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Old 15.03.2009, 21:12
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Re: Internet issues / choices in Switzerland / ADSL vs cable

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i'm thinking of getting this as an alternative to DSL (since i'm in temporary flat for 3 months and it will be a hassle getting DSL).

i was wondering for those who have this, do they do anything funny with the connection?
Funny as in improper ? I don't think so. I was impressed with the speeds.

I also had the opportunity to fix one up with someone's Acer Netbook. Video streaming was better than expected.

Sunrise also offers a USB stick version for CHF1/- or CHF99 depending on the plan.
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Hello everyone,

since I'll be moving to Lausanne, I have to arrange everything there... and first of all *addict* my internet connection!
I initially spoke with Cablecom, since it's the connection we've had here in Zurich, and they advised me to contact the Services Industrielles of Lausanne to register.

So now here's a dilemma: shall I move on a planned and order Cablecom internet, or should I try the city's own Citycable?? Anyone know it?

I dont want TV or anything else.. Just internet, water, electricity and a roof!

Thanx!!
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Old 22.03.2009, 20:56
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Re: Internet issues / choices in Switzerland / ADSL vs cable

Ok, editing:

Well, I don't know anymore if Cablecom is an option, I checked if I can get their services where I live and here is what I got:
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Unfortunately, hispeed internet and digital phone are not available at your specified location yet. However, you can register online for digital tv and cablecom mobile, and in just a few days you will be able to enjoy these services.

If you require competent advice, please contact our partner: ""Services Industriels de Lausanne"" ""http://www.lausanne.ch"" ""021 315 86 71"" ""info@lausanne.ch"".

If you would like to register for the digital tv subscription with mediabox recorder or HD mediabox receiver, please click on «Register». If, however, you are interested in the mediabox receiver (without recorder function) and you require competent advice, please contact our partner ""Services Industriels de Lausanne"
So I guess my only option is Citycable?
I have no idea how internet works, so I don't know if I should search in Orange or Swisscom...

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Old 22.03.2009, 21:32
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Re: Internet issues / choices in Switzerland / ADSL vs cable

Please check your PM.

1) Cable ( most likely only CityCable )

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2) DSL ( requires a telephone line RJ11 socket on wall in your new place ). Alternative is Naked DSL

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3) GSM on USB stick - Swisscom or Sunrise - both discussed in this forum already.
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Old 26.03.2009, 16:36
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the unlimited thing looks good. if you take the sim card and put it in a normal mobile phone, are you able to make calls on it? what are the call costs?
I asked Sunrise this question and they said no and the function is disabled. A shame. I had a similar thing with t-mobile in the UK which also could make and receive calls.
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I just applied for cablecom and hope to get it soon as I need it for the working from home days. I took the 10000 hispeed option.

Thanks for all the info on the site
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Re: Internet issues / choices in Switzerland / ADSL vs cable

Thanks for the information in the thread - very useful.
I will be getting the mobile internet option when I arrive.
There seems to be 3 providers: Swisscom / Orange / Sunrise.

I believe Orange have the "cheapest" 1 year contract option @ CHF 24.50 for the first 6 months (special offer) and 49 for the last 6 months.
The speed is 3600 kbit/s, I think lower than the others.
Also the download limit is 5GB for Orange v 10GB for the others.
Sunrise is CHF 49 per month, Swisscom CHF59 per month (faster)


My question: has anyone got the Orange mobile internet and if so have they any issues with it or recommend it?

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Re: Internet issues / choices in Switzerland / ADSL vs cable

I use Orange have done for a couple years, no issues. Sometimes the access strength is not enough to get on line, but to be honest that has happened to me so rarely. More frequently, my main internet is down, and I can take my EEE out and be online with Orange.

On the other hand, a friend in Geneva has Orange, and the access from their flat is terrible. Frequently unable to get on the net. So the moral there is access signal strength in the places you are.

Others may have other experiences, I am more than happy with the service.
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Thanks for the info SPB. (I dont have enough posts to use the thanks button yet!)

I think I will go for Orange Mobile Internet. Also for anyone else considering it have a read of this thread and this thread (slightly out of date wrt download limits)
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Re: Internet issues / choices in Switzerland / ADSL vs cable

I was looking at a few apartments online and I noticed some that offered 100MB internet.

If I were to rent somewhere that id not necessarily provided it with the rent, which company would offer these speeds and for how much.

I tried looking at Swisscom, Cable, etc. but didn't seem to find the info I am looking for.
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Old 19.08.2009, 23:43
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I was looking at a few apartments online and I noticed some that offered 100MB internet.

If I were to rent somewhere that id not necessarily provided it with the rent, which company would offer these speeds and for how much.

I tried looking at Swisscom, Cable, etc. but didn't seem to find the info I am looking for.
Cablecom have stated that 100MBps internet will be available maybe before end of this year (I read it in the press)

Some places that offer fibre to the home have 100Mbps - EW Zürich does I believe - but not many houses connected yet

It is hugely variable depending on your address.
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Re: Internet issues / choices in Switzerland / ADSL vs cable

Thank you, Friendlykiwi! I currently have fiber, and it is the best Internet experience I have ever had. So the possibility of getting it in Switzerland is great.

Which company offers Fiber? And do you know if they have a tool to see if a certain address has it? (It exists here, so I would guess/hope that is the case there too.)

Thanks again!
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Thank you, Friendlykiwi! I currently have fiber, and it is the best Internet experience I have ever had. So the possibility of getting it in Switzerland is great.

Which company offers Fiber? And do you know if they have a tool to see if a certain address has it? (It exists here, so I would guess/hope that is the case there too.)

Thanks again!
You're moving to Zürich, so you'll have the following choices as a consumer:

Swisscom: VDSL (max 20 down, 5 up)
Swisscom: ADSL (max 6 down, 0.6 up)

Cablecom: cable TV internet (max 25 down, 2.5 up). They're expanding to DOCSIS 3 standard and will be able to offer 100M down once it's done. I recall it being around the end of 2009 from the press articles.

Sunrise: ADSL2+ (max 15 down, 1 up)

EWZ.zurinet (power company) fibre - (max speed was promised to be 100M,not sure if just down or in doth directions) EWZ say they have 5000 customers already connected. Their website tells you who to contact for services: http://www.stadt-zuerich.ch/content/..._14_04_09.html

Generally, every apartment in the city of Zurich will be able to choose between providers that are available on the existing household cable TV and copper lines. That means Sunrise, cablecom, Swisscom, and all those other companies that resell Swisscom (there are lots!).

You won't be able to get any more precise information until you know what address you'll have. Not all addresses have all services.

If money is no object, you can have up to 1Gbps guaranteed fiber bandwidth to your home. But be prepared to pay :-)
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1Gbps, wow! How much would that be?

Thanks for all the great info!
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1Gbps, wow! How much would that be?
I have no idea how much it would cost but as an early adopter of ADSL circa 2001 I wouldn't be surprised if it was restricted to business lines only (CHF 250 per month in my case back then, with a fixed IP address, payable a year up front. I got superb service though, totally unlike some of the stories I've heard here for consumer grade connections).

And I'd need a serious upgrade to my home kit to take advantage of it.

I dread to think of the total cost
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1Gbps, wow! How much would that be?
Depends how many tens of thousands you contribute to the build cost of getting the fibre to your house... and how many metres of kilometres have to be built.... and where...

Actually, a modern house PC simply cannot handle a 1Gbps connection

Lots of PCs cannot even handle a continuous 100Mbps internet connection - the bottleneck becomes the wireless card, or the PC hardware, or the processor, or the operating system...
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Actually, a modern house PC simply cannot handle a 1Gbps connection

Lots of PCs cannot even handle a continuous 100Mbps internet connection - the bottleneck becomes the wireless card, or the PC hardware, or the processor, or the operating system...
Not thinking of a "typical home PC" here, but experience tells me that the first thing you notice is how slow sites at the other end of your connection are. It's no good having the latest fastest download speed if nobody is serving data up at that rate - well, unless you are sharing with other users such as in an office environment of course.

Having done it myself, for the home my advice is to wait until you get those speeds at consumer prices.
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Re: Internet issues / choices in Switzerland / ADSL vs cable

Fiber Power from Cablecom.

Fiber Power internet 100 (100 000 Kbit/s download/7000 Kbit/s upload for CHF 95),
Fiber Power internet 50 (50 000 Kbit/s download/5000 Kbit/s upload for CHF 85) and
Fiber Power internet 10+ (10 000 Kbit/s download/5000 Kbit/s upload for CHF 59).

"available immediately in the Zurich, Bern and Winterthur areas and will be extended across Switzerland by the end of 2010"

I would - if I could
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You're moving to Zürich, so you'll have the following choices as a consumer:
Thanks FriendlyKiwi for this nice info. I have couple of questions. I have moved into a new apartment and all the service providers (cable, ADSL) are present there. I'd be satisfied with a 10 Mbps connection. So given a choice which one has consistent speed and better service? And I don't need a fixed line phone. Also, is there a minimum time commitment in months/years that one needs to adher to, to get a connection?

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Thanks FriendlyKiwi for this nice info. I have couple of questions. I have moved into a new apartment and all the service providers (cable, ADSL) are present there. I'd be satisfied with a 10 Mbps connection. So given a choice which one has consistent speed and better service? And I don't need a fixed line phone. Also, is there a minimum time commitment in months/years that one needs to adher to, to get a connection?

Thanks!
ADSL: only up to maybe 6Mbps, doesn't meet your criteria
VDSL: you'd need to check availability of service, very dependent on copper cable length. Speeds up to 20M possible if you have good and short copper.

For ADSL and VDSL check your address here:
http://www.swisscom.ch/ws/products/B...?languageId=en
This address checker will apply to any provider that resells Swisscom services eg Green, so it is a good indication of all providers capabilities.
Some providers like Sunrise have their own DSL infrastructure.
Here's the Sunrise address checker:
https://www.sunrise.ch/privatkunden/...ss-pruefen.htm (based on phone numbers)

The Cablecom service meets your criteria on their cable TV network, which you will have
Cablecom now offers speeds of up to 100Mbps in Zürich !! available since 1 Sept 209.
Check availability of services at your address here:
http://www.cablecom.ch/en/index.htm?setlang=4
(bottom of page is the address checker)

Naked DSL means you don't need a phone number or phone service - not every provider provides a Naked DSL service, you'd have to ask.
Most providers ask for a 1 year contract or some form of commitment.
Some providers ask for financial guaranties from non-Swiss, especially if you are new to the country.
All providers provide a pretty good service
Cablecom may likely be the cheapest and works well (this is what I have)
Ignore all the negative comments about customer service with cablecom, these comments are all pretty outdated. They provide pretty good customer service as long as you don't confuse them with unusual and oddball requests
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