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[civil] Right to have a satellite dish [in Germany]

Apparently in Baden-Wüttemburg (maybe even Germany as a whole) foreigners are legally entitled to put a TV satellite dish on their rented apartment. Anyone know any more about this, and whether such a entitlement exists in CH ?
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Re: Rights to a German dish

possibly something to do with télévision sans frontiers?
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Re: [civil] Right to have a satellite dish [in Germany]

Well this is interesting. In today's Le Matin Bleu (a free Swiss-based French-language paper similar to 20 minutes/minuten) the advice column covered this subject. Note it applies to both owners and renters. Seems you have the right to your dish after all.


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Translated from "Le droit ŕ la bonne parabole", Le Matin Bleu, Wednesday Nov 29, 2006, pg. 15.

I installed a small satellite dish on my PPE [note=Propriété Par Etage, roughly equal to a condominium] in order to receive English channels not available through cable. The administration is trying to force me to remove it. Do they have the right?

No, at least not unless your building is subjected to cantonal protection for monuments or countryside. In effect, the Federal Law on radio and TV (LRTV) sanctions the freedom of reception of both Swiss and foreign programs. It does leave the possibility for cantons to prohibit the installation of external antennae in two situations:

-when the protection of the landscape, monuments and historical or natural sites is required.
-when the desired channels can be received other than through an exterior antenna.

In your case, the administrator cannot claim the second exception because the English channels you wish to receive are not provided by the cable in your building. Regarding the argument for the protection of the building or its surroundings, this cannot be put forward lightly because this is based on cantonal legislation, and is not a simple rule of the PPE. [Note: This basically means the administration cannot arbitrarily claim you can't put up a dish on the grounds that you'll ruin the building or it's surroundings. The building or area has to be designated by the canton as listed or protected before your admin can argue you're ruining the building or surroundings.]

This is also true for renters. The gérances [management] cannot refuse the installation of a parabolic dish under the conditions of the federal law on radio and TV, whatever they say in the lease contract, the terms of rental or building rules.
Full text available as a pdf here (in French only).

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Re: [civil] Right to have a satellite dish [in Germany]

If this is correct, then my attitude (put more strongly than I did HAT's earlier thread) is installed and be damned
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Well this is interesting. In today's Le Matin Bleu (a free Swiss-based French-language paper similar to 20 minutes/minuten) the advice column covered this subject. Note it applies to both owners and renters. Seems you have the right to your dish after all.



Full text available on the le matin bleu website (requires registration; in French only).

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Re: [civil] Right to have a satellite dish [in Germany]

Lets have a party! Great news! I was almost going to give in to Cablecom... Thanks!
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Re: [civil] Right to have a satellite dish [in Germany]

EDITED/DELETED POST: Please see the next post for official documentation of the law.

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Re: [civil] Right to have a satellite dish [in Germany]

For those looking for the official word on this, here's the law, in French and German, taken from the Swiss Federal archives. Articles 66 and 67 explicitly state what was summarised in the Le Matin Bleu article.



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Re: [civil] Right to have a satellite dish [in Germany]

The link doesn't work and I may need the law in it's original form. Please could someone repost?
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Re: [civil] Right to have a satellite dish [in Germany]

Please ignore above post, it suddenly appeared.
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Re: [civil] Right to have a satellite dish [in Germany]

Glad the link's working again. It might also be helpful to google 'LRTV parabole' and read through the search results. There are a number of webpages and articles that discuss your right to have a dish in Switzerland. These might also serve as useful references if you get in a dispute with landlords or neighbours.
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Re: [civil] Right to have a satellite dish [in Germany]

Hi

The links above to the legal information about the right to install a satellite dish don't seem to be working again. I'm struggling with this as I'm being told by my landlord that I can't install a dish. Does anyone have any other official sources of information I can quote to prove that this right exists?

Many thanks
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Re: [civil] Right to have a satellite dish [in Germany]

I juszt wanted to correct/extend the information in the first post in this thread. German law says foreigners (or maybe everybody) have a right to receive information from their homeland. The German courts have interpreted this law as meaning foreigners can have a satellite dish. It is normally better to mention this to the landlord after moving in...
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Re: [civil] Right to have a satellite dish [in Germany]

Another thread discussing the right to have/install a satellite dish in CH.
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Re: [civil] Right to have a satellite dish [in Germany]

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Well this is interesting. In today's Le Matin Bleu (a free Swiss-based French-language paper similar to 20 minutes/minuten) the advice column covered this subject. Note it applies to both owners and renters. Seems you have the right to your dish after all.


Full text available as a pdf here (in French only).

Cheers,

HeatherM

Hi Heather,
I'm sure many residents of Switzerland are thankful for your research into the dish dilemia? In the USA for many years Home Owner Associations (HOA) tried to legislate dish placement or banned them outright as unsightly. The federal gov't stepped in and said everyone had the right to install a dish and no State or municipality could say otherwise.

We also have State legislation that says no municipality can deny any household from installing any alternate energy sources. (Windmills, solar cells or other external power saving devices.
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