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I'd go a bit further in this case; The Beyerdynamic DT770 is a preferred choice of drummers and has great isolation and comfort. You can get it in 80 ohm or 250 ohm if your headphone amp can drive it. I use this:

Schiit Asgard 2

But I think the OP needs something portable (talk of using it in shops), so perhaps not.
You can also get it in 32Ω as well, which does drive well from a phone. Now as far as I love Beyer headphones the treble on the DT770 is extreme - great for mixing, but not particularly musical and quite painful with some tracks. The DT1770 on the other hand corrects this, and also has a lot more natural sounding detail.

I've not had the pleasure of hearing Schiit stuff, but by all accounts they're very good. However since I got my Chord Mojo I'm unlikely to bother with any other amp/DAC combo costing less than a couple of grand - which basically means I'm not going to bother with anything else at all.
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You can also get it in 32Ω as well, which does drive well from a phone. Now as far as I love Beyer headphones the treble on the DT770 is extreme - great for mixing, but not particularly musical and quite painful with some tracks. The DT1770 on the other hand corrects this, and also has a lot more natural sounding detail.
We're talking here about Beyer's famous 6k and 10k peaks. I don't think the 770 is particularly bad in this regard (I think the 880 (semi-open) has a worse treble peak); but, of course, ears and neural processing does vary (which is why you should always try these things out) and different amps will handle this differently. For me the 770 has excellent bass response and control, very detailed and slightly laid-back midrange, and with a bit of an edge to the treble (which may be described as being from sparking to strident). The soundstage is very precise and detailed and I think these are closed headphones that have a lot of the desirable attributes of open headphones. For the price (about 130), they're very good value for money.

I've tried the 1770. It's built like an armour-plated version of the 770 and has excellent build quality, but the bass is much woollier than the 770. The midrange feels about the same and they've certainly cut the treble a bit, but it doesn't feel as detailed as the 770. My feeling is that they're a bit 'slower' in response and this may be due to the higher-output Tesla drivers. (I'm not sure why this is needed since we're not really short of headphone amp power these days.) I think at the price (about 500), they're not such good value for money and are competing with good open headphones in that range.

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I've not had the pleasure of hearing Schiit stuff, but by all accounts they're very good. However since I got my Chord Mojo I'm unlikely to bother with any other amp/DAC combo costing less than a couple of grand - which basically means I'm not going to bother with anything else at all.
The Chord Mojo is an absolute gem (anybody who homebrews an FPGA DAC isn't messing around...) and is pretty much the polar opposite to the Asgard (apart from both having solid aluminium cases).

The Schiit is rather 'old school' and uses discrete MOSFET in class A single-ended (ok, there is no other kind of single-ended) biased at 80V to push it well into the linear zone. It draws 30W whether anything is playing or not and uses the thick aluminium case as the heatsink which becomes fairly hot to the touch (even the volume control gets a bit warm). It doesn't even have a DAC (so you need a separate one if you're not listening to vinyl...), but Schiit make these as well.

The sound is a slightly warm with some upper roll-off (maybe suits Beyers...). It reminds me a bit of a tube amp. It's also got phono outs which are linked to the volume control and so is very handy for driving active monitors if you're not using the headphones. It's quirky but nice and I very much like its sound. I'd say its only downside is the annoyingly bright white LED on the front, but this is quickly solved with a bit of sticky tape. (One day I'll take it apart and do a real fix, but the tape works fine.)
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Re: Headphones for introverts.. Anyone have a good suggestion?

Just make sure you don't fall asleep with the headphones on you head.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ne-flight.html
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Just make sure you don't fall asleep with the headphones on you head.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ne-flight.html
oh crap - would have helped if they'd named the manufacturer, to be honest. In any case, I can already see the next ban coming. I hope it wasn't Bose :-/ The Quietcomfort line has been the workhorse for frequent fliers for years - if they ban those, people will be seriously p*****.
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Re: Headphones for introverts.. Anyone have a good suggestion?

I bought a pair of Parrot Ziks and love them. Great for flights and the daily commute. Also an app to help adjust the sound and level of noise cancelling.

Really recommend them

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I don't get it, I'm looking for headphones that are

- over-ear (best i would have thought for passive-noise-cancelling) not on-ear

- active-noise-cancelling

- passive-noise-cancelling (like the Howard Leight shooting ones)

- wireless/blootooth

- nice decent sound

- comfortable on ear and top of head

I can't seem to find this holy grail,

The active-noise-cancelling are usually on-ear (squishing them) and don't have much passive-noise-canceling,

Ive returned two already, i can't go on like this.

What is an introverted girl to do?

Any ideas?
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oh crap - would have helped if they'd named the manufacturer, to be honest. In any case, I can already see the next ban coming. I hope it wasn't Bose :-/ The Quietcomfort line has been the workhorse for frequent fliers for years - if they ban those, people will be seriously p*****.
She was on a flight from Beijing. I'm guessing she picked these headphones up for next to nothing from one of these electronic tat shops that are all over the place in big city China.

Now, having had a lot of experience with cheap no name Chinese products I can honestly say the quality is terrible. Most recently we got 6 dirt cheap bluetooth earphones that we ordered from ali express (they were 2 CHF a piece) 2 failed to charge whatsoever, the battery was already expanded in one, and in another the battery started smoking as it was charging.

Outside of the big manufacturers such as Foxconn, Pegatron etc, and brand names such as Fiio, the quality of electronic stuff being made by small no names in China is atrocious.
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Re: Headphones for introverts.. Anyone have a good suggestion?

it all depends . Do you want the exploding type or just normal? http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/880875/...t-to-australia

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Re: Headphones for introverts.. Anyone have a good suggestion?

http://www.theverge.com/2017/2/13/14...dphones-review

I read this very recently as i'm also looking for something similar, but not sure I can justify shelling out 400 euros for headphones!
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Re: Headphones for introverts.. Anyone have a good suggestion?

Maybe something in this article will be helpful:

http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/bes...ng-headphones/
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Re: Headphones for introverts.. Anyone have a good suggestion?

Or just get Etymotic hf5.
https://www.digitec.ch/en/s1/product...eadsets-373099
Its designed by the company that works with hearing aid systems. Comes with 5 different types of earplugs, of which a pair are the actual foam earplugs.

https://www.digitec.ch/en/s1/product...ds-tips-373608

I use it when I operate noisy machinery at work.
Blocks the outside nicely, and the sound quality is better than anything in the price class. Had a pair of Chf150 senheisers before, these sound way way better .

Downside? - It has to be absolutely airtight, or you loose low frequencies.
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Go for the QC35, the noise cancellation on them is like some sort of magic. I usually shop with them on.


funny, I do the same many times, just activate, put on and make the world noise free
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Interdiscount XXL stores (the big ones) have the QC 35 in Black and Silver on special for CHF 319 (20.03 - 26.03.2017). Of course in the limits of stock. You can order on-line as well.

This is the best price in the market at the moment. And you get Coop points with the purchase.
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I think the Teufel is the better headphone for 100 CHF less:

https://www.teufel.de/ch/kopfhoerer/...opfhoerer.html
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Or just get Etymotic hf5.
https://www.digitec.ch/en/s1/product...eadsets-373099

Downside? - It has to be absolutely airtight, or you loose low frequencies.
Deep in-the-ear phones are not for everyone, but they are brilliant at passive noise cancelling. On flights the nice thing is you can sleep on your side.

Other downside is the wire tends to break internally quite quickly. Im onto my 5th pair (over the last 10 years or so).

The company actually started doing the in the ear monitors for musicians and noise protection plugs, and has some very expensive models including bespoke earpieces.
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Re: Headphones for introverts.. Anyone have a good suggestion?

I am wearing the qc35s

the ear holes are just a little too small

I don't think it excludes noise that passive noise cancelling headphones (howard leight) easily exclude.

the are not as comfy as I think the reviews seem to say, the howard leights are more comfortable.

I tried these active noise cancelling 7dayshop ones before and if they didn't hurt my ears (small ear holes) they are really quite good (sound quality is quite good and active noise cancelling is about the same as bose and passive noise cancelling is no better or worse than bose) and often at 10% of the price of bose. The quality of the bose is a bit cheap but not as cheap as the 7dayshop ones, the 7dayshop ones have a built in fault that they will break with moderate use so I wouldn't buy the 7dayshop ones for this reason.

I suspect this bose love is something to do with you spend so much money on something you have to big it up to rationalise spending that kind of money.

having said that I have no alternatives to offer.

I think there aren't really headphones for people who want to feel like they are in a floatation tank for a few hours a day.

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Deep in-the-ear phones are not for everyone
Totally agree on that one, as I had to experiment with the different plugs a lot, and ended up trimming the last section that goes the deepest in your ear...
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I am wearing the qc35s

the ear holes are just a little too small

I don't think it excludes noise that passive noise cancelling headphones (howard leight) easily exclude.

the are not as comfy as I think the reviews seem to say, the howard leights are more comfortable.

I tried these active noise cancelling 7dayshop ones before and if they didn't hurt my ears (small ear holes) they are really quite good (sound quality is quite good and active noise cancelling is about the same as bose and passive noise cancelling is no better or worse than bose) and often at 10% of the price of bose. The quality of the bose is a bit cheap but not as cheap as the 7dayshop ones, the 7dayshop ones have a built in fault that they will break with moderate use so I wouldn't buy the 7dayshop ones for this reason.

I suspect this bose love is something to do with you spend so much money on something you have to big it up to rationalise spending that kind of money.

having said that I have no alternatives to offer.

I think there aren't really headphones for people who want to feel like they are in a floatation tank for a few hours a day.
On the scale of things they're a bargain basement purchase

Both the Focal Utopias and the Audeze LCD 4s are north of 4000 chufs, and there are loads of headphones costing in excess of 1000 chufs
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On the scale of things they're a bargain basement purchase

Both the Focal Utopias and the Audeze LCD 4s are north of 4000 chufs, and there are loads of headphones costing in excess of 1000 chufs
The bose qc35s are really growing on me.

I was thinking of kitting out the shooting muffs with ear buds but when I tried them on they didn't really shut out that much more sound than the bose qc35 and they were not as comfortable with buds in your ears so its a thumbs up for bose qc35. Thanks for all the advice to buy them. Its surprisingly reduced quite a bit of stress in my life. I think the sony was a close second because it has some interesting features and that digital noise cancelling intrigued me with the possibilities.
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Re: Headphones for introverts.. Anyone have a good suggestion?

I'm starting to love them

I took them out for a walk in the evening in the city and it was a bit of an ethereal experience, when you use them to listen to music (at least from an iPhone 7 plus) rather than the stuff playing on the iMac the sound is really nice and so much external noise is blocked out.
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On the scale of things they're a bargain basement purchase

Both the Focal Utopias and the Audeze LCD 4s are north of 4000 chufs, and there are loads of headphones costing in excess of 1000 chufs
And let's just admire this little beauty:

Sennheiser Orpheus

($55,000 - but they throw in a nice amp so it's not a bad deal...)
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