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Old 26.10.2006, 17:54
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Bluewin using a non supported router

I have just arrived in CH and have subcribed to the Swisscom internet service Blue Win for ease and speed. They sent me a Netopia adsl modem which works fine. I have bought with me a Linksys wireless modem and connected it to the broadband, changed the username & password to my blue win ones, but cannot connect to the internet. The ADSL light is on, but no signal. It appears that they do not support other modems, but they must all work!!

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Re: Bluewin using a non supported router

PPPoE or A is set?
I have set up a Zyxel Prestige 640R from vtx to Bluewin but have had a few beers since then
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Old 26.10.2006, 18:14
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PPPoA ist set
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Re: Bluewin using a non supported router

Thank you sorted it, set multiplexing to LLC
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Re: Bluewin using a non supported router

Hi, I just went to mediamarkt today to buy a router, they told me I couldn't get one if I had a bluewin analogue modem, but would have to buy a bluewin ADSL package because other wireless routers are not supported?? Is this the case? I don't want to have to go back to Swisscom to switch my entire setup, if I just buy a decent router like you did, will it work?

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Re: Bluewin using a non supported router

you would need to replace your USB modem with a modem/router. Simple as that.
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Re: Bluewin using a non supported router

Hi, I thought I bought the right one, but apparently this one is not an ADSL router. However, it should work with a cable modem. I've followed the instructions to the fine print but could not get internet acknowledged. Nor did I find the "LLC" settings in advanced or anything like that...help!
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Re: Bluewin using a non supported router

you have a router.
you need a router/modem.
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Re: Bluewin using a non supported router

I have a D-LINK ADSL analog modem and a D-LINK wireless router. The modem is set to "pass-through", meaning the ADSL access and protocol settings are configured in the router.

Tip: Avoid DLINK if you can. Up until now these components were the only DLINK parts I have been happy with, and now even the router is not always playing ball.
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Re: Bluewin using a non supported router

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I have a D-LINK ADSL analog modem and a D-LINK wireless router. The modem is set to "pass-through", meaning the ADSL access and protocol settings are configured in the router.

Tip: Avoid DLINK if you can. Up until now these components were the only DLINK parts I have been happy with, and now even the router is not always playing ball.
D-Link, NetGear and others often use the same internals chipsets, just badged differently.
Eg Atheros chips for wireless cards
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Re: Bluewin using a non supported router

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D-Link, NetGear and others often use the same internals chipsets, just badged differently.
Eg Atheros chips for wireless cards
I am aware of that, but the last firmware upgrade on the router was a bad move. I flashed the old firmware which has at least reduced the amount of rebooting. My router is a rev.C, but because this model has a revision D, D-link have sort of "given up" on firmware for rev.C and earlier. This seems to be their practice across their product range.
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Re: Bluewin using a non supported router

Tried and failed to get things going. I was warned that Swisscom analog boxes don't support normal wireless products. Will return the router and buy a new DSL router/modem. Thanks for all the help.
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Re: Bluewin using a non supported router

Who is your ISP (internet service provider) If its Blue Win the line will be activated first using the Blue win software. Once activated you can use a non standard router.
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Re: Bluewin using a non supported router

Hi, found the problem. I'm using a Swisscom analogue modem, which also happens to be a NON-WIRELESS router. Hence, buying another router clashed with the original. Today I returned the WLAN router and just got a wireless access point, which you plug into the modem. Everything fine and dandy.

Thank you all!
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Re: Bluewin using a non supported router

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Hi, found the problem. I'm using a Swisscom analogue modem, which also happens to be a NON-WIRELESS router. Hence, buying another router clashed with the original. Today I returned the WLAN router and just got a wireless access point, which you plug into the modem. Everything fine and dandy.

Thank you all!
True and False. In default Swisscom analog modems act as a router, performing DHCP functions,etc with a single LAN port. Was it a Zyxel XXXX ? If so, you could have set it to pass-through (LAN port becomes WAN port), letting the wireless router take over the WAN settings.
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Re: Bluewin using a non supported router

Gotcha. It's a Netopia modem which Swisscom gave me, and I did mess around with the pass through function but couldn't get it to work. Not good enough I'm afraid so I took the easy way, got my WLAN router refunded and got an access point, which was cheaper anyway.
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Re: Bluewin using a non supported router

Followed this interesting discussion with a hope that my problem would get resolved on the way. It looks to be similar, the difference being I bought a US Robotics Wireless 54Mbps ADSL router today. The router interface was simple and it even prompted me with Bluewin as an option for ISP after choosing Switzerland as the country. Until now I had be using a wired Netopia ADSL modem.

Even after completing all the steps as guided in the setup steps, I cannot get this to work. The ADSL light is on but the internet light is off.

I am stuck....Please help.
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Re: Bluewin using a non supported router

And yes. Further to add, Its PPPoE and LLC!!!
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Re: Bluewin using a non supported router

Hi, you may have made the same initial mistake I did. You bought a router. If this is being connected to your modem, then a pass-through option needs to be set (which I'm not sure how to do). The Blue-win MODEM is a router in itself, so you may be doubling up on routers and the system is jammed.

Thinking about buying an access point if the pass-through option doesn't work.
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Re: Bluewin using a non supported router


Hi

Thanks for the reply. In this case, I was not using bluewin modem. USR equipment is a modem + router.

But then, sometimes it could be the simplest of silly mistakes. In this case, incorrect login.....Now I am up and running.

Where do I go and hide!!!!!

Thanks for the reply
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