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gabrielg 27.01.2020 19:17

SIM card (or virtual phone number) from abroad
 
My girlfriend wants to start applying for jobs before our upcoming move to Zürich. She would like to have a Swiss phone number to make things as frictionless as possible for the recruiters. What would be the best way to do this?

I've looked into Skype numbers, but they require proof of residency. I suppose most providers like Swisscom would also require this. There are some websites that offer to redirect a Swiss phone number to another number or to an app, but we have no experience with them. I guess I could ask a friend there to pick up a prepaid SIM and ship it to us?

Suggestions very welcome :)

Island Monkey 27.01.2020 19:28

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Best to get a pre-paid sim. But you need ID, so you'd have to find a friend willing to do it for you, or make a trip to Switzerland. Not sure if any providers would be willing to do it online, with a photo of ID and send it to you?

ZuriRollt 27.01.2020 19:32

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Originally Posted by gabrielg (Post 3141499)
My girlfriend wants to start applying for jobs before our upcoming move to Zürich. She would like to have a Swiss phone number to make things as frictionless as possible for the recruiters. What would be the best way to do this?

I've looked into Skype numbers, but they require proof of residency. I suppose most providers like Swisscom would also require this. There are some websites that offer to redirect a Swiss phone number to another number or to an app, but we have no experience with them. I guess I could ask a friend there to pick up a prepaid SIM and ship it to us?

Suggestions very welcome :)

Swiss employers generally don‘t like to be lied to, and hiding identity even less. If they are interested in your girlfriend then they will call on her standard number.
If you are already located in Zurich since 2011 (your profile), then it would be easy to find a solution e.g. routing calls

venetian 27.01.2020 19:45

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My girlfriend has been in the same situation while I was already in Zurich. She provided her foreign number/address in the CV, but sometimes she also gave the companies my contacts (with my name and explanation, nothing hidden) with the idea that she could demonstrate some local "presence", e.g. the ability to be in town on a short notice without having to ask for travel reimboursement.

gabrielg 27.01.2020 19:47

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I'm not currently in Zürich, unfortunately, so these solutions wouldn't work. I've moved out of Zürich, and now I'm coming back! I'll update my profile.

gabrielg 27.01.2020 19:54

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Originally Posted by ZuriRollt (Post 3141509)
Swiss employers generally don‘t like to be lied to, and hiding identity even less.

She's not going to lie about her location, and she's absolutely not going to hide her identity, so I struggle to see how any of this applies to us :p We just want to make things easier for her prospective employer, to avoid having to switch numbers in the middle of an interview process when we do move there in about a month, and so on.

ZuriRollt 27.01.2020 20:02

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Originally Posted by gabrielg (Post 3141526)
She's not going to lie about her location, and she's absolutely not going to hide her identity, so I struggle to see how any of this applies to us :p We just want to make things easier for her prospective employer, to avoid having to switch numbers in the middle of an interview process when we do move there in about a month, and so on.

Then why the need for a fake no. in Switzerland?
If you think that you / she can get a job here based on such info here in Switzerland then I‘m really doing you a favour.

Guest 27.01.2020 20:59

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Originally Posted by gabrielg (Post 3141526)
She's not going to lie about her location, and she's absolutely not going to hide her identity, so I struggle to see how any of this applies to us :p We just want to make things easier for her prospective employer, to avoid having to switch numbers in the middle of an interview process when we do move there in about a month, and so on.




Is it really that difficult and any case if they want her, they'll find her by email or whatever.


Does anybody care about international calls these days in Europe they are all included in the various packages anyway.

gabrielg 27.01.2020 21:51

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Originally Posted by ZuriRollt (Post 3141529)
If you think that you / she can get a job here based on such info here in Switzerland then I‘m really doing you a favour.

Thank you, I've forwarded the information to her. Personally, I agree that having a local number won't make much of a difference, I'm just helping her with researching her options.


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Originally Posted by ZuriRollt (Post 3141529)
Then why the need for a fake no. in Switzerland?

Not sure why you insist of using words like "fake" or "lie". As for the "why", I've already explained it twice in my comments above.

venetian 28.01.2020 11:14

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Originally Posted by gabrielg (Post 3141570)
Not sure why you insist of using words like "fake" or "lie".

I am not sure I agree with those terms, but giving people a swiss number kind of implies that you have a local presence. People might think, hey, to get this number she must have provided a local address, she's already around doing something. But she's not. Might even be counterproductive.

At least, this logic is what we had in mind when we provided both contact references in our case.
In the end it didn't really make a difference, nobody called me on my swiss number. On the other side, I got calls from UK and DE on that number, from foreign companies :D

Axa 28.01.2020 11:21

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Remembering the last time I was looking for a job.....I got an email requesting me to show up for an interview in the office. I called back, said I was on the other side of the Atlantic and will return 3 weeks later to CH. Then we agreed to a date for interview. It's totally OK to not be in Switzerland while applying for a job in Switzerland and setting up an appointment months in advance. I'd guess this is the normal way for foreigners.

These days people also uses whatsapp and Skype. There's no friction in calling someone on the other side of the world via whatsapp. There was another thread a few weeks ago about a guy worried that all the interview process was via Skype.

But, there might be a downside of providing a Swiss number while not living here. The recruiter may get the first impression that you already live here and have a residence permit. This would misdirect them into thinking she's easy to hire compared to people without residence permits. If people later finds out this is not case, it will look as deceitful.


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