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Streaming Audio files from NAS

Hello All,

I'm hoping that someone here will be able to help me with a solution. I am currently ripping my entire CD collection to an Iomega 500GB NAS using DBPoweramp and saving everything in FLAC format. I am currently using my laptop to serve up the files (to itself) and audio output using Logitech Z5500 speakers but I would like to be able to playback audio without having to get the laptop out everytime. I was thinking of buying a Squeezebox Duet to handle this but I'm not sure if the Iomega is "clever" enough to handle file serving or even if it will accomodate Slimserver for Squeezebox. An alternative would be to build a mediacentre PC to sit on the bookshelf and take care of serving up the audio.

Does anyone use Squeezebox and if yes what NAS system are you using? I think my Iomega might turn out to be a bit of a pig in a poke and I probably should have saved my pennies for Easynas or something similar. Iomega's website is singularly useless as well.

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(Translations for non-teckie speakers: NAS = Network Attached Storage, FLAC = Free Lossless Audio Codec)
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Old 24.07.2008, 13:30
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Re: Streaming Audio files from NAS

can you hack a slimserver or other PnP-compliant software on to the NAS? Does it have an iTunes server built in?
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Old 24.07.2008, 13:34
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can you hack a slimserver or other PnP-compliant software on to the NAS? Does it have an iTunes server built in?
I doubt it, I had a hard time getting the NAS to talk to me at all - it involved spending flippin' ages trying to get my router to talk to me as I had to reset it and then re-configure it - sounds easy but it wasn't.

I'm not very techie myself but usually manage to get stuff to work, how would I start hacking into the drive? (Sorry if that's a dumb question)

Oh and no, it doesn't have a iTunes server built in.

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Re: Streaming Audio files from NAS

sounds like it does not have open source firmware.
wrong product for your solution, possibly. You'd need to find an audio device which can read SMB shares - I don't know if this exists.
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sounds like it does not have open source firmware.
wrong product for your solution, possibly. You'd need to find an audio device which can read SMB shares - I don't know if this exists.

I think you're right, a search on Google turned up an interesting NAS hack wiki site which I'm wading through right now.
Thanks for your help
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Re: Streaming Audio files from NAS

Find an old PC and stick a few 750gb hdd's in it, install ubuntu server + webmin and you are away. You could probably do this for less than 500chf and once webmin is installed you won't have to do anything from the command line if you don't want to.
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Re: Streaming Audio files from NAS

There are people running Slimserver on NAS devices.

I'd hop over to the Slim Devices forums to find out which ones are most suited.
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There are people running Slimserver on NAS devices.

I'd hop over to the Slim Devices forums to find out which ones are most suited.
Yeah I know and that's what I'd like to do otherwise I'll probably opt for Peachy's solution and cobble together a media machine from an old PC.

Looks like Google will be getting used a lot this evening :-)
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Re: Streaming Audio files from NAS

the handy thing about having a pc serving is you can use it for video media too.... and for software archiving..... and for downloading.

Would be quite cool to have a little NAS running Slimserver though.
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Old 24.07.2008, 13:51
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Re: Streaming Audio files from NAS

I'll let you know if my NAS will accept Slimserver...would be nice. As for other media, well maybe the mediacentre PC isn't a bad idea either, there's some very nice cases around, especially from Silverstone.
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Re: Streaming Audio files from NAS

I bought one of these cases from Digitec.

http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=81800

It is an excellent case, very heavy, and has three big fans pre-fitted. I bought it when I was worried about noise in the office, but since then I've decided just to stick it in the storage room anyway.

Oh well.
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Re: Streaming Audio files from NAS

That Antec case is quite nice but it's larger than I was thinking about, I'd prefer to build something small form factor - I'm allready in trouble over the Z5500's taking up a bit of living room space, the sub woofer is humungous
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Re: Streaming Audio files from NAS

I you are building a NAS use a case like the Coolermaster Stacker that will accept loads of disks, this way you just keep adding disks as you need more space.

As pointed out this machine can be tucked away and handle downloads, backups and everything freeing up your laptop/desktop.
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Old 24.07.2008, 14:20
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I you are building a NAS use a case like the Coolermaster Stacker that will accept loads of disks, this way you just keep adding disks as you need more space.

As pointed out this machine can be tucked away and handle downloads, backups and everything freeing up your laptop/desktop.
That's a good tip, I was forgetting that as it's network attached I can stick it anywhere - the "network" system I'm using is the Devolo plug system meaning I have the net everywhere I have a power socket. NAS can be banished to the cellar.
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Re: Streaming Audio files from NAS

yup - no need even for a screen or any other peripherals - just use remote desktop or VNC or something else, to remote control it from another machine.
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That's a good tip, I was forgetting that as it's network attached I can stick it anywhere - the "network" system I'm using is the Devolo plug system meaning I have the net everywhere I have a power socket. NAS can be banished to the cellar.
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The other tip is to buy a motherboard with 6 or 8 (if you can find it) SATA ports.

Linux software raid is really good, you'll be able to setup a monster raid 5 array and whack a logical volume on top of it allowing you to just grow the volume as you add disks.
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yup - no need even for a screen or any other peripherals - just use remote desktop or VNC or something else, to remote control it from another machine.
No need to have a desktop env running on it, check out webmin
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Re: Streaming Audio files from NAS

I have one of these. I will be getting a second one and dropping in 2 x 750Gb SATA drives with software RAID on either Windows or Linux (I have one dependency to resolve).

The Intel Atom is very low draw and the PC is quiet. I was looking at NSLU2 as an option but did not have enough sockets for the plugs I'd need.

My dependency is a KiSS DP-1500 which is not PnP media-server compatible. Mind you, I've just resolved my dependency in my head and will be going into the peachy direction (Greg too recommends webmin).

Can you take the Iomega back?
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I have one of these. I will be getting a second one and dropping in 2 x 750Gb SATA drives with software RAID on either Windows or Linux (I have one dependency to resolve).

The Intel Atom is very low draw and the PC is quiet. I was looking at NSLU2 as an option but did not have enough sockets for the plugs I'd need.

My dependency is a KiSS DP-1500 which is not PnP media-server compatible. Mind you, I've just resolved my dependency in my head and will be going into the peachy direction (Greg too recommends webmin).

Can you take the Iomega back?
Webmin runs fine on this little box that Lob has. Not that I'm biased or anything, but you'll want to run Debian on it. The fan on the GPU(!) is a bit loud on mine, but I suppose there really isn't any reason to actually have it running....
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Can you take the Iomega back?
Nope, I threw the boxes away and I've already stuck quite a bit onto it. That doesn't matter though, I can find a use for it somehow. The Atom looks nice, low draw is good too. There's plenty of options and it's payday today so perhaps some shopping is on the cards later on :-)
I want to get the Squeezebox first though....
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