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"TB"? My mistake - TV. I'm currently with Orange in France but I think it's expensive and there's bugger-all on worth watching - the non-pay films available are rubbish. (Not impressed by the phone/internet service either.)

I'm not, however, looking to set anything up until next summer (I won't be based here for a few months), just wondering what the possibilities are in Evian.

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Yes orange TV is a waste Of time and money. Nothing on there for English speakers.

You have 2 options-

1. Freesat TV. Requires a dish pointing at Astra 28.2 and a Freesat decoder. This will give you 150 stations TV and radio all in English and like the name says its FREE. No monthly charge at all.

2. Sky TV. Requires dish as well on Astra 28.2 and a Sky decoder with card. Packages start at £22 and go right up to £66. This will give you an endless number of channels including all the latest movies and sporting action.

Hope that helps mate.
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Re: Getting Sky TV

It does, thanks. I'll make a note of your username and get in touch nearer the time - do you have a website? Or pm me your direct e-mail address please.

Some time ago i did hear that the satellite reception wasn't that great around here (Evian, south side of the lake).
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Re: Getting Sky TV

As a word of caution on the Freesat the new Astra 2F is moving into position to take over, BBC and ITV Freesat signals and I'm waiting to see what the signal strength will be. Currently in Engelberg I have a 80cm dish and a good signal but the new sat is supposed to be in position very soon.
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As a word of caution on the Freesat the new Astra 2F is moving into position to take over, BBC and ITV Freesat signals and I'm waiting to see what the signal strength will be. Currently in Engelberg I have a 80cm dish and a good signal but the new sat is supposed to be in position very soon.
Firstly, it is my understanding the there is no special Freesat satellite. Freesat is simply an EPG (Electronic Programme Guide) and the same signals are received by Sky boxes and non-EPG boxes available in Switzerland.

Secondly do you have any hard evidence, like links, to the change in footprint? This is a rumour that has done the rounds for years now...
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What is freesat?
We're the subscription-free satellite TV service. Almost every home in the UK can enjoy our 150+ channels, brilliant On Demand TV and five free HD channels.

www.freesat.co.uk
Subscription free because it uses a focused beam which is cantered over the UK. This is to be able to transmit Free To Air so no encryption is required. Most of the stuff is copyrighted only for transmission into the UK. The beam is not so well shaped because the UK is long and think. It must cover all the way up to Scotland and the Scottish Isle as well. So its footprint is elongated.
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From Wikipedia.

Astra 2F is one of the Astra communications satellites owned and operated by SES, launched in September 2012 to the Astra 28.2°E orbital slot.[1] The satellite will provide free-to-air and encrypted direct-to-home (DTH) digital TV and satellite broadband services for Europe and Africa.
Astra 2F is the first of three ‘second generation’ satellites for the 28.2°E position which will replace the first generation Astra 2A, Astra 2B craft currently there[2] and it will be joined in orbit by Astra 2E and Astra 2G in 2013 and 2014, respectively[3]
Some parts of the construction of Astra 2F by Astrium in Stevenage, UK could be seen in the BBC2 documentary programme, How To Build… A Satellite broadcast on November 27, 2011.
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The Astra 28.2°E position was established in 1998 to provide digital TV, digital radio and multimedia services to the UK and Republic of Ireland, and Astra 2F’s primary mission is to continue this provision as replacement and follow-on capacity to the Astra 2A, Astra 2B, Astra 2D and Astra 1N satellites, delivering programming to almost 13 million satellite homes, over 3 million cable homes, and 700,000 IPTV homes in the UK and Ireland, in particular for channels from the major UK digital satellite TV platforms, BSkyB and Freesat.[4]
In addition, Astra 2F will serve the growing DTH platforms in West Africa such as Ghana’s MultiTV.
Astra 2F will also provide SES Broadband’s first commercial Ka-band satellite broadband service in Europe, delivering high-speed Internet access (at download speeds up to 20Mbit/s) along with VoIP, and IPTV from November 1, 2012.
[edit] Broadcasting footprint

Astra 2F has three Ku-band downlink beams covering Europe and Africa. The Europe beam is centred on the English Channel with maximum signal (for reception on a 40 cm dish) over the UK, Ireland, France, Benelux, and parts of Germany, Austria, and Spain, and reception on a 1m dish extending to North Africa, Poland and the Balkans.
The UK Spot beam provides maximum signal (40 cm dishes) over the UK and Ireland and it is unclear at present (as of August 2012) how far this beam extends and the sharpness of its edge roll-off.[5]
The West Africa beam provides for reception with 60 cm dishes across southern West Africa from Senegal to Nigeria, with a lower signal level (80 cm dishes) extending across the Democratic Republic of Congo.[6]
The Ka-band footprint for satellite broadband provides full service coverage across western Europe from the UK and France in the west to Czech Republic, Austria, Croatia and Boznia Herzegovina in the east.[7]
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Re: Getting Sky TV

ASTRA 2F LOCAL TIME:
16:44:18 UTC:
15:44:18 LATITUDE: 0.07
LONGITUDE: 37.38

Expect arrival time is around 20/11/2012

Am I allowed to post link to a site which has been observing the testing phase which ended around Sunday (at 43.5 deg). Since Sunday its moving at 1.25 deg/day to 28.2
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http://www.ses.com/4628845/astra-2f

Here is SES actual footprint publication (However as far as I know they were always very conservative)

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Re: Getting Sky TV

That's all very well, but what *colour* is it?




[My standard reply to technical answers. Never mind. Moving on.]
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What is freesat?
We're the subscription-free satellite TV service. Almost every home in the UK can enjoy our 150+ channels, brilliant On Demand TV and five free HD channels.

www.freesat.co.uk
Subscription free because it uses a focused beam which is cantered over the UK. This is to be able to transmit Free To Air so no encryption is required. Most of the stuff is copyrighted only for transmission into the UK. The beam is not so well shaped because the UK is long and think. It must cover all the way up to Scotland and the Scottish Isle as well. So its footprint is elongated.
Yes. I have been using a Freesat box here for 3 years and a Sky box too off the same LNB and 80cm dish without problem...
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It does, thanks. I'll make a note of your username and get in touch nearer the time - do you have a website? Or pm me your direct e-mail address please.

Some time ago i did hear that the satellite reception wasn't that great around here (Evian, south side of the lake).

Satellite reception in the Evian area is fine.

Obviously you have to have a clear view of South/East with no BIG trees in the way to get the signal.

If you have a short run from dish to TV the a 65cm dish will do. If its a bit of a long run from dish to TV then probably a 80cm dish is better.
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http://www.ses.com/4628845/astra-2f

Here is SES actual footprint publication (However as far as I know they were always very conservative)

Regards
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In my opinion I can't see why they would want to put a smaller footprint and lose a massive market £$€ of Freesat buyers in Europe! That would be te stupidest thing ever! They would lose so many customers its crazy.

But as Neil has efficiently shown the rumours are true that the footprint will be smaller than before.

I'm crossing my fingers this does not affect all those people here in Geneva with a 65cm dish who want Bbc etc otherwise that is a lot of dish upgrades that will have to be done in time for Christmas!!

We will all just have to wait and see what happens!!

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In my opinion I can't see why they would want to put a smaller footprint and lose a massive market £$€ of Freesat buyers in Europe! That would be te stupidest thing ever! They would lose so many customers its crazy.

But as Neil has efficiently shown the rumours are true that the footprint will be smaller than before.

I'm crossing my fingers this does not affect all those people here in Geneva with a 65cm dish who want Bbc etc otherwise that is a lot of dish upgrades that will have to be done in time for Christmas!!

We will all just have to wait and see what happens!!

That is because the Broadcaster BBC, ITV... are only licensed for the UK and should NOT be broadcasting outside the UK. So for satellite, they sort-of minimise the foot print to show they are trying to comply but in reality they want people to buy into the hardware...

This is my favourite dish:

http://www.visiosat.com/home/gamme/p...hp?cat=1&id=67

90cm wide (the limit without building permission) and 103 tall. It is the width that is in the rules.
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The new Astra 2F satellite is heading for 28 degrees east and should be in place after the weekend. It has been tested a few degrees away so that the tests don't cause interference to present transmissions ... all tests completed, the new satellite is sliding slowly towards 28 degrees east where it will replace Astra 1N very shortly.
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The new Astra 2F satellite is heading for 28 degrees east and should be in place after the weekend. It has been tested a few degrees away so that the tests don't cause interference to present transmissions ... all tests completed, the new satellite is sliding slowly towards 28 degrees east where it will replace Astra 1N very shortly.
It Looks like 90cm will become the standard dish size here in the future!
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SES’ ASTRA 2F SATELLITE STARTS OPERATIONS

21.11.2012
Luxembourg – November 21, 2012 – SES S.A. (Euronext Paris and Luxembourg Stock Exchange: SESG) announced today that the ASTRA 2F satellite has successfully completed its in-orbit testing and is now fully operational and in commercial service at the orbital neighborhood of 28.2/28.5 degrees East. The 52nd SES satellite was successfully launched board an Ariane 5 rocket from Kourou, French Guiana, on September 28, 2012.
ASTRA 2F was built by Astrium in Toulouse using a Eurostar E3000 platform. The multi-mission satellite carries Ku-band and Ka-band payloads for the delivery of high-performance Direct-to-Home (DTH) and next generation broadband services in Europe and Africa. Of the spacecraft's payload, 48 Ku-band transponders cover Europe and 12 Ku-band transponders are dedicated to sub-Saharan Africa, while 3 Ka-band transponders will allow SES Broadband Services to support download speeds of up to 20 Mbps.
ASTRA 2F is part of a larger fleet replacement and expansion programme at the 28.2/28.5 degrees East neighborhood, consisting of ASTRA 2E, 2F and 2G, that provides replacement and growth capacity for the UK and Ireland as well as for other services in and outside of Europe. ASTRA 2E and ASTRA 2G, also under construction with Astrium, are scheduled for launch in 2013 and 2014 respectively.
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Two BBC HD channels have been switched on today. Anyone tried to receive them yet?
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There are two test channels on:

11203 (or 4)

Symbol rate 23000

Polarity Horizontal

With the (no idea what it means) ID 8901 and 8911.
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