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Re: Where can I buy a wifi booster/repeater?

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Interesting.

What sort of speeds are we talking about?
I can watch netflix anywhere and I've not noticed a difference.

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I suppose it really does depend on the house wiring, what else is on the circuit (large motors for example) and so on.
I'm sure it does depend on the house wiring. There's just the usual household stuff. Washing machine, drier, oven hob, lighting etc.
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Old 22.04.2020, 04:40
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Re: Where can I buy a wifi booster/repeater?

Re-configure your WiFi router to use 2.4GHz band instead of 5GHz. It's much better at penetrating concrete, works on all 4 floors of my house from a single router on the ground floor. It's supposed to come at the price of lower speed, but we sometimes stream 4 simultaneous movies on 4 devices and it works perfectly.
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Re: Where can I buy a wifi booster/repeater?

We're using the UPC wi fi booster / powerline adapter. It works well
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Re: Where can I buy a wifi booster/repeater?

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Bumping an old thread owing to the emerging telecommuting era and need to extend home wifi ranges across rooms, floors & concrete walls

Curious what experiences people are

I see some good things on both Devolo Magic 2 (Power line based)


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anyone with some hands on experiences?
I've been using the Devolo Magic 2 adaptors for three months - they've worked extremely well for me for both wired connections (for UHD streaming) and WiFi across three floors. That said, the theoretical speed is far greater than the actual speed and performance can take an impact from the layout / age of your electrical circuits. Their mesh network is excellent on the 2.4GHz band (I had issues with 5GHz).
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Re-configure your WiFi router to use 2.4GHz band instead of 5GHz. It's much better at penetrating concrete, works on all 4 floors of my house from a single router on the ground floor. It's supposed to come at the price of lower speed, but we sometimes stream 4 simultaneous movies on 4 devices and it works perfectly.
Wow, that would be really useful. Been trying to get a decent signal in multiple apartments, currently using two wifi repeaters, but it just isn't reliable enough yet. Will give that a go once we can get back down there.
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Re: Where can I buy a wifi booster/repeater?

I've always used TP-Link, both extenders and wi-fi not only in our home here but also in S. Africa and in 2 of the flats we rent out. The extenders work in our cellar, 6 floors down, and elsewhere, and the wi-fi ones work perfectly where we put those. I think they were bought from both Digitec and Steg.
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Old 24.04.2020, 15:27
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Re: Where can I buy a wifi booster/repeater?

I tried Devolo twice previously in 2 different appartments and the results were terrible: one was slower than a 28.8k modem.

I tried again now in a standalone house with relatively new wiring and managed to get ~90 Mbps - OK for basic surfing, but I plan to run Cat6 to have a faster connection.

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Old 24.04.2020, 16:54
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Re: Where can I buy a wifi booster/repeater?

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Re-configure your WiFi router to use 2.4GHz band instead of 5GHz. It's much better at penetrating concrete, works on all 4 floors of my house from a single router on the ground floor. It's supposed to come at the price of lower speed, but we sometimes stream 4 simultaneous movies on 4 devices and it works perfectly.
You do appreciate that's only basically one-way communication which isn't really a good test for a system?

Video conferencing, uploading large chunks of data, online gaming, streaming UHD TV and various other tasks all at the same time (I have about forty devices connected to mine) would be a better test.


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Wow, that would be really useful. Been trying to get a decent signal in multiple apartments, currently using two wifi repeaters, but it just isn't reliable enough yet. Will give that a go once we can get back down there.
Repeaters really are a big compromise.

Wifi is basically half-duplex but with a repeater/extender, you've halved it again.
And that's with one device.

(Data from router to repeater, or data from repeater to device or data from device to repeater or data from repeater to router)

Imagine a complex of apartments with people trying to Skype call, stream video, check videos, upload photos and online game?
Personally it's a real pain staying in airBnB or Ski apartments with internet access from a decade ago.

At the very least, you can you ought to get commercial quality wifi APs and run ethernet to these from your modem/router.

Digitec often sell Unifi UAP-AC-LR APs (these are excellent but there are later odels) discounted in packets of three.
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Old 24.04.2020, 18:00
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Re: Where can I buy a wifi booster/repeater?

We had Devolo before but as mentioned in an other thread that there can be two issues in terms of performance.

The first is moving the signal from one circuit to another within the house or apt. Sometimes it works and sometimes it does not. The older the system the better it seems to be. The only way to find out is to test it.

The second issue is the use of the new generation of FILS breakers. They are supposedly the best for security but they dramatically suppress the signal between the circuits. After spending hours of testing this with an electrician/controller I can confirm that this is an issue. Here is an example of this new generation breaker : https://www.hornbach.ch/shop/Hager-L...4/artikel.html

To overcome all of this we changed to a Wi-Fi extender (Netgear EX7300) that we installed in the shelter. It just plugs into a wall socket. It has no problem with streaming Netflix and Amazon Prime through a lot of reinforced concrete. Sold on toppreise for CHF 86.-
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Old 24.04.2020, 18:23
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You do appreciate that's only basically one-way communication which isn't really a good test for a system?

Video conferencing, uploading large chunks of data, online gaming, streaming UHD TV and various other tasks all at the same time (I have about forty devices connected to mine) would be a better test.




Repeaters really are a big compromise.

Wifi is basically half-duplex but with a repeater/extender, you've halved it again.
And that's with one device.

(Data from router to repeater, or data from repeater to device or data from device to repeater or data from repeater to router)

Imagine a complex of apartments with people trying to Skype call, stream video, check videos, upload photos and online game?
Personally it's a real pain staying in airBnB or Ski apartments with internet access from a decade ago.

At the very least, you can you ought to get commercial quality wifi APs and run ethernet to these from your modem/router.

Digitec often sell Unifi UAP-AC-LR APs (these are excellent but there are later odels) discounted in packets of three.
Errr.. right. 40 connected devices, gaming, UHD video.... sounds like you need to get out more.
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Old 24.04.2020, 20:11
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Errr.. right. 40 connected devices, gaming, UHD video....
Ace1 was asking what to use in multiple apartments.

I was answering that.

40 devices isn't that many. Obviously they are not communicating all at the same time and some are only sending data one way.


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... sounds like you need to get out more.
I'll take that as a compliment.
Most people who know me think I'm a bit of a luddite.
We only bought our first ever TV only last year and my smart phone is five years old.
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Old 25.04.2020, 12:54
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Re: Where can I buy a wifi booster/repeater?

And some good news on the Wi-Fi front. Wi-fi 6E (6 Ghz range) will be rolled out over the next few years starting in the USA.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...-decision.html
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Errr.. right. 40 connected devices, gaming, UHD video.... sounds like you need to get out more.
Hmm - just counted mine: 30 devices in active use (at least once per week) - but this is house of 2 adults 2 pre-teen boys: so 6x computers, 4x phones, 5x tablets, 3x gaming and 3x set-top boxes etc. Funnily enough the TV isn't one of them, being an older Plasma it's on the dumb side ;-)
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We had Devolo before but as mentioned in an other thread that there can be two issues in terms of performance.

The first is moving the signal from one circuit to another within the house or apt. Sometimes it works and sometimes it does not. The older the system the better it seems to be. The only way to find out is to test it.

The second issue is the use of the new generation of FILS breakers. They are supposedly the best for security but they dramatically suppress the signal between the circuits. After spending hours of testing this with an electrician/controller I can confirm that this is an issue.
I concur. I had massive problems with both wifi and powerline in a new house.

The wifi problems were due to the design and shape of the major load-bearing walls.

Wifi wouldn't work four metres between rooms. It was a bit of an extreme case but it was easy to understand why.

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Hmm - just counted mine: 30 devices in active use (at least once per week) - but this is house of 2 adults 2 pre-teen boys: so 6x computers, 4x phones, 5x tablets, 3x gaming and 3x set-top boxes etc. Funnily enough the TV isn't one of them, being an older Plasma it's on the dumb side ;-)
It doesn't take long for the count to rise.

We've got things like reptile cages reporting temperature/humidity and turning lamps and heaters on and off.
I've got wall panels too, smart speakers and various homemade devices to control sun blinds etc.

Using wireshark, it's amazing how much 'unseen' traffic there is -admittedly most of it isn't high bandwidth.

And that's not the end of it - where I can, I've avoided wifi and use ethernet, other direct wiring or other wireless protocols.
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Old 26.04.2020, 21:49
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And some good news on the Wi-Fi front. Wi-fi 6E (6 Ghz range) will be rolled out over the next few years starting in the USA.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...-decision.html
The higher the frequency the shorter the range and ability to penetrate walls, so for the purpose of this thread that doesn't help.
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The higher the frequency the shorter the range and ability to penetrate walls, so for the purpose of this thread that doesn't help.
Was just for general information as the throughput is greatly increased while the lag is decreased. It would help for the case of the 40 devices that were mentioned. But if you have all concrete reinforced walls it will probably not be a improvement for you and will probably be even worse than 2,4G. Not everyone will benefit from the potential improvement.
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The powerline stuff won't work between floors as the wiring will be on different circuits.

Although you didn't mention them, the UBIQUITI Unifi AP-AC access points are brilliant.


The only problem we had was with some online gaming where there was some periodic packet loss with these which I never got to the bottom of. We got around that by using a Netgear powerline solution between three rooms and only with ethernet and not the wifi itself.
As an update, the Ubiquiti access points have been superb (90% retention of speed) - definitely recommend
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Re: Where can I buy a wifi booster/repeater?

another option is a wifi mesh system. check digitec etc
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Re: Where can I buy a wifi booster/repeater?

Buy online at Digitech, Microspot, MediaMarkt or Interdiscount. I use a UPC power line adapter and it works well.
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another option is a wifi mesh system. check digitec etc
I had very bad experience with wifi mesh, specifically google nest. The throughput drops immensely (although unsurprisingly as a wifi mesh is just a bund of repeaters). Best is to get ethernet at last onto each floor and use a good wired AP, like Ubiquiti Unifi APs
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