Buying Camera in the US - Page 2

glinaa · #21 03.02.2019, 16:57

But WHY. It's a frickin 50 CHF difference on a 3700 CHF item, or in other words 1.35%.

Clocker · #22 03.02.2019, 17:15

	Quote:	glinaa
	But WHY. It's a frickin 50 CHF difference on a 3700 CHF item, or in other words 1.35%.

This is the difference between buying it where and where? Personally I'd rather have the 50 francs.

I would still get it in Germany and claim the 19% tax back. You could always wear it around your neck when whipping through the Swiss side to look like a genuine tourist taking snaps. Probably no one on duty anyway.

Jonesy · #23 04.02.2019, 16:57

Volks, how do you get the 20% VAT back when buying in Germany?

I have heard that some people use a virtual adress in the border (grenzpaket.de), and then reciebe a SMS when the packet has arrived, and they have to pay some € to pick it up.

The question is: what document do you need to claim the VAT back? Do you necesarily need to order in the same shop a second time and use the document or document?

Clocker · #24 04.02.2019, 17:34

You need to get the invoice stamped by German customs upon exiting Germany. The address on the invoice should be in the Swiss customs union, so CH or FL. At the border they'll probably want to see your Swiss identity card or foreigner's permit B or C.
You then have to get the invoice either back to the shop or to the seller in Germany to be able to get your VAT refunded. German VAT is currently 19% though, not 20%. The reduced rate (for example on most food) is 7%.

st2lemans · #25 04.02.2019, 17:44

	Quote:	Clocker
	German VAT is currently 19% though, not 20%.

However, you don't get 19% back, you get 16% back.

Tom

Clocker · #26 04.02.2019, 17:46

	Quote:	st2lemans
	However, you don't get 19% back, you get 16% back

No. Try again. I'm sure you know it is a more precise figure than that.

st2lemans · #27 04.02.2019, 17:52

	Quote:	Clocker
	No. Try again. I'm sure you know it is a more precise figure than that.

15.966386554621848739495798319328%

Tom

Clocker · #28 04.02.2019, 17:55

	Quote:	Jonesy
	some people use a virtual adress in the border (grenzpaket.de), and then reciebe a SMS when the packet has arrived, and they have to pay some € to pick it up.

What are you ordering anyway? How much is it? Don't they deliver to CH?

EdwinNL · #29 04.02.2019, 18:58

	Quote:	st2lemans
	However, you don't get 19% back, you get 16% back. Tom

But he did not say you get 19% back, he said you get the 19% VAT back, and that is correct.

(ignoring the 20% mistake)

aSwissInTheUS · #30 04.02.2019, 19:40

	Quote:	Clocker
	I would still get it in Germany and claim the 19% tax back. You could always wear it around your neck when whipping through the Swiss side to look like a genuine tourist taking snaps. Probably no one on duty anyway.

Effing amateur. I would nick it from the warehouse. Print a bogus bill and then pay Swiss Vat to legalize it.

aSwissInTheUS · #31 04.02.2019, 19:49

	Quote:	glinaa
	That Austrian deal though. 3199 EUR minus 20% VAT is 2559 EUR or 2918 CHF.

Are you guys really unable to do basic math?

EUR 3199 minus 20% VAT is EUR 2665.83

Look: GROSSPRICE with VAT is NETPRICE × (1 + VAT/100%)
With 7.7% VAT we get NETPRICE × 1.077

On the other hand it follows that NETPRICE sans VAT must be GROSSPRICE / (1+VAT/100%)
With 7.7% VAT we get GROSSPRICE / 1.077