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New Paypal [imposter] scam

Heres an E-mail that was supposed to be from Paypal. Its scam-these people who send such idiot mails are so dumm!!
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Old 29.01.2015, 08:58
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Re: New Paypal scam

And the ones who fall for it are dumber
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Old 29.01.2015, 09:55
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.....and the ones that pass it on ?

(maybe lets not go their after all)
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Old 29.01.2015, 10:03
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Re: New Paypal scam

To be fair, these scams usually look authentic and if you are not aware of the amount of scams going on, it's quite easy to be duped. It has less to do with being "dumb" and more to do with being aware of how to check if an email is valid or not.

I continuously get scam mail from UBS, Itunes, Visa (which I don't even own), etc... which look and sound authentic until I check out the sender's address.

Scammers prey on lack of knowledge and insecurity. Unfortunately, it's usually the good-hearted, law-obeying people who fall for it.
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Old 29.01.2015, 10:06
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Re: New Paypal scam

Ahhh, could you, uhh, spell this one out? I have a friend that is dumb, .., right, and they would like to know what's up.

[more the point, I can't copy paste from the image to mangle the german content]

thanks in advance.

[believe it or not, I've only opened a paypal account this month]
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Old 29.01.2015, 10:21
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Re: New Paypal scam

Hmm! Looks totally legit to me
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Re: New Paypal scam

…that WAS me being funny, just in case you didn't get it…!
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Old 29.01.2015, 10:28
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Ahhh, could you, uhh, spell this one out? I have a friend that is dumb, .., right, and they would like to know what's up.

[more the point, I can't copy paste from the image to mangle the german content]

thanks in advance.

[believe it or not, I've only opened a paypal account this month]
Never ever ever ever go to a "paypal" (or indeed any banking or any other service) link from an email you receive. Always open a new tab and directly access the service.

See here: https://www.paypal.com/webapps/mpp/s...ouspotphishing
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What annoys me about this sort of post is the veiled insult that people think we need to bew alerted of such scams, that we are too stupid to see for ourselves that it's a scam.

We all know it goes on, we all know not to give any details out, we all know to look at the email address to see if there is even a hint of BS, yet people still think it's necessary to propegate and fill up our in boxes with such crap, implying we are too stupid to see for ourselves.
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Old 29.01.2015, 10:55
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Re: New Paypal scam

I think many here are missing the real issue. My dad worked as a police office in the fraud division for several years. The scams are clearly not meant to take advantage of most of the readers on this board. The real victims of these scams are the elderly, many of which are not thinking as clearly as they used to. Although not many elderly likely have Paypal accounts, it has been around long enough now that some users are now reaching the elderly stage. The scam is essentially cost free to send so they just need a few victims to make it worth while. So I think it would be a bit more compassionate to do away with the "stupid" talk. All of us will be losing our mental capacities at some point....some of us (me included and I'm not even elderly) already have
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We all know it goes on, we all know not to give any details out, we all know to look at the email address to see if there is even a hint of BS, yet people still think it's necessary to propegate and fill up our in boxes with such crap, implying we are too stupid to see for ourselves.
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Tks Olygirl, it's not arogance (this time) but we are all more than aware of these scams, every week we hear something and it continually amazes me These still work, that people are still giving out critical info over the internet as somebody asked for it, depsite the banks repeatedly saying they would never ask for it !

I guess sooner we go to biometric scanners or fingerprint readers this will resolve some of the problem.

I'm not sure who said this first.... "Everyone has a right to be stupid. Some just abuse the privilege"
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Old 29.01.2015, 11:16
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Re: New Paypal scam

Many people think that posting your real name on an internet forum is "dumb".
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Old 29.01.2015, 11:36
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Never ever ever ever go to a "paypal" (or indeed any banking or any other service) link from an email you receive. Always open a new tab and directly access the service.

See here: https://www.paypal.com/webapps/mpp/security/antiphishing-canyouspotphishing
I see what you did there.
PS: I fixed your link.
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Never ever ever ever go to a "paypal" (or indeed any banking or any other service) link from an email you receive. Always open a new tab and directly access the service.

See here: https://www.paypal.com/webapps/mpp/s...ouspotphishing
Naturally, I was just curious as the the german specifics, but I presume it was simply posing as official.

With linkedin connection requests I always confirm the request through linkedin. I received one recently where viewing the original html content showed only a single 3 character discrepancy from confirmed linkedin messages, but no such request was made in system.

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Re: New Paypal scam

Then don't read the post in the first place.....dummy!
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We all know it goes on, we all know not to give any details out, we all know to look at the email address to see if there is even a hint of BS, yet people still think it's necessary to propegate and fill up our in boxes with such crap, implying we are too stupid to see for ourselves.
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Re: New Paypal scam

The only thing more annoying than receiving a phishing email, is some absolute numpty then racing to the interwebs to make a thread about it as though it's some new concept that we all suddenly need to be aware of.

It's been happening for years already, get over it.
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To be fair, these scams usually look authentic [...]
In a slightly more sane world, best practice advice would be to take one's MUA's cues on the authenticity of the message, where the MUA has the means to validate the message's signing key.

Unfortunately, almost no service providers digitally sign email, and we haven't got as far as we should with automatic key validation. Though even a simple CA system would be better than nothing.

Paypal send out messages saying things like "How do I know this is not a Spoof email? Spoof or 'phishing' emails tend to have generic greetings such as 'Dear PayPal member'. Emails from PayPal will always contain your full name". So they are training people to be phished if the phisher can get their full name right.

Bank of Scotland "want [me] to recognise a fraudulent email if [I] receive one. Band of Scotland will always greet you personally using your title and surname [...]". Similarly, then, Bank of Scotland are training their customers to be phished.

Santander includes my postcode to "authenticate" the email. Same problem. They are training customers to be phished.

The only service provider I've used who sign their emails is Andrews and Arnold, a small UK ISP.

The entire rest of the world appears to be too ignorant or stupid to realise how they should be using email. Even as web sites increasingly and belatedly move to HTTPS-only for anything that matters, there seems to be a tacit agreement that no one should bother using similar technology to secure email.
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I guess sooner we go to biometric scanners or fingerprint readers this will resolve some of the problem.
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I'm not sure who said this first.... "Everyone has a right to be stupid. Some just abuse the privilege"
For someone who's awfully arrogant and uncaring about those people who fall for such scams, you sure haven't got a clue what you're tallking about. How is replacing the authentication mechanism supposed to help when the problem is not circumvention of the existing mechanism, but a social engineering attack?

Lay off, little dude. I don't need any help identifying a phishing email either, but it doesn't hurt me in any way if someone decides to post it - and indeed, the ONLY effective mitigation for such attacks is ongoing training and awareness.
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Off topic :

Anyone has paypal credit for sale ? something around 300 CHF .
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