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Re: 4TB recommendations

Two things to be aware of:

First, if you get say a Synology with bundled 4tb drives, then normally it is two drives, the arrays are mirrored as backups of each other in case one fails.... so you get 2tb of actual storage.

Second, the synology comes with it's own "operating system" called Diskstation plus... the more powerful ones come with their own plex server so you could ditch the mac as storage device. I use that and plex on apple tv.... stream from the nas to apple tv. Works well enough, so far. I had mine a couple months.
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Re: NAS recommendations

Hi,

QNAP offers a lot of versatility and reliability. The upload phone photos to NAS is a nice feature, maybe all can do this.

The box itself was cheap, the 16TB of red drives, was expensive.

The one thing I do not like about it, is the slow processor and the limited memory.

https://www.qnap.com/en/product/model.php?II=12

Media Markt have an updated version available
https://shop.mediamarkt.ch/mobile/de...s/idpc3x3ydptb
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https://shop.mediamarkt.ch/mobile/de...s/idpc3x3ydptb
Microserver is a better deal, double the slots, double the ram and almost half the price.
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Re: NAS recommendations

I think so too, but I did not want to go down the homebrew route, i.e. filer, etc.

Maybe I will someday.
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Microserver is a better deal, double the slots, double the ram and almost half the price.
And if you already have a Syno, then you can run xpenology on the Microserver. It takes a certain number of propellorhead merit badges to get it set up (The boot loader isn't always up to the same level as Syno's DSM) but the two will integrate seamlessly, and once it's set up it just sits there and serves stuff.

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Old 10.12.2016, 00:27
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Hmm, seems corbets might be right, I can get a 4TB WD external HD for 175.- from digitec.
This is the guy I use for music etc.
http://www.conrad.ch/ce/de/product/1...f=searchDetail

With the thunderbolt interface it is as fast as many internal drives. And of course it travels with ease.
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HGST aka Hitachi is the brand
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Re: NAS recommendations

I found this article on google
http://www.deskdecode.com/top-best-4...nthly-updated/
and they suggest me to buy Seagate Barracuda.
how about that?
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Kinjo,

I've had 12 * 4TB WD Green running 24/7 in servers and NAS units since they first came out (which I think is close to 5 years ago). 8 of them were replacements for earlier 2TB WD Greens also running 24/7 until I needed more space. Of those 20 WD Green discs, one single unit was DOA when I first plugged it in (and the store replaced it no questions asked). All 20 of these disks are still in 24/7/365 use, and are NOT in an air conditioned server room. The original 2 TB discs are well past their rated thermal life, as are the newer 4TB units, bit they all still work fine.
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I found this article on google
http://www.deskdecode.com/top-best-4...nthly-updated/
and they suggest me to buy Seagate Barracuda.
how about that?
Seagates are the only drives that have failed on me, several of them. WD all day long.
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http://www.deskdecode.com/top-best-4...nthly-updated/
and they suggest me to buy Seagate Barracuda.
how about that?
Bullshit article, all talk and no hard stats

Here's a better one: https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-...stats-q1-2016/

(Beware, They use and test mostly the slower 5200rpm drives though, as it's for archival storage; but you can gather conclusions anyway what brands are worth the money)
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Microserver is a better deal, double the slots, double the ram and almost half the price.
The advantage I see running a NAS is I can just access it's GUI via a browser to configure it etc once it's on the network......would I be able to do the same with a microserver even if it's running windows 10?
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The advantage I see running a NAS is I can just access it's GUI via a browser to configure it etc once it's on the network......would I be able to do the same with a microserver even if it's running windows 10?

It depends on the OS that you install on the Microserver. If you want to run win10 on the Microserver then you don't need to have a keyboard and screen connected to the microserver all the time. Once you've got it set up you can configure it to accept incoming RDP sessions and connect to it that way.

I'm not sure I would choose win10 as the OS for a NAS myself, but that is a different matter. Google "open source NAS" to see the range of possibilities.
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It depends on the OS that you install on the Microserver. If you want to run win10 on the Microserver then you don't need to have a keyboard and screen connected to the microserver all the time. Once you've got it set up you can configure it to accept incoming RDP sessions and connect to it that way.

I'm not sure I would choose win10 as the OS for a NAS myself, but that is a different matter. Google "open source NAS" to see the range of possibilities.
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Re: NAS recommendations

Thoughts on whether this would be good enough for Plex on-the-fly encoding?

https://www.digitec.ch/en/s1/product...ervers-5661509

It's significantly cheaper than the other Microservers. I'd have reservations on that CPU spec for a desktop machine, but don't know whether a server CPU may be more efficient perhaps

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Thoughts on whether this would be good enough for Plex on-the-fly encoding?

https://www.digitec.ch/en/s1/product...ervers-5661509

It's significantly cheaper than the other Microservers. I'd have reservations on that CPU spec for a desktop machine, but don't know whether a server CPU may be more efficient perhaps

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Always hard to tell. It depends on what else is being thrown at the CPU, how complicated the transcoding is, what NAS package you are running, etc, etc,

As a rough reference point:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...lview?sle=true
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The advantage I see running a NAS is I can just access it's GUI via a browser to configure it etc once it's on the network......would I be able to do the same with a microserver even if it's running windows 10?
Microserver has ILO, You can manage it via IP, manage BIOS settings, switch it on remotely, install OS via intellient provisioning. I run a number of apps on one of mine which all have web interfaces for management and configuration. Never had a keyboard, mouse or monitor connected to either.
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Thoughts on whether this would be good enough for Plex on-the-fly encoding?

https://www.digitec.ch/en/s1/product...ervers-5661509

It's significantly cheaper than the other Microservers. I'd have reservations on that CPU spec for a desktop machine, but don't know whether a server CPU may be more efficient perhaps

thanks
"Good news is it easily transcodes plex using only about 30% for a transcode from 1080p 10mbps to 720p 3mbs to my Android S4 phone"...

https://www.avforums.com/threads/hp-...1783788/page-2
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The advantage I see running a NAS is I can just access it's GUI via a browser to configure it etc once it's on the network......would I be able to do the same with a microserver even if it's running windows 10?
You can put e.g. FreeNAS on it and get the same GUI experience as with other commerial NAS.

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Thoughts on whether this would be good enough for Plex on-the-fly encoding?

https://www.digitec.ch/en/s1/product...ervers-5661509

It's significantly cheaper than the other Microservers. I'd have reservations on that CPU spec for a desktop machine, but don't know whether a server CPU may be more efficient perhaps
That's the good deal I was talking about. You won't get a much better processor for this budget. On Microserver, you can upgrade to a Xeon, but the processor alone will cost about as much as the base machine itself. (Cheaper if you'd source the processor used from ebay or something, I got mine for ~ $100)
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You can put e.g. FreeNAS on it and get the same GUI experience as with other commerial NAS.


That's the good deal I was talking about. You won't get a much better processor for this budget. On Microserver, you can upgrade to a Xeon, but the processor alone will cost about as much as the base machine alone. (Cheaper if you'd source the processor used from ebay or something, I got mine for ~ $100)
No need for the upgrade. 4GB RAM and the Celeron runs Windows Server 2012 like a champ. Note that the linked deal shows the Microserver with an optical drive which is actually an additional cost (about half as much as the whole box iirc). Just get a cheap external one.
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