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do you know if the the regulations vary from canton to canton or is it one rule for all? thx again

I think it also depends on the commune - I was told for example that Founex near Geneva bans dishes, in view at least. I don't know if this is true, but it would be a strange thing for the estate agent to tell me there if it wasn't correct as I was potentially looking to buy a property.
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do you know if the the regulations vary from canton to canton or is it one rule for all? thx again
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Depends if you own or rent. I you own your property, then can install upto a 90cm dish without a building permit. Otherwise you have to get permission from your landlord, but you can install a dish inside the balcony without your landlords permission.

Edit: Never heard about not being visible form the street, think this is BullS*. In one rented apartment, I put a small (Sky mini dish) on top of the pergola over the Balcony at the back of the house (not visible from the street). I was asked to move it inside the Balcony, so I installed a 90cm dish inside the Balcony which stopped the comlaints even though it was right at the edge and clearly visible where the mini dish was at the back of the balcony.....
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I think it also depends on the commune - I was told for example that Founex near Geneva bans dishes, in view at least. I don't know if this is true, but it would be a strange thing for the estate agent to tell me there if it wasn't correct as I was potentially looking to buy a property.
You're not allowed to have a 'visible' dish in Carouge (GE) either. So you'll need to check with your particular commune about what their rules are. A quick look around the neighbourhood should give you a clue though.
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Re: Getting Sky TV

I just arrived been here now just over a week. I want to set up Sky ...I am Technically inept and want to go through a provider can anyone suggest options.

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I just arrived been here now just over a week. I want to set up Sky ...I am Technically inept and want to go through a provider can anyone suggest options.

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Check out Williams Services.
Young Daryl Williams installed a Sky system for me a couple of weeks ago.
He covers Blonay and operates out of Geneva.
It wasn't cheap, but he turned up when he said he would and was very efficient.
I'm sure you can Google the number but, if you have a problem, send me a pm and I'll try to find the card he left me.
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Getting Sky TV in Basel

I wish to get Sky TV in Basel and already have the Sky box. How does one install a satellite and connect amd align it? Whichnsat dish do I need? Can I tap into the existing terrestrial antenna cables in the house or do I need to lay a whole new cable from the satellite dish on the roof to the ground floor to the Sky box? Does the sat need to an electricity feed? Any help appreciated.
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Re: Getting Sky TV

ok easy to set up.

sky box on its own will get bc, itv, c4 c5 + all the other free sat channels. with a subscription card you get everythiing else.

dish : you can get away with a mini dish but expect it to break up during bad weather. better is 80cm dish.

you will need to add a seperate cable as the sat cable is different to the normal tv cable.

the dish :

http://www.dishpointer.com/ filll your address in and select 19.2 astra.

zoom in on you address and see if you have somewhere the dish can be mounted. If you own your own house then its not an issue.

only power needs to go to the sky box. the dish takes its power from the sky box.

I am about mon to thurs so give me a message if you want me to visit and point whilst sucking in air in, in traditional builder style.
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Re: Getting Sky TV

Hey Rob, thanks for that quick and clear reply!
May call you in a weeks time!
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Re: Getting Sky TV

On the question of whether you can tap into the existing cable, depending on the quality of the cable yes it is possible with a multiswitch. The multiswitch requires power and takes feeds from the satellite and terrestrial/cable to combine the signals into the cables going to rooms in the house.

This setup has the advantage that you can watch satellite TV at any of the TV points fed by the multiswitch with suitable freesat or skybox

Rob is right about dish size; and if your line of sight is not great you might need more than 80cm.
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Old 09.10.2012, 10:22
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Normal tv cable isn't really suitable unless its high quality, yes it does work but I have seen a significant signal loss. Can only try and see!
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Re: Getting Sky TV

Get double shielded coax and don't waste money on boosters. Don't forget that if the signal from the LNB is poor, the booster will amplify this as well.

Can't stress enough that the bigger the dish the better, BUT do make sure it's a high quality dish with high gain and not a cheap poorly made dish.

I have used Triax over the last many years and the quality is outstanding, but I'm sure there are many other brilliant makes out there...
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Re: Getting Sky TV

Frank, agreed. I wasted CHF 99 on a booster which would have been better spent on a bigger and better quality dish. Now have 100cm and works fine except for thunderstorms.
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Re: Getting Sky TV

I would not base my Sky viewing on the Zone 1 Sky mesh dish (or even Zone 2) in Switzerland at any cost as most free channels (such as BBC, ITV, CH4, CH5 etc) are now on Astra 1N with a pretty tight foot print (see Uk Ku-band spot beam). This said, there might be "spots" where a smaller dish can be used, but I would not bank on it...

Bigger in this case IS better
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Don't get too comfortable with the current signal strength. At the moment (for FTA transmissions from the UK - BBC, ITV, etc) we are being served by Astra 1N which was moved to 28.2 on an emergency basis to cover for the now dead 2D. 1N has a larger footprint than 2D which is why we have all been enjoying stronger signals and less thunderstorm dropouts in recent months than before.

However 1N is temporary and will soon be moved to the German zone of the sky. The long-term replacement for 2D has just been launched and should start testing this month. It goes under the romantic name of 2F. The first footprints for 2F were very worrying as it looked very concentrated on the UK. Fortunately the newest footprints look very close to the old 2D so with any luck we should be back to where we were a year or so ago.

However one caution. The new generation have a much sharper drop-off at the edge of the beam than the old ones. Apparently people in Cyprus who used to be able to get 2D with a ~5 metre dish (perhaps a touch large for the balcony) cannot get 1N at all. On the same basis there is a risk that the 2F edge will be equally sharp - it is still not possible to say with certainty that we will be able to get the signal here as it does depend on how sharp the beam edge is.
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Re: Getting Sky TV

@baboon

Thanks for the info, will see how good a signal we receive in the future. I have a 1m wide 1.1 tall Visio Sat dish which works really well near Zurich. If necessary, I can move upto a 1.2m (and hope the neighbours don't notice ). Have a second (smaller) dish for Hotbird and Astra 1 but could move these to the 1.2m and have just one dish but with 28.2 as the central focal point.
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Re: Getting Sky TV

i sometimes stop over in kloten and that has an 80 cm dish, we have about 90% strength and quality. With a 1m dish you must have a fantastic signal.

The agency complained about the dish (it had been there 5 years) and that it must not be visible - not a problem we simply placed a piece of greay balcony screen around the balcony and raised it to a height of 1M.

Our neighbour was told they cant have the dish outside the balcony - it was a flat dish with placement suggested by the agency ! so instead they now have a 1.5M dish right in the middle of the balcony as a big FU
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Re: Getting Sky TV

This is one area that bigger is better (in most cases, unless you have a badly designed dish which I think is not the case these days).

I do have a good signal 100% most of the time, even now with clouds and rain. The only reason to change is if the footprint changes and we start having problems. Alignment was also done using a professional meter which helps too. Using the best cables with shortest run possible and no joins...

I had a mini dish above the Balcony, which I was told to move by the rental agency (it was pretty well out of site at the rear of the balcony where the pergola went under the roof), so I installed a 90cm dish inside the Balcony close to the edge so was clearly visible in a simular FU response. 1.5m is BIG. 1m (wide) is the maximum you can normally install without building permission (hence my 1m wide, 1.1 tall dish).
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I think it also depends on the commune - I was told for example that Founex near Geneva bans dishes, in view at least. I don't know if this is true, but it would be a strange thing for the estate agent to tell me there if it wasn't correct as I was potentially looking to buy a property.
Hi guys.

Just to let you know Founex do not ban dishes at all. You have the right to put a dish up anywhere in Founex which is 80cm or less in diameter.

Although if you are renting some regies will have a clause in the contract which will not allow dishes but this is just due to the fact they think it makes the building ugly etc.

Don't forget most dishes can be installed on the floor and out of view..... So in my opinion and experience if you can hide your dish don't even bother asking the regie.

He that helps some people......
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Re: Getting Sky TV

WS, do you also set up satellites, and know much about the TB/satellite options, over the border in France?
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WS, do you also set up satellites, and know much about the TB/satellite options, over the border in France?
Hi

What do you mean by TB??

And yes I set up dishes for a living in Geneva/Vaud and France.

I am on EF solely to give advice and help people doing DIY satellite set ups.

So how may I help you??
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Re: Getting Sky TV

"TB"? My mistake - TV. I'm currently with Orange in France but I think it's expensive and there's bugger-all on worth watching - the non-pay films available are rubbish. (Not impressed by the phone/internet service either.)

I'm not, however, looking to set anything up until next summer (I won't be based here for a few months), just wondering what the possibilities are in Evian.

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