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Anyone got a Cablecom connection on a L Permit?

I am planning to get Cablecom Connection.
If I have a L Permit, will I get it?

The Cablecom call center guy didn't know about it.

Swisscom refused it, saying they need a B Permit.
If neither accepts, here's an alternative (Prepaid DSL):
http://dsl.monzoon.net/downloads/Lei...oon_DSL_en.pdf
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Question is: how can you know if your apartment has a Cablecom connection? My contract includes "all charges" but the person which is letting the room doesn't seem to know anything about internet.
Easy-peasy - if you've got Cablecom, you'll probably have a faceplate somewhere about that looks very much like this, with three circular sockets (TV, radio, internet)...

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(Niot that an "old" Cablecom faceplate might only have two sockets, not the three)

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Re: Internet issues / choices in Switzerland / ADSL vs cable

Gutted cablecom is not available in my area.

What do people do when it's not available, slow, expensive Swisscom?

Any alternatives?
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Hi Badgerman

We've got figlass cable here in Lucerne as an option and I've got the pluz+ triple maxi option, i.e. phone (free into Swiss terrestrial networks), more than 130 TV channels, also digital, 25 digital radio channels, TV recording/pause functions, web TV2go.

Have a chat to the guy in the sat. shop in Baar for other sat stuff.

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PS we've got Sky, too, but only cos the wife won't miss Corrie. Can't beat the soccer on Sky Sports 1 plus, plus, either.
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Re: Internet issues / choices in Switzerland / ADSL vs cable

Thanks mate.

How do you find out what is available at your address?

Cheers
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Call up your Verwaltung if you're in rented accommodation - they'll tell you what TV supplier comes out of the wall. Or look in your original rental agreement as the (usually) monthly charge should be listed separately.

Go to a local sat shop and bend their ears. Talk about the next thing below:

http://www.satcure.co.uk/tech/freeview.htm

They will have had lots of Brits asking the same questions.

I don't know much about the nuts and bolts of this myself as I get what I want (all the Beebs, all the ITVs) through Sky (pricey, tho) as well as through my figlass town cable.

Don't forget to make sure that you have a free sightline to the satellite location. If you are in accommodation with the only view to the north, you're dead in the water.

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Re: Internet issues / choices in Switzerland / ADSL vs cable

I got a nice Swisscom VDSL link here, started out as 15/1, but gradually hopped to 20/2 and now 25/3, which is a good thing for the work I do

There are various ISPs, especially the electricity-related ones, rolling out true fibre-to-the-home though, thus once that arrive I might finally ditch Swisscom so that I do not have to pay the phone line which I rarely use.
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Re: Internet issues / choices in Switzerland / ADSL vs cable

If you have a Swisscom Mobile, you can ditch the land line with DSL & Natel pro from Swisscom. Not only do you save the land line costs but the DSL costs ca. 10chf less because you no longer have the 'free' swiss fixed line calls.
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If you have a Swisscom Mobile, you can ditch the land line with DSL & Natel pro from Swisscom. Not only do you save the land line costs but the DSL costs ca. 10chf less because you no longer have the 'free' swiss fixed line calls.
While that is correct, the problem with that though is that you cannot get the 'infinity' version (which gives one 25/3). They only recently made that available up to 20/2. Those few more bits/s are important when moving a lot of data for work to the home and then those 25chf do not matter, that is only three beers less per month [oh and in case one needs to dial a swiss phone number for a later night conference call, that two hours on the phone is free too, thus it does work out sometimes ]
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Call up your Verwaltung if you're in rented accommodation - they'll tell you what TV supplier comes out of the wall. Or look in your original rental agreement as the (usually) monthly charge should be listed separately.

Go to a local sat shop and bend their ears. Talk about the next thing below:

http://www.satcure.co.uk/tech/freeview.htm

They will have had lots of Brits asking the same questions.

I don't know much about the nuts and bolts of this myself as I get what I want (all the Beebs, all the ITVs) through Sky (pricey, tho) as well as through my figlass town cable.

Edit: but this is all discussed in a different thread.

Don't forget to make sure that you have a free sightline to the satellite location. If you are in accommodation with the only view to the north, you're dead in the water.

Cheers
You do NOT need Sky to get the BBC's ITV's etc... If you can put a satellite up facing the right way, then you can either use a satellite box bought from here, or a FreeSat box from the uk. The advantage of the FreeSat box from the UK is that you have a nice EPG with it. The disadvantage is the limited channels (without going into the hidden menu....) I have FreeSat and non freesat HD boxes.

http://www.freesat.co.uk/

Once you have bought the equipment there are NO additional charges.

Edit: but this is all discussed in another thread...
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Re: Internet issues / choices in Switzerland / ADSL vs cable

Im still waiting for" horizon" from Cablecom
http://www.20min.ch/digital/hardware/story/19461523
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Re: Internet issues / choices in Switzerland / ADSL vs cable

Moving into a house in Blonay as of June 1 and trying to decide best option for Internet - I belive that Cablecom is the way to go based on the comments from the Thread.
Anyone have any feedback on the Fibre and the actual d/load u/load speeds - I know there are many variables but my experience from North America is you never get the full output so is the difference in Basic Fibre 10 @ 39 Fr compared to Fibre 100 @ 75 Fr is it worth the money.
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Moving into a house in Blonay as of June 1 and trying to decide best option for Internet - I belive that Cablecom is the way to go based on the comments from the Thread.
Anyone have any feedback on the Fibre and the actual d/load u/load speeds - I know there are many variables but my experience from North America is you never get the full output so is the difference in Basic Fibre 10 @ 39 Fr compared to Fibre 100 @ 75 Fr is it worth the money.
I switched to Cablecom recently, Fiber Power Internet 50 (50 Mbps download, 5 upload), and I get the promised speed, or even more sometimes.

Running speed tests I usually get around 45-52 Mbps download, and around 6 upload.

However that is only if my laptop is connected with Ethernet cable, by WIFI (I bought a TP Link 802.11n 300Mbps router, quite cheap) I get around 20-30 Mbps download. It changes a lot, depending on how many devices are connect to the WIFI.
And sometimes it reconfigures itself to use 802.11g instead of 802.11n, because one of the devices uses this standard and the speed is degraded for the rest
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I was with Cablecom but changed to Swisscom because of the quality Cablecom's hardware ( for HDTV ). It's really about the worst hardware you could ever find-cheap and never worked properly. Swisscom hardware is 100 % better.

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Re: Internet issues / choices in Switzerland / ADSL vs cable

Hello everyone,

I am looking for help here-)

I moved to a new flat in seebach recently and need to apply for internet at home. I read through some posts, seems swisscom and upc cablecom will be my choice.
I will need to check emails and use Skype, so what do you think I should use?
For the price below 40CHF/month is good.

Thanks for help!
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Re: Internet issues / choices in Switzerland / ADSL vs cable

Hello,

sorry this seem to have been discussed many times but i still dont get it:

im moving to thalwil:
cablecom seems attractive but im not sure of those additional 25chf for the fixed line:
I dont need telephone and previous occupants of the flat had cablecom: Do I need to pay those 25chf ? (ive read that if the flat is already "cablecom ready" then I do not need to pay this, but then if this is true, I dont get why this is a monthly fee and not just an installation fee )

I dont really want to pay 25chf.
I really dont need telephone, internet alone is enough

Im below 26 so if I get it right I can get internet+mobile at roughly 100chf / month (65 the first year) which does not seem to me as a great bargain
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Hello,

sorry this seem to have been discussed many times but i still dont get it:

im moving to thalwil:
cablecom seems attractive but im not sure of those additional 25chf for the fixed line:
I dont need telephone and previous occupants of the flat had cablecom: Do I need to pay those 25chf ? (ive read that if the flat is already "cablecom ready" then I do not need to pay this, but then if this is true, I dont get why this is a monthly fee and not just an installation fee )

I dont really want to pay 25chf.
I really dont need telephone, internet alone is enough

Im below 26 so if I get it right I can get internet+mobile at roughly 100chf / month (65 the first year) which does not seem to me as a great bargain
You have to pay the base rate for supplying cable to your flat. The only way to avoid it is to have the sockets officially closed with a lead seal. Obviously you need to cable socket of internet - and maybe CC digital phone.

However, it is quite likely that you are already paying this in your flat rental - check your contract...
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Just wondering why Bluewin cannot do more than 20,000/2000. Is it because of the lines? Are they waiting for glass fibre lines?
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Re: Internet issues / choices in Switzerland / ADSL vs cable

Hi,

We have internet through city cable which has a faster broadband speed and is less money than swisscom. It has been very reliable and was quick to be installed. We have just moved and it was really easy to swap it to our new address, it was just a matter of a 5 minute chat in the city cable shop.

Hope this helps!
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Re: Internet issues / choices in Switzerland / ADSL vs cable

We will move house at the end of September, and so we start with phone/TV/internet fun.

The house we bought has a large black cable in the cellar, which then provides all four houses in our group with Cablecom TV. The cable enters our house and connects all four houses in a daisy-chain fashion. As it was done in the 1980's. So, great, we have Cablecom access.

We phone up Cablecom and enquire about moving house. "You don't have cablecom and must pay 2000CHF for a new connection" was the first reply. After calling them again, stating that I am in the cellar looking at their cable, they admit we might have a connection. Third call to them confirms that we do have cablecom. Great!

So, we install cablecom sockets throughout the house (DD11 sockets in most rooms) in preparation.

Last week a rather blunt letter arrives. "Good morning, you have no cablecom connection at your new address. From September, all your contracts are cancelled, your homepage, EMail and anything else you had will be deleted. Please also return all your equipment. Thank you for your custom and goodbye."

WTF? There was no 'this is how we can help' or 'these are your options'. Just 'goodbye'!

I will reply, stating that if the house has no cablecom connection, then I will cut off and remove the large black cable that is trespassing in my cellar, as it obviously isn't Cablecom's cable.. And I have wasted a few hundred francs installing the bloody sockets in the house (useless if we go with ADSL..)

(actually, if we fall out with the neighbours, I can actually control/disconnect/infect their Cablecom connection )

Other choices are - Swisscom or Sunrise. Comments ?

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