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Old 05.12.2016, 21:27
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iPad pro or Macbook pro ?

I'll start this with a disclaimer, Apples for me are something to eat !

I have to get a news computer for my wife, currently she has an old mac book pro from about 2009 and wants a new one.

Not excessive use, Internet, bit of Word, bit of Excel, movies, bit of on-line banking, skype/whatsup and photos is the basic use.

I like the Mac Book Pro 13" retina with touch bar.

She has an iPhone (6s/128gb) an iPad.

What model do i buy and why ?

All help gratefully accepted.

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Old 05.12.2016, 21:37
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Re: iPad pro or Macbook pro ?

New or second-hand Macbook Air or the Macbook (non Pro). The new Pros are crazy over-priced.

The iPad Pro isn't a computer, it's a tablet. Same OS and apps as her iPhone, just with a pencil to stab at the screen and draw things.
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Old 05.12.2016, 21:39
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Re: iPad pro or Macbook pro ?

But the retina display is orgasmic eye candy.
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Old 05.12.2016, 21:52
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But the retina display is orgasmic eye candy.
It is. A second-hand one from 2013 or 2014 would be perfect (I have a 2013 Macbook Retina). The new ones are stupidly priced.
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Old 05.12.2016, 23:00
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Re: iPad pro or Macbook pro ?

The touch bar sounds ridiculous to me not to mention the lack of any standard port. I'm happy with an older retina mac. If it dies one day I don't know if I will stay with mac, dell XPS 13" 4k with ubuntu is also awesome.

I had iPad but I realised I don't have time to use it as anytime I wanted to use internet I quickly realised that I need the keyboard so I switched to laptop. Finally I donated the iPad as it was barely used by me.
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It is. A second-hand one from 2013 or 2014 would be perfect (I have a 2013 Macbook Retina). The new ones are stupidly priced.
I moved to Macs when I realized I had little desire to keep fannying around with PCs

2007 iMac which is used for downloading/media
2013 MBP for everything except for
2010 Air for travel
iPhone 6 - which I am reluctant to upgrade due to the lack of a effing headphone socket

Mrs DK has just bought a 27" iMac - I have screen jealousy.
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Mrs DK has just bought a 27" iMac - I have screen jealousy.
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New or second-hand Macbook Air or the Macbook (non Pro). The new Pros are crazy over-priced.
I'd get the MacBook or MacBook Air, also. Don't need the pro for that kind of usage. Get a MacBook not the iPad... there are things that you just can't do/won't work on an iPad, also I don't think you can alter the screen angle in respect to the keyboard, or balance it on your knees when using keyboard.
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Re: iPad pro or Macbook pro ?

Macbook Pro total overkill for her needs IMHO
Vote for Macbook Air 13", will allow her to do the typing and other things not so easy with the iPad, nice camera and speakers for video calls, extremely portable, and SSD drive usually hold up well. If go the used route, lots of good deals out there on used market too but try to buy newer (< 2 years old) due to battery cycles/life (they do wear out and age.) Good luck!
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New or second-hand Macbook Air or the Macbook (non Pro). The new Pros are crazy over-priced.
Couldn't agree more.

I have a 15" i7 MacBook Pro Retina from 2-3 years ago, and would buy that over the current range of MacBooks any day of the week.

So, if you can get one of the previous models (with "real" USB 3.0 sockets, and without the $300 Touch Bar gimic) then go for that.
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Re: iPad pro or Macbook pro ?

Reviving this since my question is quite related and things have changed in the last four years.

The Macbook Air my dad gave me (once he was sick of it, lol) for university is slowly on its way out (early 2012 model, it's no longer allowing me to download updates and has randomly crashed a few times, once losing some documents). Seeing as I'm in the middle of my masters thesis I'm nervous as a cat that this thing is going to tank on me before I've finished. Obviously I'm backing up to an external drive frequently.

In the meantime, I'm looking at the new Macbook Air models and choking a bit at the 1'000+ franc price tag, especially since I'm a spoiled child who has always received perfectly good hand me down electronics haha. My dad encouraged me to look at the iPad offerings to see if a tablet could do what I needed with a cheaper price tag—basically, writing Word documents with one of those detachable keyboards, surfing the net for articles etc., as well as applications like Zotero and CLAN if possible, though I'd love for my uni career to be over soon so that's not needed afterwards. Simple video/audio/photo processing and editing would be a huge plus but not necessary. Ability to print documents a necessity, although I suppose one can get around that by emailing documents to a laptop/computer ... in short, does anyone have experience with the recent tablet offerings from Apple? Do they get the job done, or is it a completely different animal and I'd be better off with another Air ? My friends at uni are split, with the ones who love tablets having nearly always used them since they first came out whilst the ones who prefer laptops haven't really ever used a tablet, so they haven't honestly been as helpful as I could have hoped. I am a bit stuck on Apple products. My husband keeps telling me to just go PC but I've tried on and off with his old laptop and I just prefer Apple. I'm not keen on switching everything up in the middle of this thesis either—I'll already be switching to a different keyboard if I get an Air (iPad would probably be not too hard to get it to run an American keyboard?) and the last thing I want is to spent a month just adjusting to a PC system when I could be writing more efficiently on a machine I know better.
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Re: iPad pro or Macbook pro ?

My mind just wasn't at peace when dissertating, nor my cohorts', either, unless we saved our stuff on a couple of external drives/whatever media and a couple of clouds. It is just a part of the deal. Set it automatically and you don't need to worry.

I was ok with a super light PC, would get a Mac if the hardware was really that much more quality. I am not persuaded, though. Still think that a laptop is better than a tablet, even now when tablets are way more than just a screen to scrible on. That said you said that you spent years on Mac, PC might bug you and that's unwelcome when finishing a big project.
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Re: iPad pro or Macbook pro ?

Entry-level 13" MacBook Pro.


Ideally though, try to reach for 16GB of RAM.

There might be the announcement of the first Apple Silicon device in November.
It may be a notebook. It may not.

You can always wait for Black Friday deals....
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Re: iPad pro or Macbook pro ?

Any peripherals?

The retina MacBooks (12") are nice, too.

The Core-m5/256 GB should do for most users.

You need adapters galore, if you want to connect anything legacy. But USB-C is the standard of the future. So, if you don't have invested a lot in "legacy"-devices, it's a good notebook.

That said, the non-touchbar 13" rMBP is also nice - and at least has a removable SSD. But no legacy connectors, either.

Apple was always good at getting rid of old cruft in hardware.
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Old 05.12.2016, 23:43
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Re: iPad pro or Macbook pro ?

Getting rid of "old crud" would be ok if it was actually old.

Basically, if you go to the Apple store now and buy the latest iPhone and latest Macbook Pro, you can't connect them to each other without a dongle.

Even the magsafe port has gone.

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Re: iPad pro or Macbook pro ?

So, there's no direct lightning to usb-c cable, yet?

(Not my problem, as I don't have the latest iPhone and never connect it to the work rMB 2016).
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So, there's no direct lightning to usb-c cable, yet?

(Not my problem, as I don't have the latest iPhone and never connect it to the work rMB 2016).
Whether there is or not, it's not shipped with either the phone or the laptop so has to be bought separately.
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Whether there is or not, it's not shipped with either the phone or the laptop so has to be bought separately.

Yeah, that's a bit of a bummer.
But then, they'd either have to ship two cable/power-plugs (the power-plug would need an USB-C socket) or some sort of adapter.
Or a lot more SKUs.

At the scale of the iPhone, that's actually quite a lot of e-waste.
The amount of people who buy an iPhone 7 and a notebook with USB-C is actually rather small (compared to the absolute number of iPhone buyers).

The upshot is that they maintained legacy USB compatibility with the iPhone 7 - what all the people are whining about when they didn't do in the MacBookPros....


They'll sort it out with the next iPhone, I'm sure ;-)
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Getting rid of "old crud" would be ok if it was actually old.

Basically, if you go to the Apple store now and buy the latest iPhone and latest Macbook Pro, you can't connect them to each other without a dongle.

Even the magsafe port has gone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XSC_UG5_kU
While it's a true statement .. and a kinda strange concept for us old timers.

Why would you want to connect them together? The only reason i can think it might be useful is to charge the phone maybe, but you'd use a charger for that usually no?

Everything else can be done without a physical connection between the devices.
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While it's a true statement .. and a kinda strange concept for us old timers.

Why would you want to connect them together? The only reason i can think it might be useful is to charge the phone maybe, but you'd use a charger for that usually no?

Everything else can be done without a physical connection between the devices.
Not quite true - if you have to do a DFU reset on an iToy then it needs to be connected to a computer via USB to reinstall the OS and the baseband firmware.

Also using a wired connection is mostly faster than using WiFi, which helps an awful lot if you're frequently transferring large amounts of data.

But apart from that you're right.
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