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Phil_MCR 14.01.2015 22:51

Synology recommendation
 
I need to get a NAS that can contain 2 SSDs in RAID1 for concurrent file access.

Can you recommend an appropriate Synology device or other brand. Automated encrypted backups would be a plus. Thanks.

zerogre 15.01.2015 13:08

Re: Synology recommendation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil_MCR (Post 2319107)
I need to get a NAS that can contain 2 SSDs in RAID1 for concurrent file access.

Can you recommend an appropriate Synology device or other brand. Automated encrypted backups would be a plus. Thanks.

I use this one and have absolutely zero quibbles with it. Synology makes some pretty good packages that you can load in addition to the normal ones (Audio Jukebox, VPN server, etc). Very good and have no complaints about it so far; been using it for over a year. So long as your SSDs are in the 3.5" standard format, it shouldn't present any problems.

Sean Connery 15.01.2015 13:12

Re: Synology recommendation
 
you can get trays for SSDs and other 9mm drives to go into standard slots.

what's your use case for SSDs over normal disks? Noise/energy?

Phil_MCR 15.01.2015 14:44

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Originally Posted by Sean Connery (Post 2319497)
you can get trays for SSDs and other 9mm drives to go into standard slots.

what's your use case for SSDs over normal disks? Noise/energy?

noise and heat. in reverse order.

Sean Connery 15.01.2015 15:01

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I think the units have fans installed in them. I'd guess with the airflow you'll likely have due to not using full-sized disks, you may be able to disconnect it.

If you did not need RAID, I would have suggested a Slug (NSLU2) - old but good and no moving parts.

Sean Connery 15.01.2015 15:05

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QNAP does some fanless NAS units, by the way :)

Richdog 15.01.2015 15:09

Re: Synology recommendation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil_MCR (Post 2319107)
I need to get a NAS that can contain 2 SSDs in RAID1 for concurrent file access.

Can you recommend an appropriate Synology device or other brand. Automated encrypted backups would be a plus. Thanks.

Get the DS414 Slim, perfect size and some room for future expandability https://www.synology.com/en-uk/products/DS414slim

Bananahead 15.01.2015 20:47

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Originally Posted by Phil_MCR (Post 2319621)
noise and heat. in reverse order.



I have two 214play with two regular WD Red drives that sit in their respective living rooms that are al-but silent. The flashing LEDs are more intrusive by a long way.

Harrie Nak 16.01.2015 00:18

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Synology all the way. Costs a bit more, but the DSM software (and the long-time support), options and available packages cannot be beaten by any other brand (including QNAP) in my opinion. Make sure to get WD Red drives with it.

Phil_MCR 16.01.2015 00:34

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Originally Posted by Bananahead (Post 2319991)
I have two 214play with two regular WD Red drives that sit in their respective living rooms that are al-but silent. The flashing LEDs are more intrusive by a long way.

The device will be locked in a safe, so LEDs will not be visible. It is the heat build-up that is the concern.

Bananahead 16.01.2015 08:26

Re: Synology recommendation
 
Have you tried asking Synology or posting on their forum?

Sean Connery 16.01.2015 08:33

Re: Synology recommendation
 
You will need to allow some ventilation otherwise the little heat will build up over time and certainly shorten the lifespan of the unit.

What are you trying to do?

me.anon 16.01.2015 09:31

Re: Synology recommendation
 
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Originally Posted by Phil_MCR (Post 2320137)
The device will be locked in a safe, so LEDs will not be visible. It is the heat build-up that is the concern.

If it's a fire safe, it will be hermetically sealed so how would you get the cables into it ? If you drill a hole in it, you will compromise it somehow.

I have some experience with Synology, some now good, because I have a DS212J Model. Shortly after purchasing it (from STEG) I noticed that it would often have problems transferring large Windows files, say > 2 GB. I spent some time sending logs etc. to the Synology help desk and they finally thought it must be the hard disk controller, so I took it back to the retailer. Despite seeing all the emails describing the problem, they insisted they wanted to do their own test. Anyway, after about 3 weeks, I got a replacement unit and that has worked perfectly. The moral here is, like in many other cases, buy from somewhere you can, if necessary, return it.

Richdog 16.01.2015 10:32

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Originally Posted by Phil_MCR (Post 2320137)
The device will be locked in a safe, so LEDs will not be visible. It is the heat build-up that is the concern.

In a safe? And you plan to connect it... how? :D

me.anon 16.01.2015 10:43

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One other thing, ensure that any disks you purchase are on the compatibility list for the model you purchase, because, if you have a problem, this is one of the first things they check. https://www.synology.com/en-us/compatibility/hd

dandi 16.01.2015 11:43

Re: Synology recommendation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil_MCR (Post 2320137)
The device will be locked in a safe, so LEDs will not be visible. It is the heat build-up that is the concern.

Well, whichever NAS and drives you get, SSD or otherwise, you'll need to ensure substantial air flow, whether using a fan or not. All the electricity used by the NAS turns into heat and that has to go somewhere. I'm not sure how that can be achieved within a safe, perhaps one with a metal mesh of some sorts? Meshes have poor airflow so you'll need a fan, etc.

If all you want is to protect your data just store it encrypted and keep copies of it at different locations. Why bother with a bunker?

Corbets 16.01.2015 12:03

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Originally Posted by dandi (Post 2320366)
If all you want is to protect your data just store it encrypted and keep copies of it at different locations. Why bother with a bunker?

Because attacks against many encryption systems are feasible if you have physical access to a running system? :rolleyes:

GenevaSculler 16.01.2015 12:11

Re: Synology recommendation
 
I recently bought a DS214+. Very happy so far - I'm not IT expert but asked a few friends who are and all recommended Snology.

I'm interested to hear how you plan to run it in a safe though!

dandi 16.01.2015 12:44

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Originally Posted by Corbets (Post 2320380)
Because attacks against many encryption systems are feasible if you have physical access to a running system? :rolleyes:

You have a point here... in the realms of all possibilities... but is physically breaking into a safe really more difficult than getting access to a running system's memory to steal an encryption key or volatile decrypted data? Provided one has blocked the usual IO ports? That seems more tricky to me than using a circular saw... Or maybe I'm missing something?

Phil_MCR 16.01.2015 12:55

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Originally Posted by Richdog (Post 2320303)
In a safe? And you plan to connect it... how? :D

some smaller safes have holes in the back or bottom to allow for fixing to the wall/floor.


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