It happened to me few times to have to change my clothes and couldn't even go to the bathroom as I had to keep an eye on the kids all the time so I would change behind the door that the kids were in. I would always be afraid that someone would watch me. If I would go to the pool, no problem with getting undressed but in my employer's home is not a good feeling.


A nanny is expensive. If you want an Au Pair or a young babysitter without experience or a student that needs money to pay for her fees and does this job just for the money- then yes, you can have a cheap option. But otherwise, a nanny with experience , first aid and great references is quite expensive.

A Nanny in comparison to a creche or kindergarten
- has one on one attention with your children , even if they are 4 children (I worked with 4 kids or more and parents never complained about not giving them enough attention)
- she cleans up after your children all the time
- drops off and picks up your children from school
- sometimes cleans the house , cooks and irons for the parents also (Nanny Housekeeper) not only for the children or even as a Nanny if I see that the house needs tidying, then I do it so the parents can find the house clean when they come back
- irons the children clothes so the parents don't have to do it
- takes care of their belongings (arrange clothes, toys, clean their toys etc.) and so much more , again so that the parents don't have to do it or don't have time or had a bad day when they come back from work
- does some things around the house ( for example sewing the children dress or go to buy something your children need or you need but you don't have time, put out the meat to defreeze if you have a party that evening...etc.)
- a Nanny also has to pay rent (unles she is live in)

Which, apart from the last sentence, has got nothing to do with the cost over and above wages.

If you've got more than one child (or perhaps more than two) then a nanny can work out cheaper than a krippe.
We once did the sums but decided against a nanny.

and this is why I wouldn't like to be your Nanny .
Enough said with this subject here as it has been ''over discussed''.

Not sure I understand that. Are you saying that a nanny who works for eight hours works much harder than someone working in a nursery for eight hours or are you saying their work is more varied?

I was writing about financial realities before - fixed costs that a creche/nursery has to bear that a nanny doesn't.
This has got nothing to do with ironing and cooking....

FWIW Tom, I understand your POV.

A Nanny has more responsibilities than someone that works in a nursery. As I stated above. And there are so much more that I didn't write! Of course, if I pick up the mail I don't ask chf1 for that! Plus a Nanny also has to educate the child, play, teach manners etc etc etc. Same as the nursery/creche/Kindergarten worker.
But I am not sure how much is a nursery worker paid. I have a friend that has the same salary I had when I was working as a Nanny and she works in a private Kindergarten...and a state one would be cheaper so it depends on the family needs, lifestyle etc.
Also as I said above the pay could be from chf15/hr for a young Babysitter (not sure exactly what is the minimum wage legal for someone under 18yrs old without too much experience for example) to chf35/hr for an experienced Nanny, with studies and other things that are to be considered when you hire a Nanny.
You could also have a Tagesmutter.
Anyway, the subject of this thread is another one so let's not be carried away .

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I am not sure I understand you. Should a nanny charge less because she works at her employer's domicile?

You are talking as if this setting is meant to cater for one child, your child.

Btw, how about those marginal costs?

No, I'm saying the costs exclusive of workers wages are higher for a krippe.


There's no marginal cost for a nanny to bear for siblings if at a domicile. Those costs are paid by the parents hiring the nanny.

The marginal costs for a krippe will either be small (more food etc) or large if an extra worker needs to be hired when the legal ratio of workers to children is exceeded.

That's why a nanny has to have a decent salary in the first place, which most of the time (90%) is anyway lower than if she worked in a Krippe.

Re. more kids. What about the other point of view (opportunity costs anyone)? If she worked in a Krippe she'd earn 6500 fr a month. She's doing the same volume of work for you and gets payed 4500. How's that sounding now?

nanny 18/20 years old ( au pair or student etc)- CHF 600.- till CHF 1'500.-
nanny more than 20 without qualifications-
CHF 3'000. - CHF 4'000.-
nanny more than 20 with qualification CHF 3'200. - CHF 5'000.Per month.

I never wrote that nannies should be paid less, or more, or the same. I merely wrote that for a family, a nanny could be cheaper than a krippe.

Whether they morally get paid enough for all they is not a topic I can begin to answer.

Thanks. So I'd say, if you can't afford that and don't trust a nanny, put your kid in daycare.
If you have more (than two) kids and think only of costs, hire a nanny, as "it" could work out cheaper, and spy on her.

An au-pair is not a nanny, nor can she works as one, not more than 30hrs, etc.

Tom

I'm sorry this friend of mine who pays a small fortune now for only babysitting, practically, nothing more, didn't see these lines.
But, they are a Romanian family and were afraid to hire anyone else than a Swiss.

Afraid?

Yes, obtaining work permit for a proper nanny and so on. Suspicions raised, etc.
Heh, hard to explain some feelings.

yes right. For an au pair their are special rules

I met a woman recently whose husband had an affair with -- and then left her and her three kids! -- for their 19 year-old Swiss au pair.

Yeah... I think I'll stick with a Krippe.

Interesting Point. Maybe its not the Nanny that needs spying on.

If she got burnt....with the nanny thing....