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03.09.2014, 15:00
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if you remove the antennae, it will not stop the WLAN broadcasting but will most likely make it very dirty (I expect).
Just turn off wireless in the settings if you're worried....but do keep your cellphone away from your child too.... | 
03.09.2014, 21:22
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| | Re: Wi-Free by Cablecom, the good, the bad and the ... | Quote: | |  | | | I am offering my Paranoya-As-A-Service approach:
TLDR version - remove the antennas of your upc modem and install a separate AP/wireless router fully managed by you. These are dirt cheap to buy these days.
When I originally got my modem from upc, the WLAN was poor at best. So, I called them a few times, and after changing two modems I told them I wish to return the device as useless for my apartment (basically signal didn't go outside the living room). They decided to keep me as a customer and waived 3 months of invoices, so I can buy my own wireless router.
I proceeded to buy a proper wireless router, which is attached as an AP to the upc modem. I have removed the original modem antennas, so upc should not expect good signal beaming out of my box...
Cheers 
Oh, and thank you @Sbrinz - just deactivated the service on myUPC website.  | | | | | Hmm, not the first time I've heard of crumby, unreliable WiFi from the 'all in one' box beyond my own teeth grinding experience. Is the consensus one ought to get a stand alone router rather than rely on the UPC built in version? IMO it's a bit rubbish whereas the old, free standing router previously worked a treat.
Sorry to hijack the thread but their support are a waste of time and you lot seem to know your onions.
Is the aim of WiFree to encourage us to drop our mobile phone contracts with the traditional operators and switch to UPC's recently pushed mobile packages? Is it realistic to rely on WiFree VoiP? I require adult help.
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03.09.2014, 21:28
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UPC are trialling phone calls over data/wifi; they extend your landline package (and number) to your mobile/ipad and you can receive and make calls over data. It's probably part of that, although I've not tested how the calls hold while switching wifi networks.
My Horizon box's wifi is stable but the range is dire. If my apartment was any bigger than the 50sqm it is, I would need to extend the range.
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04.09.2014, 00:42
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| | Re: Wi-Free by Cablecom, the good, the bad and the ... | Quote: | |  | | | although I've not tested how the calls hold while switching wifi networks. | | | | | I have had the UPC mobile app for a few weeks now for testing and aside from the one split second lag in voice conversation (similar to Skype etal) and the normal disconnection if changing wifi networks or wifi from/to 3/4G which is due to new IP acquisition, it seams to work well.
The mobile app rings about a single ring after the landline and making calls from the app shows the number as the landline. The voice quality especially over 4G is impressive and much better then Skype.
Overall a well put tech/app but simply can't overcome the basic IP/Network issues. Would for sure use it when on the road or abroad and would save money especially if calling local number
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05.10.2014, 17:07
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I've activated the Wi-Free service and set a password in the interface.
Problem I'm having is that I can't correct.
I'm testing it at home and trying to connect to the Wi-Free signal from my own router and it's failing the log-on. Has anyone else had problems connecting to their own signal like this?
It's a bit confusing what they mean by user name, they say it's "usually" your email address, but my username changed a couple of times in the last 5 or 6 years, so maybe this is the problem?
I've tried with Android and WP8, both fail. If anyone has any ideas, let me know...
UPDATE: Duh - checked the UPC website and it says you can't use your own router :-)
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Reason: Duh
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09.12.2014, 23:34
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01.02.2015, 13:09
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Does anybody know why the first time you connect you must install a root certificate from "Liberty Global"? With that installed, woudn't they be able to issue valid certificates for any domain?
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01.02.2015, 23:42
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We have UPC and Wi-Free in Hungary and the promise is if we don't opt out (let others use the wi-free from our router) we could use the wi-free anywhere in Europe. Up to now we could not access any such wi-free...
I wonder if it will be available here with our HU wi-free user/pw.
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22.02.2015, 11:51
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| | Re: Wi-Free by Cablecom, the good, the bad and the ... | Quote: | |  | | | We have UPC and Wi-Free in Hungary and the promise is if we don't opt out (let others use the wi-free from our router) we could use the wi-free anywhere in Europe. Up to now we could not access any such wi-free...
I wonder if it will be available here with our HU wi-free user/pw. | | | | | upc cablecom’s sister companies in the Netherlands, Poland, Hungary, Poland and Ireland have already introduced Wi-Free. That means that upc cablecom customers can also use the WLAN network there. The service is scheduled to be introduced by other Liberty Global subsidiaries. For more information, visit upc-cablecom.ch/wi-free. http://www.upc-cablecom.ch/en/internet/wi-free/
Maybe other countries will join up, but this is the situation stated today on the website, http://www.upc-cablecom.ch/en/internet/wi-free/ Network names Country: Network name Netherlands: UPC WifiSpots / Ziggo Ireland: Horizon Wi-Free Hungary, Poland, Romania: UPC Wi-Free
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22.02.2015, 16:13
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Works only when you are close to a wifi source.. i.e. residential buildings, but weak signals, frequent disconnections .. annoying.
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24.03.2015, 00:55
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I´m using Wi-Free, and I have to say it´s great. It´s nearly everywhere, and pretty fast too.
Considering it´s usable also with foreign UPC-subscriptions, there should be a cross-country market:
My neighbour has UPC, so I could use his connection altogether, discarding my subscription. Now if a random Romanian user (where UPC is cheap) would let me use his credentials, and I´d pay him half his subscription, we´d all be happy?
Drawback: I wouldn´t be able to determine/guarantee stability of my connection.
Anyway - just a thought.
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24.03.2015, 10:07
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[QUOTE=ChrisNeedsToKnow;2363755]Now if a random Romanian user (where UPC is cheap) /QUOTE]
It's only cheap if you have a Swiss salary. 22 CHF per month for the 200 Mbps combo may seem cheap by Swiss (or even EU) standards, but let's not forget that the average monthly income in Romania is about 650 fr per month. 22 CHF is insanely expensive for the common Romanian.
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05.05.2015, 01:12
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hi,
has anyone gotten it to work?
i did all the steps on the router, went out to the city and it just wouldn't connect on my phone.
changed the password, even went as far as taking it to the store and they couldn't get it to work.
i wiped my phone as a last resort (iphone 5s so i had a cloud backup) but no go.
any ideas/thoughts from anyone using it?
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05.05.2015, 07:37
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It works just fine on my phone (Nokia Lumia 630). I just entered the user and password set on the UPC webpage, and it connected.
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05.05.2015, 13:30
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Works for me now.. seemed to have been that 1 particular access point.
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08.05.2015, 07:58
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I'm having mixed experiences with it, my phone connects to wi-free happily but most of the time I have no internet access.
I don't understand how they can say you can't connect to your own Wi-free, how can they know its your own? no way can they know you are sitting in your living room with a laptop instead of your neighbour sitting in their house with a laptop and connecting.
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08.05.2015, 08:26
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| | Re: Wi-Free by Cablecom, the good, the bad and the ... | Quote: | |  | | | ...It's only cheap if you have a Swiss salary... | | | | | Hence my idea:
A Swiss resident pais a Romanian guy for his connection in Romania. This yields it totally free for the Romanian guy.
In return the Romanian person gives up his Wi-Free credentials, which the Swiss resident uses in Switzerland.
This should work, as long as the Swiss neighbor leaves his modem within reach.
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08.05.2015, 09:02
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| | Re: Wi-Free by Cablecom, the good, the bad and the ... | Quote: | |  | | | Hence my idea:
A Swiss resident pais a Romanian guy for his connection in Romania. This yields it totally free for the Romanian guy.
In return the Romanian person gives up his Wi-Free credentials, which the Swiss resident uses in Switzerland.
This should work, as long as the Swiss neighbor leaves his modem within reach. | | | | | Instead of going all international and stuff, wouldnt it be easier to just go and knock at the door of the Swiss neighbor and ask him for his WiFree user & password?
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08.05.2015, 09:06
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| | Re: Wi-Free by Cablecom, the good, the bad and the ... | Quote: | |  | | | Instead of going all international and stuff, wouldnt it be easier to just go and knock at the door of the Swiss neighbor and ask him for his WiFree user & password? | | | | | Yes & No.
Yes - easy
No: Like this you´d use HIS bandwidth, not the separately provided bandwidth for "free"-users. Plus it´d be possible to use this one spot, not all Free-Spots throughout Switzerland.
I have my own home connection anyway, and I need it because I can't gample on stability (need it for work). But in general I find it quite an attractice idea to go "all internatinal and stuff"  (great way to describe it, by the way  )
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21.05.2015, 10:02
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I had never used Wi-Free, but yesterday I found one network and I tried to connect with my Android phone, unsuccessfully. Any idea what needs to be set in the certificate text box? Account name is my e-mail, right?
It could also be that I'm not a 'good' user. WLAN is disabled in my Cablecom router, which is connected via Ethernet cable to my own router that broadcasts wireless signal.
Unless enabling Wi-Free changed my configuration (hope not), I don't think I'm "offering" Wi-Free with this setup, so perhaps I cannot "take" either.
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