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Re: TV licence, Serafe in place of Billag

Each household will receive a 50 sfr credit thanks to the "konsumentenschutz"

https://www.konsumentenschutz.ch/kom...en-gutschrift/
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Old 16.10.2020, 15:25
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If you own one functional eye (either standalone, or accompanied by a glass eye in your skull socket) or an organ capable of receiving acoustic waves such as an ear or a cochlea implant you HAVE to pay.

Awesome description of not being legally deaf or blind, bravo sir
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Old 20.10.2020, 23:55
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I don’t use a tv radio or anything
Well you obviously do or you wouldn't be able to post this. It's pretty much the same in the UK, if you stream on any device you need a TV licence.

.... In other news, Gemeinde and SERAFE still haven't sorted this problem out. How hard can it actually be
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Re: TV licence, Serafe in place of Billag

What a farce. They should call this what it is 'a tax' at least that would be more honest. Totally irrelevant in 2020.
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Old 24.11.2020, 18:15
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Re: TV licence, Serafe in place of Billag

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What a farce. They should call this what it is 'a tax' at least that would be more honest. Totally irrelevant in 2020.
Welcome back, hows the cycling going?

What did Serafe do to hurt you? Or have I just not checked my post recently and there's another bill due?
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Re: Serafe

Hi, I'm fairly new to Switzerland and I've just been honoured with my first bill for CHF 342.50 from Serafe for the TV and radio license.

Scanning through this forum, it looks like I need to pay this, even though I only use my TV to watch Netflix. Could someone just confirm that this is correct, or is there some legal way of getting out of the payment?

Thanks in advance!
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Re: TV licence, Serafe in place of Billag

Send them back their bill with handwritten letter stating that you have TV but don't speak any local languages and thus don't see the point of paying for programming you cannot understand. It worked for me. They left me alone.
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Re: TV licence, Serafe in place of Billag

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Send them back their bill with handwritten letter stating that you have TV but don't speak any local languages and thus don't see the point of paying for programming you cannot understand. It worked for me. They left me alone.
I can't tell whether you're having a laugh, or not

It would be true though - I do not (yet) speak any of the local languages.
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Serafe bill even I am not using it.

Hi all:

I just received a bill from Serafe (for radio and television fees). I am not using it at all. Do I still need to pay for it?
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Old 30.12.2020, 09:48
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Re: Serafe bill even I am not using it.

Can’t imagine why no one has raised this before.

You have a computer/tablet/smart phone = you can watch TV = you pay Serafe for the privilege...
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Re: Serafe bill even I am not using it.

https://www.englishforum.ch/tv-inter...ce-billag.html

And...

https://www.serafe.ch/en/exemption-f...sic-principle/

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As a result of the change of system from the device-based reception fee to the device-independent household fee, all households in Switzerland are basically liable to pay the fee. Your invoice lists the names of all adult members of your private household required to pay the fee – they are jointly liable for payment of the amount invoiced.



The following households can be exempted from the obligation to pay:

- Households with persons who receive annual supplementary Old Age, Survivors' and Invalidity (OASI / AHV-IV) insurance benefits from the federal government

- Households with no means of receiving radio or television (no radio, no television, no computer, no tablet, no smartphone, no car radio, etc.)

- Households of deaf-blind people, provided that there are no people liable for the fee living in their private household

- Households of diplomats
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Re: Serafe bill even I am not using it.

If you are posting on EF then you have a device capable of internet & TV.... therefore you have to pay!
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Serafe - wifi but that's it

Hi all - I am sure this has been asked already but I couldn't find the post in the forum.

I have wifi and a smart phone, but no TV, no computers, nothing. Am I still liable to pay this mafia?

In the UK the TV licensing mob is not allowed to enter your premises unless invited to. Can Serafe force themselves into your house to check that you have wifi? Can they check with your internet service provider that you have wifi?
Bastards. Just opened the bill this evening and this made me absolutely boil with rage.

I thought Switzerland was a common sense country - I am outraged. Who still listens to the radio and the TV??? If you can't survive on your own just die already as a concept.
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Re: Serafe - wifi but that's it

Yes, it's been discussed many times, but it doesn't hurt to repeat it. Yes, if you have a phone and wifi, you HAVE to pay.

Think of other people who DO enjoy the high-quality, almost ad-free content from SFR (e.g. older folk who've been listening to it for 40 years).
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I thought Switzerland was a common sense country - I am outraged. Who still listens to the radio and the TV??? If you can't survive on your own just die already as a concept.
Indeed, Switzerland is a common sense country and back in 2018 the population was asked for their opinion. 72% voted against scraping the fee.
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Re: Serafe - wifi but that's it

Yep... get over it & move on. No one likes Serafe, but there is nothing you can do. My taxes go towards plenty of things I don’t use, like schools for example. Maybe it should be added into peoples normal tax, unnamed, then people would feel less aggrieved.
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Old 05.01.2021, 01:52
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Re: Serafe - wifi but that's it

Formula 1 in HD and a few DAB radio stations (3 Fach, Couleur3 , SRF 3, Lora) and the price is not bad.

Albeit, the greatest upside is that TV channels don't rely on infotainment or pushing vitamins on viewers to survive. We all win with that.
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I thought Switzerland was a common sense country - I am outraged. Who still listens to the radio and the TV??? If you can't survive on your own just die already as a concept.
That's a nice attitude. Plenty of people still listen to the radio, watch TV and guess what - don't have a mobile phone either; now there's a surprise for you.

If you don't want to pay it then give up your wifi/phone, job done. Oh wait. You'd probably die of loneliness if you couldn't have your phone stuck to your ear all day long.
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And street lighting. Why can‘t people eat more carrots?

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Think of other people who DO enjoy the high-quality, almost ad-free content from SFR (e.g. older folk who've been listening to it for 40 years).
Why should anyone care about that? If Serafe was a sensible price then maybe I could stomach it, but the cost is fricken outrageous and I resent having to subsidise it.
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