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TV replay is maybe at an end!

They want that you watch the ads and not skip over them with replay. Seems they want to change the laws

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Gee, I thought this was an English Language forum.
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Old 05.07.2018, 15:10
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Well if you can do better find an English link
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Well if you can do better find an English link
Or how about you give a bit better info on the story you want to share for those of us who do not speak German?
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Old 05.07.2018, 16:51
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Re: TV replay is maybe at an end!

Replay TV is virtually the modern and comfortable form of video recorder, which was in the 1990s in almost every household under the flicker box. All told, today TV providers such as Swisscom or Zattoo record the entire program, save it in the cloud and sell Replay TV as an (expensive) additional feature in their TV subscriptions. The TV stations are compensated for this only with a small copyright fee.

This annoys the stations. They lament for years about lost advertising revenue in the millions, which gives them time-shifted television. Their problem: Although Replay TV increases television consumption, the viewers skip the advertising, but ultimately only the subscription-financed TV providers such as Swisscom and UPC benefit. For private, ad-supported broadcasters, the bill will eventually no longer occur if too many viewers skip the ad.

Now the stations have achieved a stage victory in the fight against Replay TV. The National Council of Telecommunications Commission wants to allow time-shifted television only with their consent and prevent the skipping of advertising.

Dear TV channels, we understand that you have to finance your program, but the reason for the lack of advertising revenue is not the evil replay TV, but the more innovative competition. The money of the advertisers now flows to YouTube and Facebook. The money of the consumers to Netflix. Replay TV would be your chance to move with the times. Restricting replay TV and preventing the reels from advertising is the beginning of the end.
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Who watches Swiss TV?
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Old 05.07.2018, 17:38
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Who watches Swiss TV?
People who watch and read their news in German only to complain about it on an English Language forum?
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Who watches Swiss TV?


Less TV consumption - but more replay.The first graph is TV usage.The second graph is replay use

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Who watches Swiss TV?
Swiss people, presumably. But many of us use a Swisscom TV subscription or similar to access all the UK channels, with 30 hours replay, via the home box and apps on a variety of other devices, so it would represent a huge change to viewing habits if that were to be outlawed.
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Old 05.07.2018, 18:25
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Replay TV is virtually the modern and comfortable form of video recorder, which was in the 1990s in almost every household under the flicker box. All told, today TV providers such as Swisscom or Zattoo record the entire program, save it in the cloud and sell Replay TV as an (expensive) additional feature in their TV subscriptions. The TV stations are compensated for this only with a small copyright fee.

This annoys the stations. They lament for years about lost advertising revenue in the millions, which gives them time-shifted television. Their problem: Although Replay TV increases television consumption, the viewers skip the advertising, but ultimately only the subscription-financed TV providers such as Swisscom and UPC benefit. For private, ad-supported broadcasters, the bill will eventually no longer occur if too many viewers skip the ad.

Now the stations have achieved a stage victory in the fight against Replay TV. The National Council of Telecommunications Commission wants to allow time-shifted television only with their consent and prevent the skipping of advertising.

Dear TV channels, we understand that you have to finance your program, but the reason for the lack of advertising revenue is not the evil replay TV, but the more innovative competition. The money of the advertisers now flows to YouTube and Facebook. The money of the consumers to Netflix. Replay TV would be your chance to move with the times. Restricting replay TV and preventing the reels from advertising is the beginning of the end.
How about making the adverts so interesting or entertaining that people actually want to see them?
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Old 05.07.2018, 18:28
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How about making the adverts so interesting or entertaining that people actually want to see them?
Oxymoron alert.
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How about making the adverts so interesting or entertaining that people actually want to see them?
that's called "product placement". tv shows with product placement are then interrupted by commercials.
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Old 05.07.2018, 18:43
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that's called "product placement". tv shows with product placement are then interrupted by commercials.
For example, on the internet, advertisers believe they have found ways to make adverts into clickbait, and make people consume them voluntarily. I don't know how advertising is charged on EF, but on places like facebook I believe you only pay for actual clicks.

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People who watch and read their news in German only to complain about it on an English Language forum?
Or Italian, French, or Rumantsch.

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Old 05.07.2018, 18:56
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Re: TV replay is maybe at an end!

It‘s a losing game for Swiss TV. UK iplayer viewing is now about the same as live TV viewing.

Subscription based TV like Netflix is where the future is. Banning/blocking any kind of recording/catch-up system is move worth of King Canute...
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It‘s a losing game for Swiss TV. UK iplayer viewing is now about the same as live TV viewing.

Subscription based TV like Netflix is where the future is. Banning/blocking any kind of recording/catch-up system is move worth of King Canute...
To be fair iPlayer is BBC and so the programmes would be ad free anyway
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Old 05.07.2018, 19:54
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It‘s a losing game for Swiss TV. UK iplayer viewing is now about the same as live TV viewing.

Subscription based TV like Netflix is where the future is. Banning/blocking any kind of recording/catch-up system is move worth of King Canute...
exactly.

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Old 05.07.2018, 19:55
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It‘s a losing game for Swiss TV. UK iplayer viewing is now about the same as live TV viewing.

Subscription based TV like Netflix is where the future is. Banning/blocking any kind of recording/catch-up system is move worth of King Canute...
Well Swiss TV is not that bad. German TV like RTL etc are bad bad bad. Advertisements interspersed with a few minutes of entertainment.
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Old 05.07.2018, 20:18
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That's an absolutely crazy idea (I think we need to busy our governement with a few difficult initiatives, they seem bored).
Who goes home to watch the teli at a certain time? ROFL.

What's next: A law that the farmers must milk their cows by hand?
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