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Re: Windows Update

Well the creators update had the size of my SSD down to 22 GB from 52 GB-crazy!!!They should call it destructors update. I got the GB back after a big system cleanup. With 14 GB free space then you can forget it!
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I have a dirt-cheap RCA Cambio tablet with only 32 GB on its SSD. Unfortunately, it came with Windoze 10, which I hate only slightly less than Windoze 8. I use that modest little thing as the command center for all my navigational electronics aboard my boat, i.e. radar, echo sounder, differential GPS, AIS etc., because it is much easier and faster to control that stuff over the touch screen than by pressing a zillion buttons. And the resolution of the screen is much better too.

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This picture, shot during the installation, shows the lower helm station in the deck salon
(there's a second, very similar station on the flybridge on top of the deck salon). The devices
under the coach roof ("ceiling" for ya landlubbers) are (from left to right): Echo sounder com-
bined with GPS display, differential GPS control unit with a bow anchor video monitor below, and
radar display. All those units communicate with the tablet computer and the autopilot. The tablet
computer is at the bottom in front of the steering wheel. Meanwhile it also got an anti-glare dis-
play filter, which improves readability tremendously. I hate those mirror displays just as much
as Win10.


I was a bit afraid of doing that Mother of All Updates with only 14 GB of free space on the SSD. However, as I checked today, the system said everything is up to date, and the Windows Update history doesn't show the slightest trace of any Fall Creator Update.

Looks like Windows Update simply skipped that stuff because there's not enough space. Or was I just lucky?
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Well the creators update had the size of my SSD down to 22 GB from 52 GB-crazy!!!They should call it destructors update. I got the GB back after a big system cleanup. With 14 GB free space then you can forget it!
Crazy that you only have 52 GB? should know ms by now!
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Well its only a 120 GB SSD. Mainly only for Windows System.
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Crazy that you only have 52 GB? should know ms by now!
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I was a bit afraid of doing that Mother of All Updates with only 14 GB of free space on the SSD. However, as I checked today, the system said everything is up to date, and the Windows Update history doesn't show the slightest trace of any Fall Creator Update.

Looks like Windows Update simply skipped that stuff because there's not enough space. Or was I just lucky?
Does your windows update history indicate that "Feature update to Windows 10, version 1709" has been installed? If it does, then it's there.

If not, then it's supposed to inform you that there isn't enough space.

Have you checked your event logs? Windows update sometimes goes a bit odd and the settings widget doesn't tell you that something has gone wrong.

You could download the installation media and do it that way (cough).
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or look under Windows Settings-System-info
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Does your windows update history indicate that "Feature update to Windows 10, version 1709" has been installed? If it does, then it's there.

If not, then it's supposed to inform you that there isn't enough space.

Have you checked your event logs? Windows update sometimes goes a bit odd and the settings widget doesn't tell you that something has gone wrong.

You could download the installation media and do it that way (cough).
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Re: Windows Update

The size of creators update is ~4 GB for 64 bit and ~3 GB for 32 bit, I can't understand why I lost so many GB. Of course it makes a Windows .old file etc etc which I later deleted
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The size of creators update is ~4 GB for 64 bit and ~3 GB for 32 bit, I can't understand why I lost so many GB. Of course it makes a Windows .old file etc etc which I later deleted
I watched mine while it was going on... It gets bigger once things start happening. The download may only be 4GB, but it is compressed to save download bandwidth. Once the process starts unpacking the archive(s) you can easily end up with a significantly larger space requirement.

Windows Update used to be pretty good until about windows 8, then it went downhill. I've spent a fair bit of time recovering machines which wer broken because something was wrong with the drivers supplied by windows update (most notably a bad wireless card update on a machine which doesn't have an Ethernet jack).
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Does your windows update history indicate that "Feature update to Windows 10, version 1709" has been installed? If it does, then it's there.

If not, then it's supposed to inform you that there isn't enough space.

Have you checked your event logs? Windows update sometimes goes a bit odd and the settings widget doesn't tell you that something has gone wrong.
Only version 1703 in the history. Can't find anything significant in the event log either. What should it read?

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Windows Update used to be pretty good until about windows 8, then it went downhill.
My first Windows 7 computer, immediately after initial installation of the system, told me that Service Pack 1 was due. It rumbled around on the HDD for about 45 minutes, then produced an error coder which could not be found anywhere on the Internets. It has periodically done the same thing ever since.

Needless to mention M$ blamed the maker of the hardware and vice versa, the usual game we all love.

I tried just about every kind of fix I could find anywhere, messing around in the Registry, separately downloading the entire package from M$, clean installs, all of that stuff with all firewall and other guards down, to no avail. Still no Service Pack 1. I gave up a year or two ago, after having wasted countless hours.
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Re: Windows Update

So check if an update is available


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Only version 1703 in the history. Can't find anything significant in the event log either. What should it read?


My first Windows 7 computer, immediately after initial installation of the system, told me that Service Pack 1 was due. It rumbled around on the HDD for about 45 minutes, then produced an error coder which could not be found anywhere on the Internets. It has periodically done the same thing ever since.

Needless to mention M$ blamed the maker of the hardware and vice versa, the usual game we all love.

I tried just about every kind of fix I could find anywhere, messing around in the Registry, separately downloading the entire package from M$, clean installs, all of that stuff with all firewall and other guards down, to no avail. Still no Service Pack 1. I gave up a year or two ago, after having wasted countless hours.
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Only version 1703 in the history. Can't find anything significant in the event log either. What should it read?
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Still no Service Pack 1. I gave up a year or two ago, after having wasted countless hours.
Typically you'll find errors in the "System" eventlog, source "WindowsUpdate". (The "Setup" eventlog only reports successes.)

There is a fixit widget for windows update: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...troubleshooter

You know what the proper name for a Computer is in German, right?



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well he should first check if an update is available.
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Typically you'll find errors in the "System" eventlog, source "WindowsUpdate". (The "Setup" eventlog only reports successes.)

There is a fixit widget for windows update: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...troubleshooter

You know what the proper name for a Computer is in German, right?



"Zeitvernichtungsanlage"
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well he should first check if an update is available.
Which he did. Or do you think there is some other interpretation of:
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However, as I checked today, the system said everything is up to date, and the Windows Update history doesn't show the slightest trace of any Fall Creator Update.
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Re: Windows Update

OK. Sorry did not see that. Yes the fix might work.
Or its not rolled out yet to all PC's.

or try this

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...JewMTeEWB61g)()


When will you get the update? Microsoft says “the first phase will target newer devices … we will then expand the Creators Update release to additional devices based on the feedback.”


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Well yeah, that's what I did. Nothing there.
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Did that too, to no avail. Same with on said Win7 computer that refuses to install Service Pack 1. It was just one of several dozen things that allegedly help. Not.
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Re: Windows Update

Well have you tried this.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...b00afbc3da30)()



https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...ws10startfresh
Do a new install not an update. But you need minimum 20 GB free space
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Well yeah, that's what I did. Nothing there.

Did that too, to no avail. Same with on said Win7 computer that refuses to install Service Pack 1. It was just one of several dozen things that allegedly help. Not.
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Well have you tried this.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...b00afbc3da30)()

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...ws10startfresh
Do a new install not an update. But you need minimum 20 GB free space
The question is, why should I go through all that hassle for a computer that only runs Wordpad for the logbook and a navigation program? The only thing that uses more than the computer's very own resources is the AIS (Automatic Identification System), which uses the Internet to download information on big vessels that could get in my way (or rather I into theirs). I have AIS on the smartphone too, from which I can automatically transfer the data to the tablet as an overlay on the nautical chart. Besides that, I have a pretty powerful radar to spot the big pots too.

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Well yeah, that's what I did. Nothing there.

Did that too, to no avail. Same with on said Win7 computer that refuses to install Service Pack 1. It was just one of several dozen things that allegedly help. Not.
They did throttle the release, and there have been updates to the update (and even multiple versions of the update to the update).

Is your machine by any chance a Clover Trail CPU?
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Yes not worth it
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The question is, why should I go through all that hassle for a computer that only runs Wordpad for the logbook and a navigation program? The only thing that uses more than the computer's very own resources is the AIS (Automatic Identification System), which uses the Internet to download information on big vessels that could get in my way (or rather I into theirs). I have AIS on the smartphone too, from which I can automatically transfer the data to the tablet as an overlay on the nautical chart. Besides that, I have a pretty powerful radar to spot the big pots too.

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Is your machine by any chance a Clover Trail CPU?
Bay Trail T (Z3735F).

The funny thing is, I actually have two of them, involuntarily, sort of. I ordered one from Amazon US. It arrived with a cracked screen without the slightest trace of damage on the packaging, both the box for the computer proper, neatly cushioned in lots of bubble wrap, and the outer box for shipping. In other words, it got packed in China with a shattered screen.

So I called Amazon and was told that they were sending a new one, without me having to send the broken one back. Now that's American customer service (not always, but try to get such in Switzerland). I got the new tablet, and I bought a replacement screen for about 15 bucks. It needed quite a bit of very careful heat gun work to remove the cracked screen, with hundreds of shards. Putting the new screen in was a cinch, though.

Now I always have a backup computer. The track data, i.e. the records of routes to be steered by the autopilot and those already covered, is automatically saved on a Micro SD card every ten seconds, so, if the tablet being used fails, all I have to do is to swap the card and the computer, a matter of less than a minute. Can be important on a rough trip.
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I have a dirt-cheap RCA Cambio tablet with only 32 GB on its SSD. Unfortunately, it came with Windoze 10, which I hate only slightly less than Windoze 8...
I have no problem wiping win-10 off brand new computers and install win-7 instead. Even on those of friends and neighbours

Yes, I know, I will have to get more seriously acquainted with Linux soon ....
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