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Alternatives to BBC news

For many years the BBC has been one of my main news sites. But over the last few years I have seen their product deteriorate significantly.

I am seeing too much sport included in their news feeds. This despite the dedicated sports feeds.

I am seeing too many videos with no text explanations. Too much click bait headlines. One is forced to watch videos to get the story and, too often there is no real story just talking heads.

It is become more and more like reading the daily mail.

I’m often asked to do surveys from the BBC site and I can see from the questions asked they see video, more videos and even more videos as their future. I want text, more text and even more text to inform me.

Intent is not to debate these points but to seek recommendation for alternative news sources. I am looking for mostly unbiased reporting in English of international news that hasn’t sunk to click bait headlines. Informative but not opinionated.

All suggestions would be welcomed. Sarcastic comments (this is ELF) will be ignored.
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Old 12.06.2018, 10:25
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https://www.aljazeera.com/
The reports there are of variable quality, but sometimes provide another perspective.
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Old 12.06.2018, 10:26
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For many years the BBC has been one of my main news sites. But over the last few years I have seen their product deteriorate significantly.

I am seeing too much sport included in their news feeds. This despite the dedicated sports feeds.

I am seeing too many videos with no text explanations. Too much click bait headlines. One is forced to watch videos to get the story and, too often there is no real story just talking heads.

It is become more and more like reading the daily mail.

I’m often asked to do surveys from the BBC site and I can see from the questions asked they see video, more videos and even more videos as their future. I want text, more text and even more text to inform me.

Intent is not to debate these points but to seek recommendation for alternative news sources. I am looking for mostly unbiased reporting in English of international news that hasn’t sunk to click bait headlines. Informative but not opinionated.

All suggestions would be welcomed. Sarcastic comments (this is ELF will be ignored.
I'd agree with that. I stopped using the BBC new website a long time ago (but BBC Radiio 4 is still the tops!).

I've got a Daily Telegraph online subscription though I sometimes go to the Guardian website to remind myself that the Telegraph one is money well spent.

The Daily Mail is good for a laugh.
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I am looking for mostly unbiased reporting in English of international news that hasn’t sunk to click bait headlines. Informative but not opinionated.
unbiased, not opinionated news does not exist. in that case, I would recommend to read from as many different sources as possible so that you get some different points of view.
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Re: Alternatives to BBC news

I agree about the BBC, lots of clickbait and little depth unless you watch one of the specific programs on a topic.

It seems opinions will be divided (see comment from Tom1234) but I actually follow The Guardian and get news that way via Twitter and their website. It's not perfect but less clickbait and more depth than the BBC.

I haven't tried The Telegraph as it used to be called the "Torygraph" and I'm a leftie
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Despite the very valid points raised, I have yet to find a better alternative to the beeb. I used to use the Telegraph, which was my morning paper of choice 20 years ago back in the UK, but they went more and more political in their general coverage, and then started making you pay, and I'm damned if I'm going to pay for what had been getting ever more biased coverage. The Grauniad is too far left-leaning, and doesn't seem to go into detail except on political content.

The only I've I haven't tried for a while is the Independent, so I might give it another try for a while. At a quick glance it doesn't look too bad.
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The only I've I haven't tried for a while is the Independent, so I might give it another try for a while. At a quick glance it doesn't look too bad.[/QUOTE]


Has been reading the Independent for a long time. Again, they copy/paste quite a lot from Reddit. Both is good. Daily Mail for fun. Funny, I still trust the Beeb
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The Times and Sunday Times at £5/month is good value and delivered to my tablet and phone every day, if somewhat slanted in its opinions...
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But over the last few years I have seen their product deteriorate significantly.
I've long stopped looking at their news site for this exact reason. All too often, major stories break far later than on competitor sites, and the content is light weight.

I'm firmly down the Reuters & Sky News route now.
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On the main stories of the day I read across the whole spectrum and draw a conclusion somewhere in the middle.

If I want to read about what is causing cancer today, who's "all grown up" and who has "endless pins", not to mention pick up a faddy diet or two consisting of "a handful of organic almonds and a jug of green sludge" I read the Daily Fail.
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I've long stopped looking at their news site for this exact reason. All too often, major stories break far later than on competitor sites, and the content is light weight.

I'm firmly down the Reuters & Sky News route now.
Am reading one of John Simpson's books about his time as a journalist at the moment and when recalling his first days at the BBC in the 1960s he says they regarded Reuters as the most reliable news source.

Have to admit that I tend to go to the BBC website first for news, but often prefer CNN International's TV coverage. Their foreign correspondents seem top notch.
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Old 12.06.2018, 12:35
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unbiased, not opinionated news does not exist. in that case, I would recommend to read from as many different sources as possible so that you get some different points of view.
I did that for about a year once. But you get to the point where you have to ask yourself, what you want to spend your free time on in life
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Am reading one of John Simpson's books about his time as a journalist at the moment and when recalling his first days at the BBC in the 1960s he says they regarded Reuters as the most reliable news source.
It's the bastion of accurate, impartial news reporting. My reporting dream team would be a Reuters journalist with a Magnum photographer.

When I worked in travel, all our news feed was from Reuters, so any plane crashes, strikes, hotel fires, etc...was all fed to us instantly from Reuters, and I doubt that there is a major news organisation in the World that doesn't have a Reuters news feed set up.
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Thanks everyone for their responses. Not too certain what gato’s groan was about.

I’ve found that I can get free RSS feeds from Reuters here: https://www.reuters.com/tools/rss I’ve chosen a few of their feeds which (may) interest me. The price is right too ...
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Re: Alternatives to BBC news

I used to read the BBC website a lot and still do from time to time. They are quite good for getting an overview of the main points of a story but they don't go into details as much as I'd like. Also too many magazine type stories that are not really news and not really balanced.

Also, they are often slow on picking up stories, especially stories that don't confirm left wing viewpoints.

The Telegraph I find isn't as good as it once was. But they still have some good material here and there.

The Guardian is useful to get the other side of a story.

the Economist is amusing if you want to see how you can twist any fact to fit a foregone conclusion.

FT is good if you want something that's refereshingly different. I don't always agree, mind you. But they are often thought provoking. Which is what journalism should be.

For balanced, objective and well rersearched views I can recommend The Onion.
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Cheers! The Onion feed is here: http://www.theonion.com/rss
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I used to read the BBC website a lot and still do from time to time. They are quite good for getting an overview of the main points of a story but they don't go into details as much as I'd like. Also too many magazine type stories that are not really news and not really balanced.

Also, they are often slow on picking up stories, especially stories that don't confirm left wing viewpoints.

The Telegraph I find isn't as good as it once was. But they still have some good material here and there.

The Guardian is useful to get the other side of a story.

the Economist is amusing if you want to see how you can twist any fact to fit a foregone conclusion.

FT is good if you want something that's refereshingly different. I don't always agree, mind you. But they are often thought provoking. Which is what journalism should be.

For balanced, objective and well rersearched views I can recommend The Onion.
I go to BBC to see what happened and elsewhere to see why it happened. BBC bias annoys. CNN is worse, obvious infotainment. Reuter used to be good but also find it suiting certain politically okayed agenda.

The Onion is cool.
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Hi,

I use multiple sources but I still like the BBC for most Things apart from Brexit which is much too close to pro Brexit propoganda but for other subjects I like them. I also look at sky news, Guardian and to make my blood boil the daily bigot (Daily Mail). If I want to know what the flat worlders are thinking I look at foxnews. However, I don't treat foxnews as a news source.

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It's the bastion of accurate, impartial news reporting. My reporting dream team would be a Reuters journalist with a Magnum photographer.

When I worked in travel, all our news feed was from Reuters, so any plane crashes, strikes, hotel fires, etc...was all fed to us instantly from Reuters, and I doubt that there is a major news organisation in the World that doesn't have a Reuters news feed set up.
Reuters is my goto resource. Has been ever since I worked for them.

(But their website is a bit taxing on a slow machine/link)
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