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Re: 108.11ac wireless routers dropping heavily in price at Media Markt

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Tom, I am saying to return the router for a refund and then buy a new one, not buy two and keep them both... thought that would be a tad pretty self-explanatory.
Give over. This is Switzerland. I've never been able to return anything successfully. And I'm hardly likely to succeed with something that works.


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If the 2.4ghz is a real issue then why keep the router?
Because I paid for it - I'm stuck with it.
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Re: 108.11ac wireless routers dropping heavily in price at Media Markt

Second choice (if you don't want to try to give it back) sell it on, advertise it here, you will at least recover part of money (if you don't want to use it).
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Old 14.03.2014, 15:34
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Second choice (if you don't want to try to give it back) sell it on, advertise it here, you will at least recover part of money (if you don't want to use it).
And buy something else that people here recommend that doesn't work either?

No thanks.

I'll try and move it somewhere else that gives better coverage and ignore the LAN ports and use a switch next to the modem and the old WLAN router downstairs (or something like that).

If I do that, I'll definitely be able to improve the 5G coverage for the two rooms where I really wanted it and if the reset problem I had with the previous router (described earlier in this thread) does not occur with this one then I'll be moderately happy.

(If you're an RF engineer and you saw my flat, you'd understand my problems with WLAN)
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Give over. This is Switzerland. I've never been able to return anything successfully. And I'm hardly likely to succeed with something that works.

Because I paid for it - I'm stuck with it.
Ahh maybe I am too spoilt with Media Markt then... I have had staff say to me several times "Try it, and if you don't like it then bring it back". Hence why I did originally recommend buying from there.

You can try asking the company (after you have done further testing) if you can send it back and exchange it for another model... the worst then can say is no, right?

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And buy something else that people here recommend that doesn't work either?
To be fair, you didn't buy the router that was recommended (6300), you bought a different model (6250). There can be internal differences (radio or chipset for example) on lower-end models.
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And buy something else that people here recommend that doesn't work either?

No thanks.

I'll try and move it somewhere else that gives better coverage and ignore the LAN ports and use a switch next to the modem and the old WLAN router downstairs (or something like that).

If I do that, I'll definitely be able to improve the 5G coverage for the two rooms where I really wanted it and if the reset problem I had with the previous router (described earlier in this thread) does not occur with this one then I'll be moderately happy.

(If you're an RF engineer and you saw my flat, you'd understand my problems with WLAN)
I am not RF eng but play with this a bit
That's why I said before (when I read about upstairs and downstairs) that ideally you will need 2 routers and this is what you will have now.

Good luck, I hope you will get desired effect
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Old 14.03.2014, 15:53
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To be fair, you didn't buy the router that was recommended (6300), you bought a different model (6250). There can be internal differences on lower-end models.
Quite often it's just a software switch to change a few settings.

Actually, I wasn't really referring to your recommendation of the R6300. It was when you plucked another one out of the air (the ASUS) and then said try that.
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Old 14.03.2014, 16:00
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I am not RF eng but play with this a bit
That's why I said before (when I read about upstairs and downstairs) that ideally you will need 2 routers and this is what you will have now.

Good luck, I hope you will get desired effect
I've played a bit with RF in the past (and got paid for it too!).

I'll be happy enough with 5G upstairs and 2.4 down but I was hoping to keep the new router next to the ethernet breakout box because obviously I need two ethernet cables to it minimum (one to the modem, and one to a switch- for the wired connections), and all my wall sockets only have one connection.
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Quite often it's just a software switch to change a few settings.

Actually, I wasn't really referring to your recommendation of the R6300. It was when you plucked another one out of the air (the ASUS) and then said try that.
It is also a very good and highly rated router with very mature firmware that is regarded as one of the best on the market, so there was no "plucking out of the air" about it.
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Old 14.03.2014, 16:09
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It is also a very good and highly rated router with very mature firmware that is regarded as one of the best on the market, so there was no "plucking out of the air" about it.
So are the Netgear ones...

Perhaps my demands are too critical.
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So are the Netgear ones...

Perhaps my demands are too critical.
No they aren't as I said in my opinion Netgear firmwares are basically crap (hardware on the other hand is OK)
Most of them are based on old OpenWRT (heavily and badly patched with replaced UI - you can see this int their GPL sources)
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So are the Netgear ones...
Indeed that's why I reccommended mine, it's a well respected router and the firmware is very stable.

What this all comes down to is are you actually experiencing any technical issues, or are you just experiencing technical limitations due to your own situational circumstances (house layout, thickness of walls etc).

If it's the latter, then no single router will help you. However seeing as you said an older router gave a better signal in the same position, then it sounds like a technical issue.

Also check your router has the latest firmware, and if not download and install the new one and see if it helps.
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Old 14.03.2014, 16:31
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Indeed that's why I reccommended mine, it's a well respected router and the firmware is very stable.

What this all comes down to is are you actually experiencing any technical issues, or are you just experiencing technical limitations due to your own situational circumstances (house layout, thickness of walls etc).

If it's the latter, then no single router will help you. However seeing as you said an older router gave a better signal in the same position, then it sounds like a technical issue.

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It's only slightly worse.

But the advertising literature on Netgear's site says:

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Range—For large homes
I guess they measured it in the average large American home made of wood.


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Also check your router has the latest firmware, and if not download and install the new one and see if it helps.
That's one of the the first things I did.
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Old 15.03.2014, 16:03
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Re: 108.11ac wireless routers dropping heavily in price at Media Markt

So, in case anyone's interested, I changed the settings of the router to turn it into a wireless access point and switched off the wireless of the original router so it could act as a LAN router in the ethernet distribution box.

This gives:

The new wireless router only needs one ethernet connection so I can site it where it achieves maximum coverage.
The wired ethernet can stay as it is without extra cables all over the place.
I now get 5G coverage in one more room.

Which is better than I had before
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So, in case anyone's interested, I changed the settings of the router to turn it into a wireless access point and switched off the wireless of the original router so it could act as a LAN router in the ethernet distribution box.

This gives:

The new wireless router only needs one ethernet connection so I can site it where it achieves maximum coverage.
The wired ethernet can stay as it is without extra cables all over the place.
I now get 5G coverage in one more room.

Which is better than I had before
If anyone's interested, here's an update.

I changed it back again so the router is now more in the centre of the apartment.
I've lost my wireless and wired access for some of downstairs but I've got an idea for that later.
But, it was crazy to site a wireless router in anything but an optimum location.

Here's what I've discovered:

To use the the USB 3.0 with a HDD, it needs an "unpowered" one from the "Unofficial approved list".
This actually makes sense as the Router controls when the HDD is actually switched on and that's only when it's being accessed.
(I used a powered drive before and it kept losing files as well as always being on).
So, along with a new PC, the performance increase is amazing:

I backed up my photo files to the HDD from my old PC and it took eight hours.
I then transferred the same files to the new PC from the new HDD and it took 15 minutes!
I still have issues with the 5G and a MacBook Pro which I need to look into.
I'm using the HDD as a media server as well with a wireless dongle and a Raspberry Pi running XBMC and performance is amazing.

As far as the wireless range of the router is concerned, I'm going to accept that the problem lies with the apartment design and construction materials rather than the router.

So, I'm much happier than I was before.
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Re: 108.11ac wireless routers dropping heavily in price at Media Markt

I finally got Fiber, but Sunrise shipped the Fritz 7390 box, which doesn't seem to be ac compatible. What is the best option for an ac-compatible faster router? One with good range, preferably. Would this one work? : http://www.toppreise.ch/prod_347525.html

One thing I like about the Fritz is how easy it is to use, literally plug and play. Ideally, I'd like one that's just as simple and doesn't have complex software.
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I finally got Fiber, but Sunrise shipped the Fritz 7390 box, which doesn't seem to be ac compatible. What is the best option for an ac-compatible faster router? One with good range, preferably. Would this one work? : http://www.toppreise.ch/prod_347525.html
I don't know too much about them but I would get one with a USB 3.0 port rather than a USB 2.0 port as in the one you linked to.

Range seems to depend more on the construction materials and design of your building rather than the specification of the actual router.
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Re: 108.11ac wireless routers dropping heavily in price at Media Markt

What would be the advantages of USB 3.0 for a router?
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What would be the advantages of USB 3.0 for a router?
I don't have a NAS so use a USB 3.0 drive plugged into the router which is accessible from all laptops, iPODS, PCs. Macs for shared network storage and backup. It's also used as a Media server with a Raspberry PI.

But, the main point is that it's super fast compared with USB 2.0 which is, IMO, virtually unusable used in the same way.
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I finally got Fiber, but Sunrise shipped the Fritz 7390 box, which doesn't seem to be ac compatible. What is the best option for an ac-compatible faster router? One with good range, preferably. Would this one work? : http://www.toppreise.ch/prod_347525.html

One thing I like about the Fritz is how easy it is to use, literally plug and play. Ideally, I'd like one that's just as simple and doesn't have complex software.
I have been playing around the idea of getting the new netgear Nighthawk X4

It actually has a really good interface, easy to use and all the reviews have been bragging about how good it is speed and long range of its Wifi is the main point (even over the older 2.4Ghz Frequency) plus the fact the it is future proof in many ways not least 2 x USB3.0 and 1 x eSATA port ie superfast NAS if you require this option.

good luck whatever you chose and do let us updated.
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Re: 108.11ac wireless routers dropping heavily in price at Media Markt

So what is the best AC router nowadays? I am finally going to buy a new one.
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