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Old 27.09.2008, 18:33
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Re: Internet issues / choices in Switzerland / ADSL vs cable

all over the newspapers this week has been Sunrise info about how the last mile has fallen and there is no need to pay 25 francs to Swisscom.

Read the Sunrise internet page...might help?
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all over the newspapers this week has been Sunrise info about how the last mile has fallen and there is no need to pay 25 francs to Swisscom.

Read the Sunrise internet page...might help?

Translated uber roughly from google for the lazy like me:


Information about the last mile

What is the last mile? What are the advantages of unbundling for Sunrise customers?

The Last Mile falls

In recent months we have our technical equipment in 60 local local telephone installed (unbundling). The residents in these areas Sunrise customers are no longer limited to an access line from Swisscom instructed to fixed telephony and Internet services.

Advantage of unbundling

Customers in unbundled areas will benefit from Sunrise click & call 5000 + and Sunrise click & call 15000 +. These two offerings are separate products from Sunrise and priced more attractive than the Sunrise click & call tenders for which Sunrise acts as a re-seller.
What effect has the unbundling on clients with Sunrise click & call?

Once an area is unbundled, we inform existing customers about the newly available Sunrise click & call + offers.

In individual cases, after review, unfortunately, no result (eg cable infrastructure or ISDN connections). If you do not get results, please contact our customer service via free number 0800 707 707.

Information Service

Register for the information service and we contact you when your home is unbundled.
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Re: Internet issues / choices in Switzerland / ADSL vs cable

How long does it really take? I got Cablecom today, and they announced that it would take 4 weeks to get delivered. Does that jibe with other people's experiences?
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Re: Internet issues / choices in Switzerland / ADSL vs cable

Hello People
I really need an internet connection at home. But I have several difficulties. I do not have a fixed telephone , so if I want to get ADSL from SwissCom or Orange ... I'll need to pay for a telephone plus internet, which is not really what I want. Cuz I do not use wired telephone at all.
I checked availablilty of Cablecom in my apartment, and it was not available.
Nor I do not want to make a mobile contract with those operators again to get internet.

All suggestions, ideas are welcome, indeed required.
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Re: Internet issues / choices in Switzerland / ADSL vs cable

According to Sunrise the last mile has fallen. So worth checking them out.

http://www.sunrise.ch/en/index.htm?
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Hello People
I really need an internet connection at home. But I have several difficulties. I do not have a fixed telephone , so if I want to get ADSL from SwissCom or Orange ... I'll need to pay for a telephone plus internet, which is not really what I want. Cuz I do not use wired telephone at all.
I checked availablilty of Cablecom in my apartment, and it was not available.
Nor I do not want to make a mobile contract with those operators again to get internet.
All suggestions, ideas are welcome, indeed required.
Thanks
Put a big sign on your windows that says "I am ready to pay for half of your internet bill". Hope some neighbour gets it and gives you the password... I was tempted to do that at my new place...
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Re: Internet issues / choices in Switzerland / ADSL vs cable

Just a quick vent about Swisscom's uselessness so far:

On September 9th I walked into a Swisscom shop and tried to buy Infinity broadband and an iPhone. Sadly they would not give me the discount for buying both services from them, but this is a minor grumble. I wanted a 16gb iPhone and that was out of stock, but they took my details and said they would let me know.

A few days later they activated the phone line. They were meant to contact me to try and make an appointment to install broadband (I wasn't sure if I really needed them to do this, but I thought it would be easier and more certain) but I heard nothing. I eventually called their customer service number. It turns out they had tried calling me three times and then given up. What number were they using? The newly activated phone line. I explained that there was no phone on that line yet and I had asked them to email me to make the appointment (they would not accept my UK mobile as a contact number). They explained that email was not acceptable for contact and the shop should not have said that it was. An installation date was set for October 3rd at any time from 10:00-18:00. They said they would call me and meet me 30 minutes later at my flat.

A couple of days before the installation my iPhone had still not arrived, so I bought a pay as you go SIM and called Swisscom to give them the number.

On October 3rd I waited all day for them to call the number. Half way through the day I called them to make sure someone was going to turn up. Nope. Nada. No phone call. A few days later I had a card from them saying they had tried to call . . . simply not true.

I called up Swisscom on the Monday to try and find out what happened and make a new appointment. They took my number (again) and said they would call back.

By today, I'd received no callback, so I tried calling them up again. After waiting ten minutes in a queue I then get cut off. I call up again and lo and behold, in the middle of the conversation (on my work phone) who should call my mobile . . . Swisscom.

And I still don't have an iPhone. This is despite my colleagues walking in having bought them from Swisscom shops. I've now abandoned them and ordered one with Orange.
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Old 16.10.2008, 17:23
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Re: Internet issues / choices in Switzerland / ADSL vs cable

Swisscom finally showed up yesterday. Sadly they failed to complete the broadband installation though. The engineer said there was likely a problem at their network centre and he'd have to ask someone to check it and then they'd get back to me, either that afternoon or the next day.

Of course, they didn't contact me . . . so I called them instead. They were unable to give me a status on the problem and the best they could do was try to lead me through some rudimentary troubleshooting or offer to send someone else out. They were unable to tell me how this might fix the basic lack of DSL signal. It's a farrago and I'm getting fed up of it.
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Re: Internet issues / choices in Switzerland / ADSL vs cable

Are there any 20meg broadband packages available in Switzerland?
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Old 09.02.2009, 13:21
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Surely there are many available... here is one.
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Re: Internet issues / choices in Switzerland / ADSL vs cable

Sorry, cablecom is not worth what I am paying anymore.
In the evening I get ping 200ms, 5% to 10% packet losses and bandwidth as low as 600 kbit/s when you are lucky. Saturdays and Sundays is an hell with all these packet losses, browser returning connection resets and so on and so forth.

For me money doesn't matter, I want QUALITY, not QUANTITY like 20 Mbit/s which turns into 10 kbit/s, yes 10 kbit/s , not joking becouse when you lose packets, TCP speed slows down and you get stuck all the time.

So I wonder if there is any internet connection technology with quality of service (QOS), better if with minimum guaranteed bandwidth.

Could I have the digital phone with cablecom and internet with swisscom at the same time??!?! is it possible?!?!

Is there any good QOS provider out there??!!? it's a shame in 2009, 10 kbit/s in the evening... shame on Switzerland !

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Re: Internet issues / choices in Switzerland / ADSL vs cable

Anyone heard of Stadtantennen AG? I need a cable company to hook me up in Baar. I think they are linked to Cablecom or something.

Also, I have the 3 plug socket in the walls, what are they? Phone, Internet &Tv?
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Re: Internet issues / choices in Switzerland / ADSL vs cable

They might be Cable sockets:

Cable connection

Switzerland has had cable television for nearly 50 years. It comes into the room via the TV socket and continues to offer a truly comprehensive range of analogue TV and radio programmes. The basic connection provides all cable TV sockets with access to television and radio programmes. All you have to do is connect the existing television sets and radios to the socket.



With it you can also have digital television, fast Internet access and a telephone service.

Taken from Cablecom's site.

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Anyone heard of Stadtantennen AG? I need a cable company to hook me up in Baar. I think they are linked to Cablecom or something.

Also, I have the 3 plug socket in the walls, what are they? Phone, Internet &Tv?
You just ring them and subscribe to the service. You don't need a cable company to do any physical hookup in your apartment.

When you receive the cable modem, you just plug it in.

The 3-plug socket is
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Sorry, cablecom is not worth what I am paying anymore.
In the evening I get ping 200ms, 5% to 10% packet losses and bandwidth as low as 600 kbit/s when you are lucky. Saturdays and Sundays is an hell with all these packet losses, browser returning connection resets and so on and so forth.

For me money doesn't matter, I want QUALITY, not QUANTITY like 20 Mbit/s which turns into 10 kbit/s, yes 10 kbit/s , not joking becouse when you lose packets, TCP speed slows down and you get stuck all the time.

So I wonder if there is any internet connection technology with quality of service (QOS), better if with minimum guaranteed bandwidth.

Could I have the digital phone with cablecom and internet with swisscom at the same time??!?! is it possible?!?!

Is there any good QOS provider out there??!!? it's a shame in 2009, 10 kbit/s in the evening... shame on Switzerland !

Before having a go at Switzerland, have you tried comparing ping times within Switzerland with those to other countries?

The evenings are always slower than other times as then, the whole of the U.S is on line.
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Old 15.03.2009, 15:01
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Before having a go at Switzerland, have you tried comparing ping times within Switzerland with those to other countries?

The evenings are always slower than other times as then, the whole of the U.S is on line.
I've noticed that too. If I want to do some really big download, 5 in the morning is a good time to do it.

Another thing I noticed as Cablecom increased speeds was that the faster my connection got, the more sites I found around the world that couldn't deliver data at those speeds.
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They might be Cable sockets:

Cable connection

Switzerland has had cable television for nearly 50 years. It comes into the room via the TV socket and continues to offer a truly comprehensive range of analogue TV and radio programmes. The basic connection provides all cable TV sockets with access to television and radio programmes. All you have to do is connect the existing television sets and radios to the socket.



With it you can also have digital television, fast Internet access and a telephone service.

Taken from Cablecom's site.

Stadtantennen AG ? Never heard of them or know of anyone using them.
Thanks, the Statantennen is the company that covers Baar for cable apparently.
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Old 15.03.2009, 20:25
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I've got a mobile unlimited usb thingy from Swisscom. I got a great student offer and took it. (http://www.swisscom-mobile.ch/scm/st...ngebot-en.aspx). I move around alot, being a student of a university and in my schooling i also work as a management trainee in the tourism sector. Therefore I do not stay for more than 6 months at one location at a time. This means that adsl and cable gets too expensive with all the transferring and reinstallations at my new locations.

I get 5 GB per month to download and so far, the speed is about 50kB/s. Not beating adsl, but giving it a run for its money if you're not downloading huge files. I pay 39CHF per month and on an average month, i use aprox 3.5GB for just surfing on the web 2-3 hours daily, chatting and emailing. Good point is also that this works EVERYWHERE there is a Swisscom cell phone signal. I've used it on the trains and even on the motorways. (not while driving of course, but my passengers have used it).

However, my two flatmates also got this mobile "unlimited" and they were not paying attention to what they were doing on the net. They were streaming Norwegian tv channels all the time for instance. Therefore, in their first month, they downloaded in total aprox. 12GB, 7GB over the limit. This resulted in their first bill not amounting to 39CHF, but a mindboggling 750CHF(!!!!!)

They were naive non-computer-knowing girls and did not check the volume statistic on the connection software. They learned their lesson there. Especially since the salary for a hotel trainee in Switzerland is 2045CHF. Amounts to about 1200CHF after taxes and such.

To conclude, this mobile "unlimited" from Swisscom is brilliant if you are travelling alot or moving around alot. It gives you a good enough speed when you download files and you can use it everywhere there is a cell phone signal. In addition, you can use the swisscom wireless at hotels, restaurants, train stations and airports.

Nevertheless... The system has a flaw in it. There should be a warning when you exceed 0.5GB, 1.0GB, 1.5GB and so on, built into the software; because exceeding the limit will cost you a very dear 10 cts per mb. That's 100CHF per extra GB!!

If you need 10GB per month, just get two sim cards with the 5GB option.

Note: There are of course conditions (its a phone company after all... ) You pay a 40CHF one time fee for the sim card and 1chf for the usb modem if you go for a 24 month contract. If you go for a 12 month contract, you pay 40CHF for the sim card and 129CHF for the modem. The modem can be used worldwide though, so plug your regular sim card in and it works. It supports GPRS, EDGE, UMTS and HSDPA

the unlimited thing looks good. if you take the sim card and put it in a normal mobile phone, are you able to make calls on it? what are the call costs?
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Here is an updated page about Swisscom's USB CHF1/- plan.
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Old 15.03.2009, 21:42
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Here is an updated page about Swisscom's USB CHF1/- plan.

i'm thinking of getting this as an alternative to DSL (since i'm in temporary flat for 3 months and it will be a hassle getting DSL).

i was wondering for those who have this, do they do anything funny with the connection?

i have a similar UK t-mobile wireless and they transparently proxy everything and images are degraded in quality and outbound SMTP is blocked (except to t-mobiles own mailserver).

i run my own DNS, mail and web servers in the UK and would want a clean connection (no weird proxying) and SSH access.
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