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Re: 108.11ac wireless routers dropping heavily in price at Media Markt

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So what is the best AC router nowadays? I am finally going to buy a new one.
AFAIK, Ubiquity are among the best wireless APs:
https://www.digitec.ch/de/s1/product...85138?tagIds=7

If I had a house, I'd sure have a couple of of those.

Should also solve all the range-problems of 802.11ac.
:-)

As for a router - I'd probably build my own with pfSense and PC-Engines latest APU platform. For a simple home-setup where you have no DMZ, allowing basically anything outbound and nothing inbound is just the default setup and you just have to enter your DSL credentials in the web-gui.


Very, very few issues over the years - and with the exception of Apple devices, where else can you mail the manufacturer, NOT ask for a replacement part (PSU was broken, I had a spare one here) and still get one, no questions asked?
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AFAIK, Ubiquity are among the best wireless APs:
https://www.digitec.ch/de/s1/product...85138?tagIds=7

If I had a house, I'd sure have a couple of of those.

Should also solve all the range-problems of 802.11ac.
:-)

As for a router - I'd probably build my own with pfSense and PC-Engines latest APU platform. For a simple home-setup where you have no DMZ, allowing basically anything outbound and nothing inbound is just the default setup and you just have to enter your DSL credentials in the web-gui.


Very, very few issues over the years - and with the exception of Apple devices, where else can you mail the manufacturer, NOT ask for a replacement part (PSU was broken, I had a spare one here) and still get one, no questions asked?
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i haven't seen those pc engine boards before. have you used them? do you manage to get line speed gigabit without packet loss?
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i haven't seen those pc engine boards before. have you used them? do you manage to get line speed gigabit without packet loss?
I only have one of the old ALIX-boards. Which is fine for me, because I just have VDSL.

This thread:
https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=73885.0

suggests that the APU obviously cannot do Gbit line-speed.

AFAIK, very few embedded platforms can manage true Gbit.
And then, it's not x86 but more in the direction of MIPS.
Juniper seems to sponsor FreeBSD's MIPS-port, mostly.

By the time I get Gbit internet, pcengines will (hopefully) sell the right hardware and pfSense will be ported to it ;-)
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Old 20.10.2014, 20:46
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I only have one of the old ALIX-boards. Which is fine for me, because I just have VDSL.

This thread:
https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=73885.0

suggests that the APU obviously cannot do Gbit line-speed.

AFAIK, very few embedded platforms can manage true Gbit.
And then, it's not x86 but more in the direction of MIPS.
Juniper seems to sponsor FreeBSD's MIPS-port, mostly.

By the time I get Gbit internet, pcengines will (hopefully) sell the right hardware and pfSense will be ported to it ;-)
a shame. i guess the crappy realtek chipset probably doesn't help.

i'm hopefully upgrading to gigabit internet in a few months and am considering router options.

it looked nice. coreboot, low power, even schematics provided!
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a shame. i guess the crappy realtek chipset probably doesn't help.
AFAIK, it's not that bad, actually.
And certainly not the only reason for the sub Gbit-Performance.


I'd ask in the pfsense-forum (or use the search function there...).

It's not an uncommon question, I assume.

I'd probably look at ubiquity for routing, too (after checking how long they actually support their hardware with software-updates). Even though the hardware seems to be completely over-the-top for home-usage (1 million pps...).
But I like reliable stuff - and FreeBSD's MIPS-port will eventually run on it.
https://wiki.freebsd.org/FreeBSD/mips
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What's the routing-performance for Apples latest Airport Express?
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Re: 108.11ac wireless routers dropping heavily in price at Media Markt

Let's get serious now, I don't need a 1500 CHF AP

I need a decent, stabile fast router to replace my cablecom WIFI which sucks.

I also have NAS and SONOS

Budget, let's say 150 CHF
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Let's get serious now, I don't need a 1500 CHF AP

I need a decent, stabile fast router to replace my cablecom WIFI which sucks.

I also have NAS and SONOS

Budget, let's say 150 CHF
Go ASUS or Netgear, those are the two best mianstream router brands in my opinion. The two I would recommend in your budget are:
  • ASUS RT-AC66U
  • Netgear 6300 v2

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AFAIK, Ubiquity are among the best wireless APs:
https://www.digitec.ch/de/s1/product...85138?tagIds=7

If I had a house, I'd sure have a couple of of those.

Should also solve all the range-problems of 802.11ac.
:-)

As for a router - I'd probably build my own with pfSense and PC-Engines latest APU platform. For a simple home-setup where you have no DMZ, allowing basically anything outbound and nothing inbound is just the default setup and you just have to enter your DSL credentials in the web-gui.

Very, very few issues over the years - and with the exception of Apple devices, where else can you mail the manufacturer, NOT ask for a replacement part (PSU was broken, I had a spare one here) and still get one, no questions asked?
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Old 23.10.2014, 13:22
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Let's get serious now, I don't need a 1500 CHF AP

I need a decent, stabile fast router to replace my cablecom WIFI which sucks.

I also have NAS and SONOS

Budget, let's say 150 CHF
to be fair, that was for 3 of them. though one on its own is still $400:

https://www.digitec.ch/de/s1/product...58281?tagIds=7

convince 2 other people to buy and get the discounted price of $350
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Re: 108.11ac wireless routers dropping heavily in price at Media Markt

I think I'll just spend a little bit more and get this one:

Asus RT-AC68U

177 CHF + shipping.

Standard, with only 4 lan ports, are there any other with more ports, or I will have to use a switch...
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I think I'll just spend a little bit more and get this one:

Asus RT-AC68U

177 CHF + shipping.

Standard, with only 4 lan ports, are there any other with more ports, or I will have to use a switch...
This one is competing with Netgear R7000.

At the end you might put DD-WRT easily on the Asus, but it seems the official dd-wrt (Not the Asus DD-WRT) are not yet properly finished for that one.

Also, price wise, there are 2 new top of the end routers out (newer netgear and newer Asus). So far it has not impacted the price of these, but I think soon it will since it's no longer their "flagship" devices.

FYI there's a price evolution option in Toppreise and the lowest price for that Asus has been around 170CHF.

I expect it will drop "soon".



PS: a few weeks ago it was on Amazon.co.uk lightening deal and was equivalent of 150CHF approx.

FYI: Here's the new badass:
ASUS RT-AC87U

Too expensive, but it's their new flagship which retires the "Asus RT-AC68U", expect prices to reduce-
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Re: 108.11ac wireless routers dropping heavily in price at Media Markt

Here you go!!!
http://www.microspot.ch/msp/product/...ch-/detail.jsf

121 CHF instead of usually 170+

Read reviews it's a very good one (although I think I would prefer the ASUS RT68AC)
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Here you go!!!
http://www.microspot.ch/msp/product/...ch-/detail.jsf

121 CHF instead of usually 170+

Read reviews it's a very good one (although I think I would prefer the ASUS RT68AC)
Wow, that is a great price... only problem I have with this style of router is the flat shape with the big antennae sticking out... it's hard to hide behind things.

However, at this price it is a no-brainer. http://www.trustedreviews.com/netgea...-router-review

Microspot are doing some crazy prices lately... seems like they are really trying to compete to be the cheapest on Toppreise.
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Re: 108.11ac wireless routers dropping heavily in price at Media Markt

Thank you, thank you, I bought it, I almost got the asus 87 so you saved me a lot of money by buying this one, I think I won't be dissapointed.

Thanks again, will report how it is.

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Thank you, thank you, I bought it, I almost got the asus 87 so you saved me a lot of money by buying this one, I think I won't be dissapointed.

Thanks again, will report how it is.

You can't beat EF for bargains!
I saw it on Toppreise


http://www.toppreise.ch/index.php?tph=4&p=8

Minus 29.94 %!

not bad.
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Re: 108.11ac wireless routers dropping heavily in price at Media Markt

Interestingly, the Ubiquiti gear seems to be cheaper in the US. I might buy the next time I'm there.
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Re: 108.11ac wireless routers dropping heavily in price at Media Markt

Seems the right place for this question?

I have a Centro Grande from Swisscom for the last x4 years it's a POS that keeps dropping out once a day, and for sometime I've wondered what to replace it with. Swisscom wont replace it as I've had it forever.

I live in the middle of no where and I get 5mb max via Vsdl (I think)

Must have x4 lan 1gb ports + good wifi "throw"

Any thoughts?
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Seems the right place for this question?

I have a Centro Grande from Swisscom for the last x4 years it's a POS that keeps dropping out once a day, and for sometime I've wondered what to replace it with. Swisscom wont replace it as I've had it forever.

I live in the middle of no where and I get 5mb max via Vsdl (I think)

Must have x4 lan 1gb ports + good wifi "throw"

Any thoughts?
Ehmm, read the last 15 or so posts, perhaps?
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Ehmm, read the last 15 or so posts, perhaps?
Monday lazyness.. I did read through them, but I got no real winner I should be buying.

I would like VDSL + Wifi, not wifi or a modem on it's own.

The issue is I already have a second router, cat6e from the Centre Grande with hard wired off that router connections for my PS, PC, NAS Server, Dreambox 800hd (I bought from Richdog) etc

Telephone Line > Centro Grande (POS 10mb ethernet) > Linksys Router (1gb ethernet)

I dont want:-

Telephone Line > "New Modem" > "New Router" > Linksys Router

Nice to see Swisscom's approved list contains no real choices for VDSL2 over POTS router/modem. Just the fritzbox

http://www.swisscom.ch/dam/swisscom/...ent_V14-11.pdf

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Monday lazyness.. I did read through them, but I got no real winner I should be buying.

I would like VDSL + Wifi, not wifi or a modem on it's own.

The issue is I already have a second router, cat6e from the Centre Grande with hard wired off that router connections for my PS, PC, NAS Server, Dreambox 800hd (I bought from Richdog) etc

Telephone Line > Centro Grande (POS 10mb ethernet) > Linksys Router (1gb ethernet)

I dont want:-

Telephone Line > "New Modem" > "New Router" > Linksys Router

Nice to see Swisscom's approved list contains no real choices for VDSL2 over POTS router/modem. Just the fritzbox

http://www.swisscom.ch/dam/swisscom/...ent_V14-11.pdf
I have the same issue ie I like to have a modem and a wifi router in one box, my advice would be to get the Asus DSL-AC68U. The Asus DSL-AC68U is similar to ASUS RT68AC (talked about above) but with the added A/VDSL modem built-in. Cheapest price also at around CHF170.

Netgear also has one but its not the same wifi through speed as the Asus plus reviews are conflicting.

There are other options, but I think the above would probably give you the best of both (modem & wifi router) worlds!
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Monday lazyness.. I did read through them, but I got no real winner I should be buying.

I would like VDSL + Wifi, not wifi or a modem on it's own.

The issue is I already have a second router, cat6e from the Centre Grande with hard wired off that router connections for my PS, PC, NAS Server, Dreambox 800hd (I bought from Richdog) etc

Telephone Line > Centro Grande (POS 10mb ethernet) > Linksys Router (1gb ethernet)

I dont want:-

Telephone Line > "New Modem" > "New Router" > Linksys Router

Nice to see Swisscom's approved list contains no real choices for VDSL2 over POTS router/modem. Just the fritzbox

http://www.swisscom.ch/dam/swisscom/...ent_V14-11.pdf
Ahh I see, clearer now. I would go with the above suggestion of the Asus DSL-AC68U, it's relatively pricey but worth it for the speed and features, and you won't need to upgrade it for a long time.

PS: How's the Dreambox?
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