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Re: Technophobe needs to get out of Jurassic Era!

I also suggest an (older) iPhone, as that's what we did for my octogenerian grandmother and she still likes using it, even years later. She even uses mobile banking applications! (Key to this: her grandchildren helped her set it up just the way she needs it and taught her how to use it on successive visits.) iOS also comes with several features in the settings that are useful for those who are less able than they used to be. To help with her vision problems, we changed the screen settings for large icons and big print against a very bright background. All the apps that she wants are located on the home screen; default apps that she doesn't need are relegated to a 'Don't Touch' folder a few screens away.

In the end, she liked it so much she also bought an iPad for her emails and audiobooks. Win!
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Re: Technophobe needs to get out of Jurassic Era!

Hey Apple or Android, it's a fight that is never going to be resolved.


I suggest you, ask your family and go for a system they use or know better, you set a budget and a person who will help you with it, can suggest you a model or two.


If they are using iPhones go for it, if they are on Android go for that. Because finally you will still go to them and ask how to do this or that. And than it will be much easier for everyone....
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Great link. I have a recent iPhone but I ended up fancying one of those phones myself
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Instruct it vocally and yodelly. . Get a yodel as your ringtone, even better.

And start texting with your thumbs (yes, both), forget the index and glasses on the tip of your nose.


My ring tone is already a yodel!
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In other words, my friends and family are giving me grief for having a first generation Android phone that can't even take WhatsApp and in any case, it is turned off most of the day!


However, recent family events meant I realised I was really disconnected and I need to show willing (albeit reluctantly). So I need a new phone but I have no idea where to start nor even what to ask, so maybe you can help me choose! Here are my specifics:


- I don't play any game and don't intend to, so no Apps for that.
- Requirement from family: "DAD, get WhatsApp!" (I originally thought it was some kind of Australian greeting!)
- I need to be able to access both my work and home emails.
- I like to listen to podcasts from the BBC and the odd Youtube video
- I am useless at directions here in Switzerland, so some kind of App/GPS would be great.
- Being able to download lots of music would be a seller!
- I've been told that something like 4G (somehow I don't think it's 4 grams) is a must nowadays, "especially Dad when you go on your own yodelling up in the mountains and nobody has any idea where you are!" (I quite like it this way, but never mind, I've given up on being out of touch anyway!)
- No need to have a camera (I will not give up my normal camera, never!) but a good microphone for when I want to record my will and last wishes, there is no misunderstand as to who inherit my old camera! Also must be able to record on the spot spontaneous yodelling!
- Digital screens and I have a lack of mutual trust! Whether PC, laptop or phone, the screens don't seem to respond well to my digital touch and freeze. Why is that? I am giving away bad vibes?
- I am painfully slow at texting and need to be able to do it both in English and French, so easy to set up language texting.
- Anything else you can think of?
Buy a SIM free Samsung S7... 325chf https://en.toppreise.ch/prod_444060.html

It a flagship phone from 2 years ago but is still a fantastic phone and I still use it as my primary phone as nothing touches it in terms of price/performance/features. Perfect size screen, amazing display, great camera and also importantly water resistant. it will take a ton of abuse and still come out running. Battery life is also good and it is perfectly fast enough for your needs.

Combine it with the Galaxy S7 Case Rugged Armor case and it will stand up to a lot of abuse, it's the combo I use and I have dropped mine a fair few times with no ill effects https://www.amazon.com/Spigen-Rugged.../dp/B01A7ICWTQ

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Surely an iPhone is better for a non-techie?

You can do all the stuff you want
No tech knowledge required
You can walk in personally to the Apple store in Geneva for help
It will last a long time
It just works

No need to spend 1000chf on the latest model, a two year old model will last another few years .
Come on what a load of rubbish... Android is now used by the majority of the mobile market, do you think they are all "techies"? Welcome to 10 years ago.

It's just another operating system and now very easy to use. Even my grandmother has one.

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Old 30.11.2018, 08:18
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No need to have a camera (I will not give up my normal camera, never!)
The newest generation of phones might just change your mind about this. at least partially for those occasions when you don't have the regular camera with you.
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Old 30.11.2018, 10:41
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Surely an iPhone is better for a non-techie?
Have you never use an Android phone? They just work. No techie knowledge required.

Of course, if you want to do some slightly techie stuff Android isn't going to stop you, and it's possible to tailor the user experience as you may prefer it, but there's absolutely no need to do anything more techie than you would on an iPhone.
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Re: Technophobe needs to get out of Jurassic Era!

Old fart here, too. My first smartphone was a Samsung Galaxy Note (first generation) and I happily used it until it died from decreptitude. I thought that I don't need all that many bells and whistles and went for a cheaper "LG stylus" to replace it (I really like the ones with inbuilt styluses).

But the cheaper ones have their "price". Like the GPS of my "new" phone always seems to lag somewhat, I have to think ahead a bit, when I use it as navi, unless I use it on my bicycle. Or the camera is rather meh, while the camera of the old Samsung was surprisingly good for my needs. Or the screen is a little too dark, when it's mounted on the dashboard in bright sunlight, while the Samsung had no problems there.

So, if my current, relatively cheap phone doesn't survive me, I'll likely go for a phone that's in the upper half of the price range next time, just to be sure that it all works fine enough. I am too old to play around with shortcomings, and I also would not want the shortcomings that Apple brings with it, but that's maybe a matter of personal taste.
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Old 30.11.2018, 11:37
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Re: Technophobe needs to get out of Jurassic Era!

I was in the same position a few years ago and looked around for a cheap simple phone with good sized memory for music and podcasts to replace a nokia-ipod combo.

I bought an Alcatel but was never happy with it. Constantly upgrading and installing apps I didn't want (and it was a pain to stop this) and displaying adverts. I believe this is how they keep them cheap. Fortunately after a year or so I sat on the bloody thing and broke the screen so looked for a replacement.
Ended up with a Moto G5+. It's a bit chunky compared to the Alcatel but I'm very happy with it. Dual SIM, so I can get a pay-as-you-go SIM when I go back to the UK and I've put in a memory chip for my ripped CD collection. Apparently it is running Android 8.1.0 whatever good that does me. Probably like you, I'm not a devoted device user, but it wakes me up weekday mornings with the BBC World Service News, I play my music and podcasts on my walk to work, check the tram times, read the news and make the occasional call and send the odd Whatsapp message. It has GPS, a quite OK camera(s) and a fingerprint reader (this latter is much more useful than I thought it would be) to unlock it. It never gets anywhere near running out of power during the day (maybe due to my light use) - its been unplugged for 4 hours now and it's still at 97%. Does for me.

I see Digitec are doing it for CHF159 (only 16GB storage, but for music you can add up to 128Gb - you just can't use this for apps).



But don't blame me if you buy it and hate it!
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Old 30.11.2018, 11:42
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Have you never use an Android phone? They just work. No techie knowledge required.

Of course, if you want to do some slightly techie stuff Android isn't going to stop you, and it's possible to tailor the user experience as you may prefer it, but there's absolutely no need to do anything more techie than you would on an iPhone.
I've been on iPhone since the first one.. In between I've bought a few samsungs, because I'd often thought the hardware was great but I just never liked the interface, the whole end to end experience.

My wife has had android on and off though, last one being the samsung s7 which was just a complete pain in the ass. It never "just worked" for more than a few days, it would just do stupid things like go to airplane mode when she left the house or mysteriously delete an app or refuse to connect to any bluetooth device.. always something.. even after i factory reset it, still crap. Possible user related, i dunno, unfortunately she couldn't just walk into the android store to get it sorted. So she is now very happily using my old iphone 8.

Of course because everything
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Old 30.11.2018, 13:18
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I've been on iPhone since the first one.. In between I've bought a few samsungs, because I'd often thought the hardware was great but I just never liked the interface, the whole end to end experience.

My wife has had android on and off though, last one being the samsung s7 which was just a complete pain in the ass. It never "just worked" for more than a few days, it would just do stupid things like go to airplane mode when she left the house or mysteriously delete an app or refuse to connect to any bluetooth device.. always something.. even after i factory reset it, still crap. Possible user related, i dunno, unfortunately she couldn't just walk into the android store to get it sorted. So she is now very happily using my old iphone 8.

Of course because everything
I have had 3x S7's and each one has worked perfectly until I lost it. My friend has an iphone 7 that had around 3 total repairs or replacements due to failing battery and/or screen. I would say your issues were 99.9% likely to be user related (I mean really, randomly uninstalling apps? Going to airplane mode only when leaving the house? Doubtful... unless she installed a tool that did those things), and if they weren't, it's a hardly a signifier that Android phones are crap or that you need to be techie to use them.
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Old 30.11.2018, 14:33
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Buy a SIM free Samsung S7... 325chf https://en.toppreise.ch/prod_444060.html
Seconded.
Last year, my OH 'upgraded' both of our phones to Acer dual sims and I'm seriously not impressed (really crappy camera too). He's been told straight that my next phone will be another Samsung. My old one just did everything that I asked of it and more.
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Old 30.11.2018, 15:33
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I have had 3x S7's and each one has worked perfectly until I lost it. My friend has an iphone 7 that had around 3 total repairs or replacements due to failing battery and/or screen. I would say your issues were 99.9% likely to be user related (I mean really, randomly uninstalling apps? Going to airplane mode only when leaving the house? Doubtful... unless she installed a tool that did those things), and if they weren't, it's a hardly a signifier that Android phones are crap or that you need to be techie to use them.
How careless, lost your phone 3 times?
If you'd had an iPhone you could have used "find my phone" of course.

And good that your friends iPhone 7 is still going strong after two years and he's still able to get timely support from the manufacturer. I wonder how these issues would have been resolved had it been a different brand, ship it back to China maybe? Pop in to Mr Minit? DIY?


Now climb off the high horse, some people like apples, some like bananas. Our household has good experience with apple, crap experience with samsung .. Simple as that.
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Old 30.11.2018, 15:37
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How careless, lost your phone 3 times?
If you'd had an iPhone you could have used "find my phone" of course.
You can do that with an Android too... but it doesn't help when the phone is off or the battery is dead. Obviously.

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There is a Samsung service center at Sihl City (Zurich) and most brands have service centers either here or in mainland Europe.

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It's not even about high horse, I am fine if people buy iPhones or Samsungs, it's about seeing people write subjective anecdotes giving the impression that a phone model is generally faulty with little technical understanding that then negatively influences others.

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Not sure whether the OP plans to download new music and/or copy their current music library to their phone.

Either way, make sure you get a phone with enough memory. The iPhone users in my household are always bemoaning the fact that they don't have enough memory.

My recommendation, if you don't want to spend as much as you would on a Samsung is a HUAWEI P20 Lite with 64GB and dual SIM at around 260 CHF.

Not wishing to get in the Android/iPhone debate but whenever I want some data from my wife's iphone (photos etc), it's always a complete bloody pain.

When I wanted to transfer our music collection to my Huawei, I plugged it into my PC and dragged and dropped one file from our network drive. Job done - no cloud, iTunes or swearing was involved.
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I've been on iPhone since the first one.. In between I've bought a few samsungs, because I'd often thought the hardware was great but I just never liked the interface, the whole end to end experience.

My wife has had android on and off though, last one being the samsung s7 which was just a complete pain in the ass. It never "just worked" for more than a few days, it would just do stupid things like go to airplane mode when she left the house or mysteriously delete an app or refuse to connect to any bluetooth device.. always something.. even after i factory reset it, still crap. Possible user related, i dunno, unfortunately she couldn't just walk into the android store to get it sorted. So she is now very happily using my old iphone 8.

Of course because everything
What did your wife do with it? My Samsung never does any mysterious weird stuff. I wish.
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In other words, my friends and family are giving me grief for having a first generation Android phone that can't even take WhatsApp and in any case, it is turned off most of the day!


However, recent family events meant I realised I was really disconnected and I need to show willing (albeit reluctantly). So I need a new phone but I have no idea where to start nor even what to ask, so maybe you can help me choose! Here are my specifics:


- I don't play any game and don't intend to, so no Apps for that.
- Requirement from family: "DAD, get WhatsApp!" (I originally thought it was some kind of Australian greeting!)
- I need to be able to access both my work and home emails.
- I like to listen to podcasts from the BBC and the odd Youtube video
- I am useless at directions here in Switzerland, so some kind of App/GPS would be great.
- Being able to download lots of music would be a seller!
- I've been told that something like 4G (somehow I don't think it's 4 grams) is a must nowadays, "especially Dad when you go on your own yodelling up in the mountains and nobody has any idea where you are!" (I quite like it this way, but never mind, I've given up on being out of touch anyway!)
- No need to have a camera (I will not give up my normal camera, never!) but a good microphone for when I want to record my will and last wishes, there is no misunderstand as to who inherit my old camera! Also must be able to record on the spot spontaneous yodelling!
- Digital screens and I have a lack of mutual trust! Whether PC, laptop or phone, the screens don't seem to respond well to my digital touch and freeze. Why is that? I am giving away bad vibes?
- I am painfully slow at texting and need to be able to do it both in English and French, so easy to set up language texting.
- Anything else you can think of?
Shock your friends and get an iPhone Xs
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Old 30.11.2018, 17:52
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Just get an iPhone XR, you likely won’t need another phone for 10 years
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What did your wife do with it? My Samsung never does any mysterious weird stuff. I wish.
She is a complete technophobe .. from computers to phones to cars and everything else.. Totally uninterested in how or why things work or how to fix them when they break, that's what i do.

We'd be out somewhere for example, she says, WhatsApp doesn't work.. I take a look in settings, cellular is disabled, this happened often. There's no way she deliberately did that, dog knows what happened..

Or when a little floating widget appeared, some infrared controller thing, no fekin idea where it came from, couldn't get rid of it, floated on top of everything. Factory reset.. It came back again after a few weeks. Branded panasonic, same as our TV, were they talking to each other?!

Bluetooth.. it just refused to connect to our Bose speakers, could see them, just timed out trying to connect..

Then for a while it seemed to go to airplane mode when she went out of range of our home wi-fi, maybe it was just trying to save her data.

Really i dunno.. user error, duff phone.. Probably somebody who was interested could have sorted it but for her it was just lots of little issues.
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Re: Technophobe needs to get out of Jurassic Era!

I’ve just had the experience of helping a friend upgrade to a smartphone. Some marking wizz at Sunrise convincered her her life would improve immensely if she would only buy their Nokia Android phone.

I helped her install WhatsApp and connect to her WiFi. So far those are about the only things that are working as they should. And telling her how to protect herself from malware ... run, fleee, stick head into manure pile.

I second the recommendation for a used iPhone 6 or 7. Learning Android is not easy.
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