the 1 coherent reply.
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Re: Is there a "safe" e-mail service provider?

Google has 2 step verification which attempts to confirm that it is really you by sending an sms code to your phone. You can set this up so that it does it every time or once per new device. They also have an authenticator which is an app which generates a code unique for your account every x amount of seconds (if you prefer to not go the sms route).

It still won't make it impossible to hack your account but at least harder (unless you lose your phone of course).

Edit: In fact, must set it up now myself before I forget again.
Edit2: https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/180744?hl=en
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let me guess: your password is.... bobbie1978

How did you know my password???

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Haha Phil, no it is not. And thanks Timow for the 1 coherent reply.
See?
Here we are, 100% strong proof that you are the root cause of your "hacking problems".

Bad behavior (like I said earlier)!
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Old 02.10.2013, 13:16
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Re: Is there a "safe" e-mail service provider?

Can anyone recommend a "safe" provider in terms of not being accessible to NSA snooping?
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Can anyone recommend a "safe" provider in terms of not being accessible to NSA snooping?
No because whatever "transiting" can also be intercepted...
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No because whatever "transiting" can also be intercepted...
Of course it can, but with gmail, hotmail, etc the NSA can just open your account and read at will. I would like something where they cannot do that and that has an option to send encrypted emails. (or regular emails for non sensitive stuff)
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Can anyone recommend a "safe" provider in terms of not being accessible to NSA snooping?
no email is safe from targetted snooping. though you can escape the dragnet by encrypting mail and using the same end mailserver as the recipient so that you eliminate the server to server communication.
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Of course it can, but with gmail, hotmail, etc the NSA can just open your account and read at will. I would like something where they cannot do that and that has an option to send encrypted emails. (or regular emails for non sensitive stuff)
Your own smtp server + Outlook Privacy Plugin?
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Of course it can, but with gmail, hotmail, etc the NSA can just open your account and read at will. I would like something where they cannot do that and that has an option to send encrypted emails. (or regular emails for non sensitive stuff)
don't believe the hype. They can't, actually. But the data in motion? Almost definitely....smtp traffic is often taking place over tls and that is easy to read on the wire.

If you're being hacked, it could be because you register on sites with your email address and your email password. So you're giving it all away to parties you have no idea about....certainly I have strong reason to suspect this has been taking place recently as people appear to be sending emails from services like gmail but the account is not being used.....the contacts from the account and the credentials, however, are.

So don't ever use your email password for any other site you create an account on. EVER.
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Re: Is there a "safe" e-mail service provider?

tried this?

http://www.nsamail.com/
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Of course it can, but with gmail, hotmail, etc the NSA can just open your account and read at will. I would like something where they cannot do that and that has an option to send encrypted emails. (or regular emails for non sensitive stuff)

Run your own mailserver at home (get a static IP, more upstream-bandwidth).
Install the OS on a fully encrypted disk, with a good passphrase (every time you boot, you will need to enter it).
Use only Open Source implementations of cryptography.


In practice, this still applies:
http://xkcd.com/538/
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don't believe the hype. They can't, actually.
Really, the hype is that not only can they log in and read everyone of your emails including the ones you deleted, but can also track you while you are logged in (i.e follow along as you open emails, copy, paste, etc)
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Really, the hype is that not only can they log in and read everyone of your emails including the ones you deleted, but can also track you while you are logged in (i.e follow along as you open emails, copy, paste, etc)
sources?
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Google has 2 step verification which attempts to confirm that it is really you by sending an sms code to your phone. You can set this up so that it does it every time or once per new device. They also have an authenticator which is an app which generates a code unique for your account every x amount of seconds (if you prefer to not go the sms route).

It still won't make it impossible to hack your account but at least harder (unless you lose your phone of course).

Edit: In fact, must set it up now myself before I forget again.
Edit2: https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/180744?hl=en
2-factor authentication is a very good suggestion for avoiding password leaks. I have enabled the "Google Authenticator" app on my phone too, which doesn't send an SMS but shows a 6-digit number which changes every minute. I highly recommend enabling it for all important accounts!
 

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