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13.08.2018, 15:46
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| Quote: | |  | | | I have no problem with publicly financed media, especially in a small country with 4 official languages, but the financing mechanism is outrageously archaic, akin to a medieval hearth tax.
Why can't it be finance by the federal government's general revenue like in the majority of developed countries?
All the same, I am not certain that I can hold out for 4 more months from speaking to Billag man directly if they are going to come to our house often... and I don't want to put my visa or financial situation here in any jeopardy as I quite like living here! | | | | | Blame the politicians and the Swiss!
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17.08.2018, 12:46
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The first Billag invoice I got was one of the biggest shocks to me after moving. IT's like the UK TV license on steroids  | | This user would like to thank gnorwood for this useful post: | | | This user groans at gnorwood for this post: | |
17.08.2018, 12:48
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| Quote: | | | | | The first Billag invoice I got was one of the biggest shocks to me after moving. IT's like the UK TV license on steroids | | | | | Did your first salary knock you out too?
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17.08.2018, 12:50
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| Quote: | | | | | Did your first salary knock you out too? | | | | | To be fair, it did! Took me a few months before I stopped converting everything to £ and made the mental change.
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17.08.2018, 15:32
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Received a Billag bill 
It was correct 
They do the "until end of 2018" billing now. So don't be surprised.
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17.08.2018, 16:43
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| Quote: | | | | | The first Billag invoice I got was one of the biggest shocks to me after moving. IT's like the UK TV license on steroids | | | | | Yes and 90% of that goes to pay these lazy fat cat bosses at Billag. The Swiss are entirely to blame!!!
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22.08.2018, 19:53
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hello serafe and hello Replay with compulsory advertisement. These arseholes in the advertising industry. And the arsehole politicians who do nothing!!
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23.08.2018, 14:51
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| Quote: | | | | | Yes and 90% of that goes to pay these lazy fat cat bosses at Billag. The Swiss are entirely to blame!!! | | | | | | Quote: | | | | | hello serafe and hello Replay with compulsory advertisement. These arseholes in the advertising industry. And the arsehole politicians who do nothing!! | | | | | Lord help the geriatric nurses who work in the retirement home you end up in one day.
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23.08.2018, 14:54
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| Quote: | | | | | Lord help the geriatric nurses who work in the retirement home you end up in one day. | | | | |
He'll take exit and bitch about the price and the slowness until the last second.
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04.09.2018, 07:30
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OK - I thought I would weigh in here as a Kiwi and say that for some stupid reason the NZ Government abolished the 'Broadcasting Fee' about 20 years ago.
Did we loose local content? - Nope Did the Ads per hour on Public TV Increase? - Yup, but not any more than the Average in the rest of the world.
However, this was a paltry NZ$ 165.00 per year ( which I never paid ) because I never owned a TV ( used a VCR and a Computer Monitor )
I believe that the NZ Government scrapped the Fee as it was costing them more to chase the non-payers than the revenue it collected 
You want to angry? Try to get the length of a TV Hour back up over 40 minutes .....
I do remember the good old days of TV when a 60 min slot had 55 minutes of actual TV program and not the 39 minutes we seem to have today.
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04.09.2018, 07:34
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| Quote: | | | | | OK - I thought I would weigh in here as a Kiwi and say that for some stupid reason the NZ Government abolished the 'Broadcasting Fee' about 20 years ago.
Did we loose local content? - Nope Did the Ads per hour on Public TV Increase? - Yup, but not any more than the Average in the rest of the world.
However, this was a paltry NZ$ 165.00 per year ( which I never paid ) because I never owned a TV ( used a VCR and a Computer Monitor )
I believe that the NZ Government scrapped the Fee as it was costing them more to chase the non-payers than the revenue it collected
You want to angry? Try to get the length of a TV Hour back up over 40 minutes .....
I do remember the good old days of TV when a 60 min slot had 55 minutes of actual TV program and not the 39 minutes we seem to have today. | | | | | And now they want to abolish replay TV in CH with the ability to skip the ads!! Time to drop the TV over the balcony. Fortunately I only use it for SF1 and 2 and Info,CNN and Film 4 and a few other docu senders. Everything else is just shit!
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04.10.2018, 15:34
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Only read the first and last pages of this thread, so maybe this has been posted already: https://www.bakom.admin.ch/bakom/en/...ml#-1468260379
If yes, post can be deleted.
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04.10.2018, 16:34
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Well if I've got to pay anyway then I may as well stop watching DVDs on a monitor and get something bigger.
Having never owned a TV in my life, what's currently in vogue?  |
04.10.2018, 16:45
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I wonder how they will define "no equipment suitable for the reception of radio or television programme services is present or is operated in the private household. "
I imagine any household with a mobile phone, a computer, tablet, a car or otherwise will not be able to opt-out. There can't be many of those households!
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04.10.2018, 17:00
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But why is it now going to cost me 80 chuffs a year more for the same product?
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04.10.2018, 17:11
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| Quote: | | | | | I wonder how they will define "no equipment suitable for the reception of radio or television programme services is present or is operated in the private household. "
I imagine any household with a mobile phone, a computer, tablet, a car or otherwise will not be able to opt-out. There can't be many of those households! | | | | | Or maybe if my boss wants me to take the laptop home to finish stuff off, I can demand he pay my Serafe fees?
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04.10.2018, 17:15
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| Quote: | | | | | Well if I've got to pay anyway then I may as well stop watching DVDs on a monitor and get something bigger.
Having never owned a TV in my life, what's currently in vogue? | | | | |
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04.10.2018, 17:32
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Bye bye Billag, hello the replacement Serafe mafia!
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24.10.2018, 19:15
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| Quote: | | | | | But why is it now going to cost me 80 chuffs a year more for the same product? | | | | | No idea, but looks like we won't be paying anything.
"Who is also exempt from the fee?
Households with people who receive old-age pension or disability insurance benefits." https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/serafe_...-fee-/44490210 |
24.10.2018, 20:57
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| Quote: | | | | | | | | | | So every retired person on a pension does not have to pay. Can't be true!
And its not true!! Its for people who get the extra pension payments ( Ergänzungleistung ) when their pension is not enough. Such stupid false statements.
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