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Experience with HEOS, Musiccast, BluOS

Hello


I'm looking to buy new network player, but in forums/videos, I cannot find good description of apps which control music streaming.
My interests:
- play own music (CDs converted to FLAC) from NAS
- Spotify (and possibly Amazon Music HD when it come to CH)
- Internet Radio (TuneIn)
No interest:
- muti-room playing music
- Sonos


So, I have heard good and bad points about each app, but I'm wondering if someone has experience, especially with Bluesound and HEOS.
All thoughts, recommendations are wellcome


Looking forward to some answers :-)
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Old 30.04.2020, 08:31
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Hello


I'm looking to buy new network player, but in forums/videos, I cannot find good description of apps which control music streaming.
My interests:
- play own music (CDs converted to FLAC) from NAS
- Spotify (and possibly Amazon Music HD when it come to CH)
- Internet Radio (TuneIn)
No interest:
- muti-room playing music
- Sonos


So, I have heard good and bad points about each app, but I'm wondering if someone has experience, especially with Bluesound and HEOS.
All thoughts, recommendations are wellcome


Looking forward to some answers :-)
Short story: get a cheap Raspberry pi 4 (CHF 40) with a Hifiberry Digi+ (CHF 40). Install Volumio (free) and then link it to your NAS, Spotify, radio stations...whatever. Connect it to your DAC, amp and speakers and you're in for a treat.
Long story: I was in the same boat like you a while ago. Auditioned the old BlueSound node, never liked the sound, it's, exaggerating to get the message across, like coming from a tin box. Thin, lacking soundstage. HEOS has an entirely different problem: it's for AVRs, not for proper hi fi. If you've tested how an AVR plays music vs. a proper two channel amp on the same system you'll know the difference immediately. I've now settled on the Raspberry feeding my RME ADI 2 DAC, which is nothing short of an exceptional DAC beating hands down the Chord and then to my amp.
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Re: Experience with HEOS, Musiccast, BluOS

Thanks Graburko
I have no experience with Rapsberry Pi. I will check it out. It make sense, what you said
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Re: Experience with HEOS, Musiccast, BluOS

I tested bluesound, not impressed.

Right now Google chromecast audio into my Audiolab DAC is way better. Plays music from my NAS or whatever online service.

I'm due an upgrade because it's been about 5 years I think and now there are many streamers with DAC on board. But I haven't found anything below Fr.1000 that sounds like a decent upgrade to my chromecast and Audiolab. I'll wait a bit more until I can up my budget.
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Old 30.04.2020, 23:56
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I tested bluesound, not impressed.

Right now Google chromecast audio into my Audiolab DAC is way better. Plays music from my NAS or whatever online service.

I'm due an upgrade because it's been about 5 years I think and now there are many streamers with DAC on board. But I haven't found anything below Fr.1000 that sounds like a decent upgrade to my chromecast and Audiolab. I'll wait a bit more until I can up my budget.
I had the now discontinued chromecast audio even before they fixed the 44.1 kHz. The problem with it is that its fixed to 44.1 and not very user friendly. For a sub 100 chf why don't you add a raspberry pi feeding your audiolab? I think you'll appreciate the DAC even more and won't be looking for an uprade
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I had the now discontinued chromecast audio even before they fixed the 44.1 kHz. The problem with it is that its fixed to 44.1 and not very user friendly. For a sub 100 chf why don't you add a raspberry pi feeding your audiolab? I think you'll appreciate the DAC even more and won't be looking for an uprade
Was looking at Raspberry some years ago and decided that the Chromecast audio was so easy.

So now that you got me looking at that again... is there a need for the hifiberry seeing as my DAC does have a USB Input?
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Was looking at Raspberry some years ago and decided that the Chromecast audio was so easy.

So now that you got me looking at that again... is there a need for the hifiberry seeing as my DAC does have a USB Input?
To be honest, I don't know if there's a difference. Maybe give it a try without and then try with it, it's a relatively cheap upgrade so i didn't really test it without
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Re: Experience with HEOS, Musiccast, BluOS

I have a HEOS system, but that is more due to wanting multi-room streaming more than anything else, which you don't want - we have a Denon AVR in the living room and a HEOS speaker in the kitchen. We have an Amazon Prime Music HD account

The sound quality is good (although I can't compare to other rival systems) and it's great to have the same music playing in various rooms, particularly when we have friends over (in happier times!) and are frequently moving between kitchen and living room. Being able to control it vocally via Alexa is great as well.

The app could be better though - it has decent links to many different services but, at least as far as Amazon goes, it is easier to use the Amazon app and cast it rather than the HEOS one to select music anyway - sound control and linking the speakers needs to be done via the app.
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Re: Experience with HEOS, Musiccast, BluOS

Just reporting back on Raspberry Pi / Hifiberry.

So I had a bit of fun building my own streamer. Got a starter set Raspberry Pi 4, seems the USB output would not recognize my Audiolab, so I added the Hifiberry Digi Standard. Really cool to put it all together and switching it on and the connection works.

But then I started using it with Volumio and I've been tearing my hair out. It is extremely slow and buggy. With DS Audio (my NAS' music software) and spotify on Chromeaudio, reaction time is instantaneous. With Volumio it is just unusable. Seems other people have the same problem and there is no solution. I've gone back to my chromeaudio for now even though the sound quality is slightly (and only sometimes) not as good. When I have more time, I will try some other streaming software.
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But then I started using it with Volumio and I've been tearing my hair out. It is extremely slow and buggy.
Hm, that's interesting as I have the same setup, but for me it works flawless. Did you update to the latest Volumio? Did you play with the settings? A stupid question: sometimes it just requires a restart of the volumio with the DAC connected to start recognizing and updating everything properly.
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