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Buying new laptop help

I started looking today, but didnít see anything that fits what I want. My old one was slowly dying so I thought Iíd wait for a good deal to come along. But just now my husband killed it!!! So if anyone has seen a good deal Iíd really appreciate the help and you might just be saving my marriage as well.

I mainly use it for normal surfing, but I do tend to have a lot of tabs open at once, whilst streaming something, so have mainly been looking at an Intel i7 processor. I would like to spend around chf 800. I know Iíll get something better for more, but I have 4 kids who sometimes use it as well and so my experience is, rather a little cheaper and then not be annoyed when I have to replace it in 3 years. I find a good touchpad important. Iíve been using an asus, which has been good, though still not as good as Mac. I tried some in Mediamarkt today and there were quite a few that didnít scroll smoothly at all.

I do like Mac, but canít justify spending twice as much on it. I did see a MacBook Air for chf900, but Iím unsure if it really will be good enough.

Any help would be truly appreciated!
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Old 11.01.2018, 09:54
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If you only really use it for surfing and streaming, have a look ata Chromebook. My wife has one and it's entirely up to the job. Lighter than most laptops too.
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Re: Buying new laptop help

Do you need something with DVD.

If not, Migros has this for 50% off. Not an i7 but good for surfing:

https://www.melectronics.ch/de/p/798...-c0ej-notebook

Otherwise with i7:

https://www.melectronics.ch/de/p/798...-72ud-notebook
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I started looking today, but didn’t see anything that fits what I want. My old one was slowly dying so I thought I’d wait for a good deal to come along. But just now my husband killed it!!! So if anyone has seen a good deal I’d really appreciate the help and you might just be saving my marriage as well.

I mainly use it for normal surfing, but I do tend to have a lot of tabs open at once, whilst streaming something, so have mainly been looking at an Intel i7 processor. I would like to spend around chf 800. I know I’ll get something better for more, but I have 4 kids who sometimes use it as well and so my experience is, rather a little cheaper and then not be annoyed when I have to replace it in 3 years. I find a good touchpad important. I’ve been using an asus, which has been good, though still not as good as Mac. I tried some in Mediamarkt today and there were quite a few that didn’t scroll smoothly at all.

I do like Mac, but can’t justify spending twice as much on it. I did see a MacBook Air for chf900, but I’m unsure if it really will be good enough.

Any help would be truly appreciated!
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  • Quad core Intel Core i7-8550u (the new coffee lake one, far more powerful multi-tasking performance than any previous mobile i7 processor)
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It has enough power to easily last 3 years, and the build quality will be excellent as it's a probook designed for rugged business use.
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i7 for surfing, what is the world coming to? You can surf well with just i3, 8gb ram and adblock
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Sorry to disappoint.
This is what I was advised in the store and has also been my own experience. My current laptop had i7 and my husbands does not. I cannot work on his. I tend to have about 20-30 tabs open at a time, often more depending on how many projects I'm working on and usually stream something in another window when things get boring. My husband's really cant handle this, while mine has no problem whatsoever. Maybe it sounds ridiculous to you, but the speed and ease is worth it to me.
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Thanks for all the suggestions so far, I'm looking into them.
I really appreciate it.
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Sorry to disappoint.
This is what I was advised in the store and has also been my own experience. My current laptop had i7 and my husbands does not. I cannot work on his. I tend to have about 20-30 tabs open at a time, often more depending on how many projects I'm working on and usually stream something in another window when things get boring. My husband's really cant handle this, while mine has no problem whatsoever. Maybe it sounds ridiculous to you, but the speed and ease is worth it to me.
This might interest you: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/d...jodocebajanakg
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Sorry to disappoint.
This is what I was advised in the store and has also been my own experience. My current laptop had i7 and my husbands does not. I cannot work on his. I tend to have about 20-30 tabs open at a time, often more depending on how many projects I'm working on and usually stream something in another window when things get boring. My husband's really cant handle this, while mine has no problem whatsoever. Maybe it sounds ridiculous to you, but the speed and ease is worth it to me.
i'm also incredibly impatient when it comes to browsing and use many tabs.

lots of ram is essential and i go for a minimum of 16gb ram to avoid tabs being paged out (also disable automatic tab discarding). chrome needs 50mb per tab just to maintain state without content.

fast cpu is also important, but i7 is a marketing tier/term, you can also get fast processors branded as i5.

i have a samsung chromebook pro which i use for light browsing. it is also much slower than i would like, but it is light and comfortable to use. for serious use, i wouldn't go for a laptop but instead use a desktop with a fast processor and a much bigger screen.
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Sorry to disappoint.
This is what I was advised in the store and has also been my own experience. My current laptop had i7 and my husbands does not. I cannot work on his. I tend to have about 20-30 tabs open at a time, often more depending on how many projects I'm working on and usually stream something in another window when things get boring. My husband's really cant handle this, while mine has no problem whatsoever. Maybe it sounds ridiculous to you, but the speed and ease is worth it to me.
sounds like you need more then 8gb of memory then, cheap pc and performance aren't compatible words

I just bought an acer i7 from interdiscount, has 32gb of memory and so far is handling all my 3d work needs (not games) but that was 1300chf

personally I'd steer clear from anything with low end graphics, eg intel shared memory graphics, but that's going to be tough with 800chf.

try 2nd hand?
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Old 11.01.2018, 12:24
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fast cpu is also important, but i7 is a marketing tier/term, you can also get fast processors branded as i5.
if you have time to compare this site is an eye opener some cheaper cpu's way out perform some quite expensive ones, always worth checking before you buy

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/

you can see that quite a few i5's out perform i7's

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/laptop.html
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Sorry to disappoint.
This is what I was advised in the store and has also been my own experience. My current laptop had i7 and my husbands does not. I cannot work on his. I tend to have about 20-30 tabs open at a time, often more depending on how many projects I'm working on and usually stream something in another window when things get boring. My husband's really cant handle this, while mine has no problem whatsoever. Maybe it sounds ridiculous to you, but the speed and ease is worth it to me.
Sounds like someone might be bitcoin mining on one or the other of those tabs
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MacBook Air CHF899 https://www.manor.ch/fr/shop/multime.../p/P2-27007001
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Mmm. And you do know they have a vested interest in selling a higher spec than you actually need?

Given Spectre and Meltdown, perhaps an intel processor isn't the best choice?
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sounds like you need more then 8gb of memory then, cheap pc and performance aren't compatible words
8GB of RAM is more than enough for 30 tabs and streaming.

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This is what I was advised in the store and has also been my own experience. My current laptop had i7 and my husbands does not. I cannot work on his. I tend to have about 20-30 tabs open at a time, often more depending on how many projects I'm working on and usually stream something in another window when things get boring. My husband's really cant handle this, while mine has no problem whatsoever. Maybe it sounds ridiculous to you, but the speed and ease is worth it to me.
You don't NEED an i7 for 30 tabs and streaming... but if you can find one for a good price, like I linked above, then it will last you ages.

Here is also an i5 8250u quad core with 16GB RAM for the same price as the i7 I linked above... but I would buy the i7 for the same price and you can always buy a cheap RAM upgrade later.
https://www.digitec.ch/en/s1/product...ebooks-6932434
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Re: Buying new laptop help

A couple of questions as I read between the lines.

You seem to be working in only one location (home). Do you really need a laptop or would a desktop with a mini-tower be ok? You can build a really good one with a decent HD screen, fast i7 processor, lots of RAM etc. for about the price you mention. Some of the members can spec what you need (or I can get you a parts list) and you go for the lowest price source (but in stock) on Toppreise. Assembly is not that difficult.

By the way, you are asking for performance that a "cheap" laptop is not made to handle.

You did not mention a screen size for the laptop. If you have that much stuff open, I would look at a 17" model just for screen size. You will also get a better price/performance ratio as the manufacture is not obliged to use the newest, smallest components to fit into a sub-15" model. Once again if you are not dragging the laptop around with you all day. Think transportable vs. portable.

The lifetime of a tower system will also be much longer as you can easily upgrade as needed.
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Cheapest Macbook easily handles a truckload of tabs.
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You don't NEED an i7 for 30 tabs and streaming... but if you can find one for a good price, like I linked above, then it will last you ages.

Here is also an i5 8250u quad core with 16GB RAM for the same price as the i7 I linked above... but I would buy the i7 for the same price and you can always buy a cheap RAM upgrade later.
https://www.digitec.ch/en/s1/product...ebooks-6932434
re ram upgrade, not really cheap to upgrade a laptop's ram and generally they max out the slots, so you would need to throw away your 8gb (usually 2 * 4gb) and buy 2 * 8gb to get to 16gb. If you think you'll need 16 then get 16 to start with

eg on the laptop I just bought it was only 200chf more to get 32 rather then 16gb, I couldn't buy 32gb of ddr4 ram for anywhere near that so it was a no brainer.


* yes some better manufactures don't do this I know, my older HP had a totally free memory slot I could plug just about anything in


ETA and yes, unless you really need a laptop then a desktop will always beat a laptop, and are much easier and cheaper to upgrade.
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Re: Buying new laptop help

I was going to suggest that if your kids sometimes need a laptop, look for a second-hand inexpensive one for them and keep the new one for yourself off limits to them.

Just my 2 cents worth....
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i7-CPU can mean a lot of things and is a very wide range of performance as it covers various generations and core configurations. It to not see much information when one says "an i7-CPU". For example: an i5 7300HQ will outperform an i7 7500U.

@bigblue2 Is this your notbook?http://www.interdiscount.ch/idshop/p...2.8/detail.jsf

It is now CHF 1199 and really good deal if it used mostly at home or where a wall socket is available.

ēIntel Core i7-7700HQ,2.8 GHz Quad Core
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ēNVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050, 2 GB GDDR5
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Cannot be ordered online. Must be picked up in store, still available at many places.
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